S congressional hearing.

斯國會聽證會。

The bipartisan hearings are looking at how security contingencies failed to respond adequately on why it took hours to call out the National Guard.

兩黨聽證會正在研究安全突發事件如何未能充分迴應為什麼需要幾個小時才能召喚國民警衛隊。

So far, the authorities have charged more than 200 people over the riot.

到目前為止，當局已經對騷亂事件起訴了200多人。

Some are linked to far right groups.

有些人與極右集團有聯繫。

Three of the four officials testifying resigned after the riot, which disrupted congressional ratification of President Biden's election victory.

四名作證的官員中有三名在騷亂後辭職，騷亂擾亂了國會準許拜登總統的選舉勝利。

Well, Stephen Sund, the former chief of the U.

好吧，斯蒂芬-桑德，美國前首席。

S Capitol police, said his officers were outnumbered by the insurrectionists who deployed dangerous weapons against law enforcement.

S國會警察說，他的官員人數超過了叛亂分子，他們對執法部門部署了危險的武器。

On January the sixth.

在1月6日。

He said he believed that had bean intelligence failings leading up to the day these criminals came prepared for war.

他說，他相信，有豆情報失誤 導致這些罪犯來準備戰爭的一天。

They came with their own radio system to coordinate the attack and climbing gear and other equipment to defeat the capital's security features.

他們帶著自己的無線電系統來協調攻擊，還有攀爬裝備和其他設備來攻克首都的安全功能。

I am sickened by what I witnessed that day.

我對那天所看到的一切感到噁心。

Our officers fought valiantly using batons, shields, chemical munitions and pepper ball guns, toe hold back the Attackers, Capitol Police and responding law enforcement agencies showed tremendous restraint by not using their firearms, which would have likely lead to a more chaotic situation and a possible mass casualty incident.

我們的警察使用警棍、盾牌、化學彈藥和胡椒球槍英勇戰鬥，擊退了襲擊者，國會警察和響應的執法機構表現出極大的剋制，沒有使用他們的槍支，否則很可能導致更混亂的局面和可能的大規模傷亡事件。

No civilian law enforcement agency to include the United States Capitol Police is trained or equipped to repel an insurrection of thousands of individuals focused on breaching a building at all costs.

包括美國國會大廈警察在內的任何民事執法機構都沒有受過訓練，也沒有能力擊退數千人不惜一切代價闖入大樓的暴動。

I am extremely proud and appreciative of the Capitol police officers, the Metropolitan Police Department and the other law enforcement agencies that came to our assistance.

我對首都警察、大都會警察局和其他執法機構前來協助我們感到非常自豪和感謝。

A clear lack of accurate and complete intelligence across several federal agencies contributed to this event and not poor planning by the United States Capitol Police.

幾家聯邦機構明顯缺乏準確、完整的情報，導致了這一事件的發生，而不是美國國會大廈警方規劃不周。

But the former U S House sergeant at Arms, Paul Irving, denied the authorities had rejected having the National Guard deployed at the US Capitol because it might look bad, saying the intelligence did not warn the troops.

但前美國眾議院軍士長保羅-歐文否認當局拒絕讓國民警衛隊部署在美國國會大廈，因為這可能看起來很糟糕，他說情報沒有警告部隊。

Presence by use of the word optics has been mischaracterized in the media.

存在用光學一詞被媒體誤解。

Let me be clear optics as portrayed in the media, played no role whatsoever in my decisions about security, and any suggestion to the contrary is false.

讓我明確指出，媒體所描述的光學原理在我關於安全的決定中沒有發揮任何作用，任何相反的說法都是錯誤的。

Safety was always paramount when making security plans for January 6th.

在制定1月6日的安全計劃時，安全始終是最重要的。

We did discuss whether the intelligence warranted having troops, the capital, that was the issue and the collective judgment at that time was no.

我們確實討論了情報是否有必要出兵，首都，這是問題所在，當時的集體判斷是沒有。

The intelligence did not warrant that if the chief or any other security leader had expressed doubt about our readiness, without the National Guard, I would not have hesitated to request them.

情報顯示，如果首長或任何其他安全上司對我們的準備情況表示懷疑，如果沒有國民警衛隊，我會毫不猶豫地要求他們。

Chief Son Sen.

首席子參。

It started arm stagger, and I were confident in the Chiefs plan, and I did whatever I could to ensure that chief son had the support needed to prepare and execute that security plan.

