Dude, listen, I'm sure he's Brady's boy.

夥計，聽著，我肯定他是布雷迪的兒子。

I'm sure he's all of those things, but give me a break, man.

我相信他是所有這些事情， 但給我一個休息，男人。

Hey, In case anyone's confused In the 20 years that Tom Brady spent with the Patriots, the Patriots defense gave up 18 points a game.

嘿，如果有人感到困惑 在湯姆-布雷迪為愛國者隊效力的20年裡，愛國者隊的防守每場比賽丟掉18分。

18 points.

18分

You don't think you're gonna win a lot of games?

你以為你不會贏很多比賽嗎？

NFL giving up 18 off the six championships.

NFL六冠王放棄18個關。

His defense was in the top 10.

他的防守在前十名。

All of those winds, like it does matter.

那些風，好像確實很重要。

I love Tom Brady.

我愛湯姆・布雷迪。

I think what he's done has been absolutely remarkable.

我認為他所做的事情絕對是了不起的。

Give the coach some credit, man.

給教練一些信任，夥計。

It is an and conversation not in or it is an And they were a successful as they were because they work together.

這是一個和對話不在或者是一個和他們一樣成功是因為他們一起工作。

But Bill Belichick had the game plan toe put it together from a defense of perspective, special teams and offense.

但比爾-貝利奇克從防守的角度、特殊團隊和進攻的角度都有把比賽計劃。

So So all this idea that one guy gets all the credit is laughable.

所以，所以這一切認為一個人的功勞都是可笑的。

Danny Amendola.

Danny Amendola.

I know I don't know what got into him, but he is straight up high.

我知道我不知道他怎麼了，但他是直接高大上。

I don't know.

我不知道。

He's in California, Colorado.

他在加州，科羅拉多州。

I'm not sure whether states is legal, but he's in one of them states right now.

我不知道各州是否合法，但他現在就在其中一個州。

I'm just like you all know eso ideo I was looking through your notes and you had an interesting take on this.

我就像你們都知道eso ideo我在看你的筆記，你有一個有趣的看法。

What did you think when you heard that conversation?

當你聽到這段對話時，你有什麼想法？

I tend to agree more.

我比較傾向於同意。

Now I know that it's not all Tom Brady and Tom Brady is not responsible for it all, but G.

現在我知道，這不是湯姆-布雷迪的全部，湯姆-布雷迪也不需要為這一切負責，但G。

You know me.

你知道我的。

I've been players, players make great coaches, trust me, they overcome coaching a lot, and Bill Belichick is not immune of that.

我當過球員，球員會成為偉大的教練，相信我，他們克服了很多教練的問題，比爾-貝里奇克也不能免俗。

Nick Saban, one of the greatest college coach I've that's ever done it.

尼克・塞班，我所見過的最偉大的大學教練之一。

Play for him, had to overcome coaching at times.

為他打球，有時不得不克服教練。

Um, Gregg Popovich.

嗯，格雷格-波波維奇。

I'm sure Tony Parker and Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobili and David Robinson had to overcome coaching.

我相信託尼-帕克、蒂姆-鄧肯、馬努-吉諾比利和大衛-羅賓遜都要克服教練。

The bottom line is this.

底線是這樣的。

There's a correlation between the greatest of all times and the greatest coaches.

史上最偉大的人和最偉大的教練之間是有關聯的。

Phil Jackson, right, won championships.

菲爾-傑克遜（右），贏得了冠軍。

Coincidentally, he had Jordan and then he had Kobe and Shaq like this is not one of those situations where we have to have this this against each other, but players arm or responsible for championships.

巧合的是，他有喬丹，然後他有科比和沙克這樣的情況下，我們必須有這個這個對立，但球員手臂或負責冠軍。

Players are more responsible for organizations having success over a long period of time.

球員對組織長期擁有成功更有責任感。

You don't think Willie McGinest and Vince Will Fork and Richard Seymour and all of those James, Um, all of those guys that played defense for the New England Patriots had a lot to do with the Patriot way as well.

你不覺得威利-麥金斯特、文斯-威爾-福克、理查德-西摩，還有那些詹姆斯，嗯，所有這些為新英格蘭愛國者隊打防守的人，也和愛國者的方式有很大關係。

That's where I disagree with them.

這就是我不同意他們的觀點。

Damn Mendiola.

