I'm Rachel Nichols.

我是瑞秋-尼古拉斯

Still here with Paul Pierce?

還在這裡與保羅-皮爾斯？

David Fizdale.

David Fizdale

It is time for one of our favorite games here on the jump Bs or real talk.

現在是我們最喜歡的遊戲之一，在這裡跳Bs或真正的談話。

We give you the quotes.

我們給你報價。

You tell us how true you think they are.

你告訴我們你認為他們有多真實。

So starting with Steph Curry, who was asked about Tom Brady's longevity ahead of the Super Bowl, much like Brady, Curry, believes he can have an extended prime.

所以從斯蒂芬-庫裡開始，他在超級碗之前被問到了湯姆-布雷迪的壽命問題，和布雷迪一樣，庫裡也相信自己可以延長黃金期。

Here's Curry when asked about championship windows.

當被問及冠軍窗口時，庫裡是這樣說的。

Take a listen.

聽一聽吧

You're thinking this year and next year you're thinking, you know, with Clay coming back, you're thinking about all those different things.

你在考慮今年和明年，你在考慮，你知道，克萊回來了，你在考慮所有這些不同的事情。

But right now, who's to say, you know, we can't put pieces together?

但現在，誰能說，你知道，我們不能把碎片放在一起？

We have, you know, in the middle of my prom and thinking about, you know, just all the things that we've gone through over the last four or five years that we can kind of build on.

我們有，你知道，在中間 我的舞會和思考，你知道，只是所有的事情 我們已經經歷了 在過去的四五年，我們可以種建立在。

Um, who is this?

嗯，這是誰？

It's hard to say what they actually, you know, number is, but I think we're we're in a good spot right now.

很難說他們實際上是什麼，你知道，數字是，但我認為我們... ...我們現在是在一個很好的位置。

Let's put it that way.

讓我們這樣說吧。

You just said you feel like you're in the middle of your crime How far do you think you can stretch that for?

你剛才說你覺得自己正在犯罪中 你覺得你能把這句話延伸到什麼程度？

We're gonna find out.

我們會知道的

Uh huh.

嗯哼。

Thanks.

謝謝你

I mean Paul, Steph said he feels like he's just in his twenties saying he's in the middle of his prime.

我是說保羅，斯蒂芬說他覺得自己才二十多歲，說自己正值壯年。

Do you think that's Bs or real talk?

你覺得這是Bs還是真話？

That's really talk.

這真是說說而已。

He's an all time player, Ray H.

他是一個歷史悠久的球員，雷H。

And all time players find a way each and every year, his prime.

而所有的時間球員每年都會找到一種方式，他的黃金期。

He doesn't rely on a lot of athleticism the way he handles the ball, the way he shoots.

他並不依賴很多運動能力，他處理球的方式，他投籃的方式。

He could be doing this for another 67 years.

他可以再做67年。

I truly believe that if they get some pieces around them, the magic can happen for them again.

我真的相信，如果他們身邊有一些碎片，神奇的事情就能再次發生在他們身上。

Yeah, this is real talk.

是啊，這是真正的談話。

I mean, you think about it.

我的意思是，你想想看。

We were comparing them to Tom Brady.

我們把他們和湯姆-布雷迪做了比較。

Tom Brady is showing everybody with technology is science and everything.

湯姆-布雷迪正在用技術向大家展示科學和一切。

We know about nutrition, that these guys could play longer to their forties now, and so that's a contact sport.

我們知道營養學，這些人現在可以打得更久到四十多歲，所以這是一項接觸性運動。

You're telling me Steph Curry can't do it in the n b.

你是說斯蒂芬-庫裡不能在NBA打球嗎？

A.

A.

With the way that he plays the game on his game again.

以他在遊戲上的玩法，再。

Like Paul said, it's based on a lot of skill and shooting and things like that.

就像保羅說的，它是基於很多技術和投籃之類的東西。

I don't see why I couldn't be this guy when he got hurt.

我不明白為什麼他受傷的時候我不能成為這個人。

It wasn't like he got old man injuries.

他又不是得了老人傷。

He had a real injury that happened, you know, frequently.

他有一個真正的傷害，發生，你知道，經常。

And so this guy is gonna come back and pick up where he left off.

所以這傢伙要回來了，接上他離開的地方。

We've already seen him have big games.

我們已經看到他有大場面了。

And as they put those pieces back together, like he said, we're gonna be, uh, talking about Golden State like we usually do.

就像他說的那樣，當他們把這些碎片重新組合在一起的時候，我們會像往常一樣談論金州。

I mean, certainly the way Curry plays does lend itself to an old man game.

我的意思是，當然，庫裡的打法確實適合老人家比賽。

Not that he needs toe have one right now.

他現在不需要有一個。

He's still way too young for that.

他還是太年輕了。

But the point is, his game is going to age well in the league, the question with him was the injuries and fizzy right.

