Yeah, the Miami Heat and the NBA are already going down the path of investigation, obviously, for punishment for Meyers, Leonard for his public use of the anti Semitic slur.

是啊，邁阿密熱火隊和NBA已經開始走上調查的道路了，很明顯，是為了懲罰梅耶斯、萊昂納德公開使用反閃米特語的行為。

And rightfully so.

而且是理所當然的。

Because, you know, as an NBA analyst here at ESPN and also a w N b a player who just genuinely loves hoops, basketball is basketball.

因為，你知道，作為ESPN的NBA分析師，同時也是一個真正熱愛籃球的球員，籃球就是籃球。

This really gave me so much pause yesterday discovering this, and I was out here in Los Angeles working with my agent, who happens to be a young Jewish woman.

這真的讓我昨天發現了這個，我在洛杉磯這裡和我的經紀人一起工作，她恰好是一個年輕的猶太女人。

And I was reading the story and I grabbed my phone and I pointed to her, and I and I had to ask her what that word was, and she had to educate me on its history.

而我在看故事的時候，我拿起手機指著她，我和我要問她那個詞是什麼，她要教育我它的歷史。

And I appreciated her taking that time, and I saw a number of people going through that same process of what did he say and why was this even said?

我很感激她花了這麼多時間，我看到很多人都在經歷同樣的過程，他說了什麼，為什麼會這樣說？

And I think overall, you know, there's zero tolerance for hate speech, period.

我認為總體來說，你知道，有零容忍 仇恨言論，期間。

As a society, we've been having these conversations, especially after the summer of 2020 where many have been actively educating themselves on how we move, how we stand, how we look to our left and to our right and treat one another right.

作為一個社會，我們一直在進行這樣的對話，尤其是在2020年夏天之後，很多人都在積極地進行教育，我們如何行動，如何站立，如何左顧右盼，如何正確對待彼此。

And I am.

我也是

And I'm talking about not just the black community and the conversations we're having with the white community.

我說的不僅僅是黑人社區和我們與白人社區的對話。

But we're also standing in solidarity now as we're seeing, you know, time go on with the Asian community fighting Asian hate.

但我們現在也站在團結一致的立場上，因為我們看到，你知道，時間的推移與亞裔社區對抗亞裔仇恨。

And so any time hate speech is involved, we must condemn it.

所以任何時候涉及到仇恨言論，我們都必須譴責它。

These are necessary conversations, and they are inclusive conversations for this exact reason.

這些都是必要的對話，而且正是因為這個原因，這些對話才具有包容性。

So, you know, private or public use of any word, it cannot be tolerated.

所以，你知道，私下或公開使用任何詞語，都是不能容忍的。

And that and I just think personally that is on us to govern in our own circles, right for that exact reason.

而這一點，我只是覺得個人認為，這是在我們自己的圈子裡治理，對的，正是因為這個原因。

Now, as it pertains really to the NBA, they're heading down the right path, you know, as he will be away from the team indefinitely.

現在，因為它涉及到真正的NBA，他們正在走向正確的道路，你知道，因為他將無限期地離開球隊。

Mind you, he is already out, you know, for the season with shoulder surgery.

你要知道，他已經退出了，你知道，本賽季肩部手術。

But this allows him to apologize properly to the people you know publicly, which I know he just posted an apology, but also you know, you know, that's a start, but also privately apologized to the people.

但是這讓他可以好好的向你認識的人公開道歉，我知道他剛剛發了一個道歉，但是你也知道，你知道，這是一個開始，但是也私下裡向人道歉。

You know that he might have offended as well, and he doesn't have to look too far because, you know the Miami Heat owner, Micky Arison, and his son Nick the Heat, you know, CEO, their Jewish.

你知道他可能也得罪了人，他不用看的太遠，因為，你知道邁阿密熱火隊的老闆，米奇-阿里森，還有他的兒子尼克-熱火隊，你知道，CEO，他們的猶太人。

And so I always say, in this time you have to educate yourself so that you can educate others.

所以我常說，在這個時候你要教育自己，這樣才能教育別人。

And that's exactly what Meyers Leonard will have to do with his time away.

而這正是梅耶斯-萊昂納德在離開的時候要做的事情。

I wouldn't be surprised with the docking of pay.

對接工資我也不會感到奇怪。

And we can't have this standard of Oh, in this culture, this words mean that, you know, means this and like all of it is bad.

我們不能有這樣的標準 哦，在這種文化中，這個詞意味著，你知道，意味著這一點，像所有的是壞的。

This is conduct detrimental to the team.

這是對團隊不利的行為。

I think, per, you know, past policies.

我想，根據，你知道，過去的政策。

A lot of times it comes down to the team conduct policy where they're probably gonna dictate, you know, how many games potentially missed, which means dockage of pay.

很多時候，它歸結為球隊的行為政策，他們可能會決定，你知道，有多少場比賽可能錯過，這意味著扣工資。

But overall, this, you know, conduct.

但總的來說，這，你知道，行為。

Even if it was done on his own time on his own dime on his own twitch stream, which, by the way, he's been, I think banned from those partnerships of you know, even if it's done on his own time.

即使是在他自己的時間上做的 在他自己的twitch流上做的，順便說一下，他已經，我想被禁止了那些合作關係的你知道，即使是在他自己的時間上做的。

You know it's done in public.

你知道這是在公共場合做的。

It's done in private.

這是在私下裡進行的。

It's all bad.

都是壞事。

And it's all wrong, as any hate speech should fully be condemned.

而且這都是錯誤的，因為任何仇恨言論都應該受到充分的譴責。

Now, before we move on, I just want to make one clarification.

