live together those your words what does it mean it means that I and those

gentlemen in the dock believe that South Africa is a plural society with

contributions to be made by all segments of the community mm-hmm are you familiar

with the language and some of these documents the accused of discussed with

black groups yes in some of those documents were drawn out by me the one

noting with concern and disgust the naked terrorism of the government that

is correct you say naked terrorism do you honestly think that is a valid

statement well I think it is a far more valid statement than the charges against

these men here

really yes really I'm not talking about weds

I'm talking about the violence in which people are better uncharged by police

beat now I'm talking about police firing on unarmed people I'm talking about the

indirect violence you get through starvation in the townships I am talking

about the hopelessness the desolation of the transit camps now I think that all

put together that constitutes more terrorism then the words these men have

spoken here but they stand charged and white society is not charged when you

and others in black consciousness speak you say true leaders have been banned

and imprisoned on Robben Island who you referring to specifically are

specifically we refer to people like Mandela it's a book way these people

like Coburn and Becky and is it not true that the common factor with these people

is that they have advocated violence against the South African government the

common factor with these people is that they have selflessly pushed forward the

struggle of the black men so your answer to this so-called

naked terrorism is to provoke violence in the black community now our movement

seeks to avoid violence but your own words call for direct confrontation

that's right we demand confrontation isn't that a

demand for violence well you and I are now in confrontation

but I see no violence

but nowhere in these documents do you say that the white government is doing

anything good well it does so little good my lord that it is not worth

commenting on but surely that approach in flames racial hatred and anti white

ism my lord blacks are not unaware of the hardships they endure or what the

government is doing to them we want them to stop accepting these hardships to

confront them people must not just give in to the hardships of life they must

find a way even in this environment to to develop hope hope for themselves or

for this country now I think that is what black consciousness is all about

not without any reference to the white man to try and build up a sense of our

own humanity our legitimate place in the world

but why do you use a phrase like black is beautiful because black is commonly

associated with negatives the black markets the black sheep of the family

anything which is supposed to be bad then why do you use the word why call

yourselves black I mean you people are more Brown than black why do you call

yourselves white you people are more pink than white

precisely