它開始手臂交錯，我對酋長的計劃很有信心，我盡我所能確保酋長的兒子有必要的支持來準備和執行這個安全計劃。

Paul Irving there The BBC's Washington correspondent, Gary O.

保羅-歐文在那裡 BBC的華盛頓記者加里-歐。

Donohue, gave us his take on today's striking evidence.

多諾霍，給我們介紹了他對今天驚人證據的看法。

The testimony there from Steven Son, who's who resigned as the Capitol Hill police chief after January 6th, was striking E.

1月6日之後辭去國會山警察局長職務的史蒂文-桑在那裡的證詞很引人注目E。

He said at one point that they had planned for a protest.

他一度表示，他們曾計劃舉行一次抗議活動。

First Amendment protest on what they got was a military style assault on the capital.

第一修正案抗議他們得到的是對首都的軍事式攻擊。

Hey said there'd been an intelligence failure, that the intelligence about what was planned hadn't reached them and that he was critical also of the extent to which the National Guard was deployed quickly enough to the capital to help them out.

嘿說，有一個情報失敗， 關於什麼是計劃的情報沒有達到他們， 他也責備的程度 國民警衛隊被部署到首都足夠快，以幫助他們。

So There's a whole range of issues here that they're looking at, but those are among some of the most important ones.

所以，這裡有一系列他們正在研究的問題，但這些都是最重要的問題之一。

And is the heart of these hearings getting to the bottom of what went wrong in security failings that day?

而這些聽證會的核心就是要查清當天安全故障的問題所在嗎？

Expecting?

期待嗎？

Yeah, there's a few issues.

是的，有一些問題。

One is the intelligence in the run up to January.

一是一月前的情報。

The sticks.

棍子。

Who knew what When was it communicated properly?

誰知道什麼時候正確傳達？

Was it accurate?

準確嗎？

Did he give any kind of sense of the scale of what was being planned on the organization behind what was being planned?

他有沒有讓人感覺到正在計劃的事情背後的組織的規模？

What was the extent of the preparation that went into it beforehand?

事先準備到什麼程度？

Was enough National Guard members in place ready to help out?

是否有足夠的國民警衛隊成員準備好幫忙？

If not, who had blocked those requests on?

如果沒有，是誰屏蔽了這些請求？

Then, as the thing unfolded itself, what was the kind of command and control situation?

那麼，隨著事情的展開，是一種什麼樣的指揮和控制局面呢？

Why did it take, for example, 2.5 hours after the National Guard was authorized by the Pentagon for them to show up on Capitol Hill?

例如，為什麼在五角大樓授權國民警衛隊2.5小時後，他們才出現在國會山？

So there are some big questions.

所以有一些大問題。

And of course, this was the first breach of the capital by violent, uh, insurrectionists.

當然，這也是暴力的，呃，起義者第一次攻入首都。

If you might call that since the British attacked US capital back at the beginning of the 19th century.

如果你可以這樣說，因為英國人早在19世紀初就攻擊了美國的首都。

On day five people died on that day.

當天就有5人死亡。

And so this is something that is absolutely crucial for the American state to understand and to try and prevent happening again.

所以這對美國國家來說，絕對是至關重要的，要理解並努力防止再次發生。

More than 200 people have been arrested so far over this, right?

到目前為止，已經有200多人為此被捕了吧？

Our investigations very much.

我們的調查非常。

Still ongoing.

仍在進行中。

Oh, yeah, Absolutely.

哦，是的，絕對的。

I mean, they are sifting through, you know, acres and acres of video footage and photographs and online posts and all that kind of thing.

我的意思是，他們正在篩選 通過，你知道，英畝和英畝 視頻錄像和照片 和網上帖子和所有的那種東西。

Uh, they've issued charges against the number of people associating with one of those right right wing groups, the oath keepers.

呃，他們已經對一些與右翼組織之一有關的人提出了指控，宣誓者。

The number of their members have been charged on the charges range.

其成員的數量已在收費範圍內收取。

A huge range of charges.

巨大的收費範圍。

Trespass upwards.

向上侵入。

Really.

真的嗎？

What's not happened?

什麼事沒發生？

There's no one's been charged.

沒有人被起訴。

For example, in connection with the death of the Capitol Police officer Brian Sick Nick, who has succumb to his injuries The day afterwards.

例如，與死於國會大廈的警官布萊恩-西克-尼克的傷勢有關，他已經屈服於他的傷勢，第二天。

No one charged on that score yet.

目前還沒有人是以被起訴。