現在，在我們繼續之前，我只想澄清一點。

He has not been suspended from the Miami Heat team.

他沒有被邁阿密熱火隊停賽。

He's just away from the team indefinitely as it stands right now, Kimberly.

他只是無限期地離開了球隊，就目前而言，金伯利。

Yeah.

是啊。

You know, here's what got me about this whole story.

你知道，這就是我對這整個故事的看法。

Um, it wasn't just the use of the slur, that tired apology that he put out And the reason I called tired is because, you know, you said he claimed I didn't know.

嗯，這不僅僅是使用的汙言穢語，那累人的道歉，他放出 而我之所以說累人是因為，你知道，你說他聲稱我不知道。

Like, I I didn't know what that word really meant, and I don't fault him.

就像，我我不知道這個詞到底是什麼意思，我也不怪他。

I don't call anyone for not understanding the history of or anything like that.

我不叫任何人不瞭解歷史之類的。

It's all upon us to get educated on all history, right?

所有的歷史教育都要靠我們自己，對吧？

But the way he used it in a string of of words, like, you know, Evan, cowards and all this stuff, like sleeping this like he at least knew it was negative.

但他用它的方式在一連串的單詞，像，你知道，埃文，懦夫和所有這些東西，就像睡覺這個像他至少知道這是消極的。

Right?

對吧？

So you may not know how when it started How bad is it?

所以你可能不知道它是怎麼開始的，有多嚴重？

Like But, you know, it's bad enough where that should not ever come out your mouth.

但是，你知道，這已經夠糟的了，不應該從你嘴裡說出來。

So to me, when I hear something like this, like if this were an NFL player, like I'm looking at the team like don't, I'd say.

所以對我來說，當我聽到這樣的事情，就像如果這是一個NFL的球員，就像我看著球隊像不要，我會說。

And don't wait for the NFL like the team needs to step in, suspend this person, you know, stuff like that.

而不要等NFL像球隊需要介入，暫停這個人，你知道，類似的東西。

Because I find them because to me, there has to be zero tolerance and especially, you know, with with him standing during the anthem last year, I understood, You know, everybody has their preference and what they wanted to do during that.

因為我發現他們，因為對我來說，必須是零容忍，尤其是，你知道，與他站在去年的國歌期間，我明白，你知道，每個人都有自己的喜好和他們想做的事情在這期間。

But he was the only guy on the team that stood up during the anthem.

但他是隊裡唯一一個在國歌時站起來的人。

And he said he even told Mark Spears are undefeated writer, Um, you know, I respect.

他說他甚至告訴馬克-斯皮爾斯是不敗的作家，嗯，你知道，我尊重。

I respect patriotism.

我尊重愛國主義。

Like I have deep patriotism.

就像我有深厚的愛國情懷一樣。

I respect black lives matter.

我尊重黑人的生命

But, you know, I'm rooted deeply in patriotism.

但是，你知道，我的愛國主義根深蒂固。

And so to me, I've seen this person now conflate patriotism and protest as if this country wasn't founded on the backs of protests and, you know, fighting oppression and British rule and all that stuff.

所以在我看來，我看到這個人現在把愛國主義和抗議混為一談，好像這個國家不是建立在抗議的基礎上的，你知道，對抗壓迫和英國統治和所有這些東西。

So you know, like like I'm just a little concern of the lack of awareness, but that doesn't mean he can't educate himself.

所以你知道，就像我只是有點擔心意識的缺失，但這並不意味著他不能教育自己。

But just because you get caught in a situation doesn't mean that you just released a statement saying I'm sorry.

但是，你被抓了，不代表你就發表聲明說對不起。

I didn't I just didn't know.

我沒有，我只是不知道。

Um, you gotta do the work now for me.

嗯，你現在要為我做的工作。

I I think if you look at his history and started for me in the bubble with him standing and his ignorance into what the black lives matter movement means now this is more ignorance of him not knowing what the word meant and using it.

我我認為如果你看他的歷史，並開始為我在保麗龍中與他站在和他的無知進入什麼黑人生命問題運動意味著現在這是更多的無知他不知道這個詞的意思和使用它。

So it's almost like you got to the NBA has all these programs.

所以，這幾乎是你到了NBA有所有這些項目。

Just like now you got to start a program on Hey, this hurts people.

就像現在，你得啟動一個程序，在嘿，這傷害了人們。

This is offensive.

這是令人反感的。

This word you cannot use, and to me, he's just using words and going by what his His own Feelings and beliefs are not being educated by different communities, different cultures and different things that's happened in this world.

這個詞你不能用，對我來說，他只是在用詞，用他自己的感覺和信念去做，而不是被不同的社區、不同的文化和這個世界上發生的不同事情所教育。

And so this is what is really need to be happening while they suspend him.

所以這才是真正需要發生的事情，而他們將他停職。

They should dock him with pay.

他們應該扣他工資。

They should make him step away.

他們應該讓他走開。

They did it with the Clippers owner.

他們和快船隊的老闆做了。

You go away.

你走吧

All right.

好吧，我知道了

So they take him, go away and educate him, make him attend classes, make him do these all these things to educate himself.

所以他們帶著他，去教育他，讓他去上課，讓他做這些所有的這些事情來教育自己。

So if he is allowed back with the team or any other team, he would be educated, informed he would know.

所以如果讓他回到球隊或者其他球隊，他會受到教育，瞭解情況他會知道。

And And I totally agree with you about the generic apology.

我也完全同意你說的通用道歉。

You see these apologies so many times, it's almost like they have a template for these apologies.

你看這些道歉的次數多了，簡直就像他們有一個道歉的模板。

And guys just following.

還有人只是跟著。

So this this No, no, no.

所以，這個這個不，不，不。