該死的門迪奧拉。

But I guarantee you this They wouldn't have went to nine without Tom Brady at quarterback.

但我向你保證，如果沒有湯姆-布雷迪做四分衛，他們就不會打到9分。

And that was the most important part of that whole situation.

而這是整個局勢中最重要的部分。

Because even though they gave up 18 points, Jeff, when they got the Super Bowls, Tom Brady had to pull last minute drives and do all of these things had to mount a comeback against the Atlanta Falcons.

因為即使他們輸了18分，傑夫，當他們拿到超級碗的時候，湯姆-布雷迪不得不在最後一分鐘拉動進攻，做了所有這些事情，不得不對亞特蘭大獵鷹隊進行反擊。

How you like that defensive game playing early in the game?

你喜歡比賽初期的那種防守打法嗎？

So look, I'm or players I'm or for the players being the reason that they listen.

所以你看，我或玩家我或為玩家是他們聽的原因。

They had three points until they came back.

他們有三分，直到他們回來。

So you can't say it's all on the defense like everybody was playing bad till the end.

所以你不能說這都是防守的問題，就像大家到最後都打得不好一樣。

But think about.

但是想想。

They stopped the greatest show on turf, the Colts, which I was a part of one of most prolific offices.

他們在草皮上停止了最偉大的表演，小馬隊，我是最多產的辦公室之一的一部分。

They held us the three points and a F C championship.

他們為我們守住了三分和一個F C冠軍。

Games like this isn't just Tom Brady.

這樣的遊戲不僅僅是湯姆-布雷迪。

Vegetarian bust out to really important kicks, right?

素人的破滅真的很重要的踢球，對嗎？

So it's It's all of it.

所以它是它的全部。

My whole My whole point with Amendola is you can't just credit one guy with all these things and the guys you just named.

我對阿門多拉的看法是，你不能只把這些事情歸功於一個人，還有你剛剛點名的那些人。

Listen, the Hall of Fame should be littered with guys from the Patriots defense.

聽著，名人堂裡應該到處都是愛國者隊的防守隊員。

I can assure you, I saw them one on one.

我可以向你保證，我看到他們一對一。

I understand how good those cats work.

我明白那些貓有多好用。

So the game plan they placed together, man, it is freaking for really?

所以，他們放在一起的遊戲計劃，男人，這是嚇唬人的真的嗎？

And by the way, Belichick put that together.

順便說一下，貝利奇克把它放在一起。

So So you've got to give him some kind of credit.

所以... ...所以你得給他一些榮譽。

By the way, Amendola.

對了，阿門多拉。

He gave you a job, so come on, man.

他給了你一份工作，所以來吧，夥計。

Like, give me a break.

就像，讓我休息一下。

Belichick was a defense of coordinated before he got to the paper.

貝利奇克在上報之前，就是一個協調的防守。

Quick final thought, Graziano, where do you fall on all this?

最後想一想 格拉齊亞諾 你是怎麼想的?

Well, my first thought was we had Danny Amendola on a 90 minute NFL Live last summer.

好吧，我的第一反應是去年夏天我們讓丹尼-阿門多拉上了90分鐘的NFL直播。

I was begging him to say something this interesting, the whole show, and he did.

我求他說些有趣的事，整個節目，他都說了。

So I wonder where this was then.

所以我不知道當時這是哪裡。

But look, Bill Belichick's not gonna win six Super Bowls if he doesn't find the greatest quarterback of all time in the sixth round.

但聽著，比爾・貝利奇克如果不在第六輪找到史上最偉大的四分衛，就不會贏得六屆超級碗。

Tom Brady is not gonna win six Super Bowls.

湯姆・布雷迪不會贏得六個超級碗。

If Bill Belichick's not as good as he is at maneuvering the salary cap in putting a roster together, it's to Jeff's point.

如果說比爾-貝里奇克在組建陣容的過程中，對工資帽的操縱能力不強，那是對傑夫的看法。

It's and not or and I think that's the key thing to remember here.

這是和而不是或，我想這是關鍵的事情，要記住這裡。

E.

E.

I mean, there's just nothing better than to sum it all up with a reasonable man.

我的意思是，沒有什麼比一個通情達理的人總結出來的更好了。

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感謝您在YouTube上觀看ESPN的體育直播和優質內容。

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