And then let's just go macro.

然後我們就去宏觀。

Because as crazy as it is to say, I mean, honestly, talking about Duke is more interesting than talking about the 68 teams that are actually going to make this tournament and have a chance to cut down the Nets in Indianapolis.

因為雖然說起來很瘋狂，但我的意思是，說實話，談論杜克大學比談論68支真正要參加這次比賽並有機會在印第安納波利斯砍下籃網隊的球隊更有趣。

That's just the way the Duke is a couple of points here on Duke.

這就是公爵在公爵這裡的幾個點。

And then let's get to a real issue that a lot of conferences and teams are struggling with.

然後讓我們來談談一個真正的問題，很多會議和球隊都在努力。

Ethically, I know we're talking about college sports guys getting paid.

從道德上講，我知道我們說的是大學體育生的工資。

What does ethically have to do with it?

倫理上有什麼關係？

Give me one minute here.

給我一分鐘

Here's the thing with Duke J.

杜克J的事情是這樣的。

You know this, and this is to accentuate the greatness of Coach K.

你知道的，這是為了凸顯K教練的偉大。

People are wondering what's going on.

人們都想知道是怎麼回事。

Last couple recruiting classes haven't been up to snuff.

最近幾屆招收的學生都沒有達到要求。

I will mention they're coming off of RJ, Cam and Zion, so I don't know how you can go higher than that.

我想說的是，他們從RJ、Cam和Zion身上下來，所以我不知道你怎麼能比這更高。

But a couple of things I wanted to just mention everybody's saying do is going to miss the tournament for the first time since 1995 and that actually is true.

但有幾件事我想提一下大家都在說做要缺席1995年以來的第一次比賽，其實這是真的。

Um, but J.

嗯，但J。

You know this in 1995 Coach K stepped away to have back surgery.

要知道1995年的時候K教練走了，做了腰部手術。

People don't remember.

人們不記得了。

This is 25 years ago.

這是25年前的事了。

Coach K stepped away to have back surgery, and when he left, there were nine and three.

K教練走了，要做腰部手術，他走的時候，有九個人，有三個人。

He was replaced for the season by a guy named Pete.

本賽季他被一個叫皮特的人取代。

God.

上帝啊

It was a very elderly guy.

那是一個很老的人。

He was on the staff, one of the lower level assistance.

他是工作人員，是下級協助之一。

Duke missed the tournament.

杜克大學錯過了比賽。

He coached about 17 games.

他執教了大約17場比賽。

They went four and 13.

他們去了4和13。

They finished under 500.

他們的成績在500分以下。

People don't remember this.

人們不記得這個。

This was a quarter century ago.

這是四分之一世紀前的事了。

So I'm not laying this on Mr God.

所以，我並沒有把這一切推給上帝先生。

It by no means.

它絕不。

But the last time Duke missed the N.

但上次杜克錯過了N。

C.

C.

A.

A.

A tournament where Kay was there the whole way, 82 83.

一場比賽，凱全程在場，82 83。

Just let that marinate in your mind for a second.

就讓這句話在心裡醃製一下吧。

Yes, they missed it in 95.

是的，他們在95年錯過了。

And yes, it's on Coach K's record because you coached the 1st 12 games.

是的，這是在K教練的記錄上，因為你執教了前12場比賽。

But when he had the back surgery the rest of the season, the majority of the season was coached by somebody else.

但當他在剩下的賽季裡做了腰部手術後，大部分時間都是別人在執教。

The last fully coached Mike Wazowski team to miss the N.

最後一支完全由邁克-華斯基執教的球隊錯過了N。

C.

C.

a A tournament.

a甲級聯賽。

1982 83 95 is impressive.

1982年83年95年令人印象深刻。

Don't get me wrong.

別誤會我的意思

95 is super impressive.

95元是超級厲害的。

82 83 is something else.

82 83是別的東西。

The last thing I would say do.

我想說的最後一件事就是做。

Getting in.

進入。

What's the deal?

什麼是交易？

You know what I would say?

你知道我會說什麼嗎？

What is key?

什麼是關鍵？

It's the Cowboy sneaking in at nine and seven in the playoffs, right?

是牛仔在季後賽中以9分和7分的成績偷偷摸摸的吧？

They're not gonna win, but it's still the Cowboys, and we're still gonna watch.

他們不會贏，但還是牛仔隊，我們還是要看的。

And it's still going to be super highly rated Dukes the same thing.

而且還是會有超高評價的公爵同樣的事情。

Maybe it's a one and done, but you never know Jake.