但關鍵是，他的比賽會在聯盟中很好的老去，他的問題是傷病和嘶吼權。

It's not because he had sort of old and creaky injuries, but there was a point in his career.

這不是因為他有那種老朽的傷病，而是他的職業生涯中有一個點。

He was injury prone and certainly right now, without clam active on the court, uh, teams were going at him there, double and triple teaming him there, physically roughing him up.

他很容易受傷，當然現在，沒有蛤蜊在球場上活躍，呃，球隊在那裡對他進行攻擊，雙隊和三隊在那裡，身體上對他進行粗暴的攻擊。

So the Onley concern I would have is G is that kind of thing going to take a wear and tear on him or reignite some sort of injury that it hasn't surfaced in years and years.

所以，我會擔心的是，G這種東西會不會對他造成磨損，或者重新引發某種傷病，這幾年來都沒有浮現過。

But I don't expect it to.

但我不指望它。

I expect Steph Curry to be Steph Curry.

我期望斯蒂芬-庫裡能成為斯蒂芬-庫裡。

And again, the way he plays basketball tells me that Prime is going on for a long, long e.

而他打籃球的方式又告訴我，擎天柱要走很長很長的e。

I want to get to the Nets because a lot of people have had thoughts.

我想去網隊，因為很多人都有想法。

Paul, I know you have had thoughts on the Nets defense.

保羅，我知道你對網隊的防守有想法。

Isaiah Thomas, now the younger one, not seek the younger one, the one who was just named to Team Musa joining the conversation as he watched that Nets Wizards thriller on Sunday.

以賽亞-托馬斯，現在年輕的一個，不求年輕的一個，那個剛剛被任命為球隊穆薩加入對話，他在週日觀看了那個網隊奇才隊的大勝。

Here's what I t shared on Twitter quote.

這是我t在Twitter上分享的報價。

Who plays defense in the MBA?

誰在MBA裡打防守？

Nobody.

沒有人。

L o l.

L o l.

You can't win how the game is called.

怎麼叫遊戲都贏不了。

It's an offensive game.

這是一個進攻性的遊戲。

Even the best defenders air getting 30 put on their head every night.

即使是最好的後衛，每天晚上也會有30人被戴在頭上。

Paul, do you think that I t saying that nobody plays defense anymore?

保羅，你以為我說的是沒人防守了嗎？

Is Bs or real talk?

是Bs還是真話？

I think it's real talk.

我想這是真正的談話。

I mean, in today's game, it's tough.

我的意思是，在今天的比賽中，這很難。

The play defense race.

戲防守比賽。

There's a lot of switching.

有很多轉換。

Uh, the rules are geared toward the offensive players.

呃，規則是針對進攻球員的。

You can't be have any kind of physicality.

你不能有任何形式的身體性。

And so I mean, that's why you're seeing these astronomical numbers getting put up.

所以我的意思是，這就是為什麼你會看到這些天文數字越來越多。

You're seeing guys average triple doubles.

你看到的人平均三雙。

Guys are putting up numbers we haven't seen in this league and ever.

大家的數據都是我們在這個聯盟中從未見過的，也從未見過。

And so you know, the defense is almost non existence.

所以你知道，防守幾乎是不存在的。

But it's fun to watch, you know, when you see the Nets go out there and score 1 40 lose, uh, scoring 1 40.

但這很有趣，你知道，當你看到籃網隊在那裡得分40輸掉，呃，得分40。

I mean that z exciting.

我的意思是，Z令人興奮。

But yeah, I don't think there's any defense being played much.

但是是的，我不認為有任何防守被打多。

You know, im disagree a little bit from the standpoint of I think under the rules that are out there, I think coaches and teams, there are some great defensive teams.

你知道，我有點不同意，從我認為在規則下，是在那裡，我認為教練和球隊，有一些偉大的防守球隊的立場。

I think we've got to readjust our lens and start looking at the fact that the scores are gonna be higher.

我想我們得重新調整我們的視角，開始關注分數會更高的事實。

Now.

現在就去

How do you judge a defense based on the explosion and scoring?

如何根據爆發力和得分來判斷防守？

And I think that there are coaches that are doing a great job off under the circumstances of the league rules and the way teams are playing with the speed and the spacing that there are coaches putting together great defensive systems to give themselves a chance to win and win big.

而且我認為，在聯盟規則和球隊打法的情況下，有的教練做得很好，有的教練用速度和間距來組建偉大的防守體系，讓自己有機會贏得比賽，贏得大勝。

Well, it's funny talking about the Nets in this context, because they're almost like their own traveling All Star game.

好吧，在這種情況下談論網隊是很有趣的，因為他們幾乎就像他們自己的巡迴全明星賽。

When they play right, they've got multiple big name players and the scores were in the 140.

他們打得好的時候，他們有多名大牌球員，分數都在140分左右。

So it feels like an All Star Game.

所以感覺就像一場全明星賽。

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感謝觀看ESPN在YouTube上的體育直播和優質內容訂閱ESPN plus。