也許這是一個一勞永逸，但你永遠不知道傑克。

Two words.

兩個字：

Rasheed Sulaimon, right?

拉希德-蘇萊蒙，對吧？

They lost them.

他們失去了他們。

What happened to write?

寫什麼了？

You always want to, Brandon, but But I just I think that's also part of the reason where, even though they may be 13 and 11, how good are they?

你總是想，布蘭登，但我只是我認為這也是部分原因，即使他們可能是13和11，他們有多好？

It's still Duke.

還是杜克。

It's still going to be absolutely Jim Nance and Bill Raftery, CBS in the best slot because it's Duke, and that's why them not being in the tournament is hurtful.

在最好的檔期裡，還是要絕對吉姆-南斯和比爾-拉夫特里，CBS因為是杜克大學，所以他們沒能參加比賽是很受傷的。

No, it it is, and Jay knows this from a recruiting standpoint.

不，是這樣的，從招聘的角度來看，傑伊也知道這一點。

No matter when they coaches coming to Jim, you can have all them little logos on every shirt when they see that Duke Blue Devil.

不管他們教練什麼時候來吉姆，當他們看到那個杜克藍魔的時候，你可以在每件衣服上都有他們所有的小標識。

For whatever reason, people eyeballs pop out.

不管什麼原因，人的眼球都會跳出來。

I don't want to grant Hill out of that.

我不想讓希爾出這個問題。

Sorry, Grant Hill, also one of the greatest Dukies of all time, Of course.

對不起，格蘭特-希爾，也是史上最偉大的公爵之一，當然。

So here's the bigger issue, and I want to get J your thought on this because I mean, you guys are punching your ticket to the tournament, and obviously your only goal was to win it every year.

所以，這裡有一個更大的問題，我想聽聽J你的想法，因為我的意思是，你們是衝著比賽的門票來的，很明顯，你們唯一的目標就是每年都要贏得比賽。

Seth Greenberg, your old partner.

塞斯-格林伯格，你的老搭檔

ESPN's college GameDay was on yesterday during the Big 12 tournament when all of this was broached.

昨天在12強賽期間，ESPN的大學GameDay節目中就談到了這一切。

The Duke positive test comes out there out, and Seth broach something, he said.

杜克陽性測試出來有出，賽斯 broach something，他說。

If you're a team like Gonzaga or Baylor, this is hypothetically because Gonzaga's tournament has ended.

如果你是像Gonzaga或貝勒這樣的球隊，這是假設性的，因為Gonzaga的比賽已經結束。

But if you're a team that you know no matter what, you're going to the N c.

但如果你是一支無論如何都知道要去N c的球隊。

A.

A.

A tournament with a chance to win it all, why in the world would you risk your N C A A tournament chances by playing in a conference tournament?

一個有機會贏得一切的比賽，你到底為什麼要冒著N C A A比賽的風險去打一個聯賽？

That really probably means nothing for you.

這對你來說可能真的毫無意義。

The virus controls us.

病毒控制了我們。

We don't control the virus.

我們不能控制病毒。

The virus is undefeated, but Now we've got to look forward because you've got to understand how Louisville, who's a bubble team, will probably an N C double A tournament team.

病毒是不敗的，但現在我們要向前看，因為你要明白，作為保麗龍球隊的路易斯維爾，很可能會是一支N C雙A賽事球隊。

They have a contact trace.

他們有聯繫的痕跡。

They have to have seven days of negative test to get into the N C double A bubble.

他們必須有7天的陰性測試才能進入N C雙A泡。

So here's my question for your fans.

所以我的問題是問你們的粉絲。

If you're Baylor, if you're Michigan, if you're a team that you know we're going to compete for a national championship, you're about to travel to your conference tournament.

如果你是貝勒，如果你是密歇根，如果你是一支你知道我們要爭奪全國冠軍的球隊，你就要去參加你的聯賽了。

Do you play because you're putting your team at risk?

你打球是因為你讓你的球隊處於危險之中嗎？

If winning a national championship is your goal, All right, Are you willing to put your team at risk?

如果贏得全國冠軍是你的目標，好吧，你願意讓你的球隊冒險嗎？

Something that's out of your control?

一些你無法控制的事情？

It's a fair question.

這是一個公平的問題。

J.

J.

It really is.

真的是這樣。

I have no problem with teams.

我對團隊沒有問題。

Want to opt out?

想退出嗎？

You wouldn't hear me up here on our platform complaining about it.

你不會聽到我在我們的平臺上抱怨的。

They're making the best decision.

他們在做最好的決定。

What's in their interests to win the long game.

什麼是符合他們的利益，才能贏得長遠的遊戲。

But at the same time, I'm sure a lot of coaches and players think this way to these conference tournaments are tune ups to get you ready for the N C double A tournament, so to go through some of those battles.

但同時，我相信很多教練和選手都是這樣想的，到這些大會的比賽都是為了讓你為N C雙A的比賽做準備而做的調整，所以要經歷一些這樣的戰鬥。

Those in game experiences help you when you get to March Madness.

當你到了瘋狂三月的時候，那些遊戲中的經驗會幫助你。

But if you want to take two weeks off and get ready for March Madness, you won't hear me complain about it.

但如果你想休兩週假，準備迎接 "瘋狂三月"，你不會聽到我的抱怨。

Whatever strategy helps you get to your goal, which is winning a national championship so you don't have contact.

無論什麼策略都能幫助你達到你的目標，也就是贏得全國冠軍，所以你沒有接觸。

Tracing issues like Louisville potentially will have.

追蹤問題，像路易斯維爾潛在的會有。

I'm all for it.

我完全贊成。

Key.

關鍵：

Yeah, it's weird to me because I heard what Coach said, and I heard what J just said.

是啊，我覺得很奇怪，因為我聽到了教練說的話，也聽到了J剛才說的話。

But when I think about teams that are skipping the conference championship games to advance, go ahead and rest up to get ready for the tournament.

但當我想到那些為了晉級而跳過聯賽冠軍賽的球隊，就先去休息一下，為比賽做準備。

I go back to like individual athletes that opt out to get ready to make their money.

我回去喜歡個別運動員，選擇退出準備賺錢。

They're protecting what they need to write.

他們在保護他們需要寫的東西。

No, I'm just No, no, I hear it.

不，我只是不，不，我聽到了。

It's OK for a team to opt out of paying 14, opt out for a conference tournament to get ready to do what for the school win a championship.

球隊可以選擇不交14，選擇不參加聯賽準備做什麼為學校贏得冠軍。

But the moment that a player decides I'm done because I got to get ready to protect my family for the rest of my life.

但當一個玩家決定我不幹了的那一刻，因為我得準備好保護我的家人度過餘生。

Everybody seems to go crazy.

每個人似乎都瘋了。

I just cannot.

我只是不能。

Can I say something because you bring up such a great point?

你提出了這麼好的觀點，我能說點什麼嗎？

And I don't know if you guys saw the news about Michigan State.

也不知道你們有沒有看到密歇根州立大學的新聞。

I know we discussed it, and Michigan State will be a tournament team.

我知道我們討論過了，密歇根州立大學將是一支錦標賽球隊。

Guess we can't refer to them anymore as the Michigan State Spartans.

我想我們不能再稱他們為密歇根州立斯巴達隊了。

We have to refer to them as the Michigan State Spartans presented by Rocket Mortgage.

我們不得不把他們稱為火箭抵押貸款公司推出的密歇根州立斯巴達隊。

I want you to know how we constantly we're still trying to get name, image and likeness.

我想讓你知道，我們如何不斷我們還在努力獲得名字、形象和肖像。

Push the van ski instead of sitting on their hands about that.

推車滑雪，而不是坐以待斃，對此。

But we are allowing schools to change up their name.

但我們是允許學校改名的。

We're not going to call them the Michigan State Spartans anymore.

我們不會再叫他們密歇根州立斯巴達隊了。

For basketball.

對於籃球。

We call the Michigan State Spartans, presented by Rocket Mortgage.

我們叫密歇根州立斯巴達隊，由火箭抵押貸款提出。

But we want to kill kids like Jaylin Johnson, who decides to opt out.

但我們要殺死像傑林・約翰遜這樣的孩子，誰決定選擇退出。

He's quitting on his team well, our teams quitting on their conference if they opt out their conference tournaments because that's a huge revenue generator for them.

他退出他的球隊好了，我們的球隊退出他們的會議，如果他們選擇退出他們的會議比賽，因為那是他們的一個巨大的收入來源。

Even if we're not having fans in the stands, there still TV deals, you don't think we want to see Michigan and Illinois go for the Big 10 championship in Michigan, opts out.

即使我們沒有球迷在看臺上，還有電視交易，你認為我們不想看到密歇根和伊利諾伊在密歇根州的10大冠軍，退出。

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