Welcome back to the jump So good to have you here with us and and much like Kobe Bryant, you were a fierce competitors er on the court.

歡迎回來跳 很高興你能和我們在一起 就像科比-布萊恩特一樣 你在球場上是個激烈的競爭者

But I loved a recent interview you did with Mark Stein of The New York Times talking about how much better you got to know Kobe after your careers were over.

但我喜歡你最近接受《紐約時報》的馬克-斯坦恩的採訪，談及在你的職業生涯結束後，你對科比有了更多的瞭解。

In fact, you asked him to coach your daughter.

事實上，你讓他指導你的女兒。

McKenley.

McKenley.

How did that change your perception of him?

這如何改變你對他的看法？

Your relationship with him after he retired?

他退休後，你和他的關係？

I love that you have this window into his post career life.

我喜歡你為他的職業生涯後的生活提供的這個窗口。

I mean, it was just It was great.

我的意思是，這只是 這是偉大的。

I mean, you know, she wanted to play.

我的意思是，你知道，她想玩。

We're moving out here and, you know, I reached out to cope, and he's like, you know, hey, come in.

我們要搬到這裡來，而且，你知道，我伸出手來應付，他就像，你知道，嘿，進來。

And, um, you know, let's see how it goes.

而且，嗯，你知道，讓我們看看它是如何去。

And, uh, you know how she mixed in with the girls and it was good, you know, it was good.

而且，呃，你知道她是怎麼混進女孩，這是很好的，你知道，這是很好的。

She came in.

她進來了。

She fitted in well, and, you know, he worked there and he believed in her man, and it was great.

她很適合，而且，你知道，他在那裡工作，他相信她的男人，這是偉大的。

You know what I mean?

你知道我的意思嗎？

Just, you know, the learning standpoint, and it's just everything.

只是，你知道，學習的角度，它只是一切。

It's hotter and, you know, just that mentality.

天熱了，你知道，就是這種心態。

You know, that mama mentality and, you know, being confidence and been a winner.

你知道，媽媽的心態和， 你知道，是信心和一直是一個勝利者。

Zach, do you have any Any coach?

扎克，你有什麼教練嗎？

Kobe stories.

科比的故事。

I know that he got a chance to work with the twins, and I asked how often he practiced his team.

我知道他有機會和雙胞胎合作，我問他多久練一次隊。

And he said he had the girls running the triangle offense working out five or six days a week.

而且他說他讓跑三角進攻的女孩們每週鍛鍊五六天。

So I know you were.

所以我知道你是。

You were living by me and Encino.

你住在我和Encino旁邊.

He's out in Orange County.

他在橙縣

Do you have any crazy coach Cope stories?

你有什麼瘋狂的科普教練故事嗎？

Because I heard he's to put those girls through some things.

因為我聽說他要讓那些女孩經歷一些事情。

Oh, yeah.

哦，是的。

He had put a way first got there.

他已經把一種方式首先到達那裡。

He put McKinley through a 16.

他把麥金利通過16。

She didn't know what the 16 waas.

她不知道16娃是什麼。

So after practice, he got you know, all the other girls down there, they're shooting and doing whatever he like.

所以在練習後，他得到了你知道， 所有其他女孩在那裡， 他們拍攝和做任何他喜歡的。

Come on, Norma.

來吧，諾瑪。

Killing.

殺人。

He got hit the sideline to be 16, man.

他被打到邊線才16歲，夥計。

She did it, You know It was her first time ever doing a 16.

她做到了，你知道這是她第一次做16歲的事。

And, uh, she was like, Dad was like, I was expecting that.

而且，呃，她很喜歡，爸爸很喜歡， 我期待著這一點。

I was like, I know that's that Mamba.

我當時想，我知道那是曼巴。

You know, you know, But now they got her in the best shape, You know what I mean?

你知道，你知道，但現在他們讓她處於最佳狀態，你知道我的意思嗎？

She was in great shape, and, uh, you know, I mean, when when he talked, you know, they listened, you know, it was like, you know, it was mesmerized, you know, you know, by being coached by one of the greatest players to ever play this game.

她的狀態很好，而且，呃，你知道，我的意思是，當他說話的時候，你知道，他們聽著，你知道，這就像，你知道，它被迷住了，你知道，你知道，你知道，被有史以來最偉大的球員之一的教練打這場比賽。

Absolutely.

絕對的

Uh, Zebo, here's the thing.

呃，澤波，事情是這樣的。

Are you surprised?

你很驚訝嗎？

Because I know I was that Kobe wanted to coach.

因為我知道我是那個科比想執教的。

You know, guys that good usually can't coach because they think they expect everybody be as great as they are.

你知道嗎，那些優秀的人通常都不會做教練，因為他們認為他們希望每個人都像他們一樣偉大。

So what do you expect of that?

那麼，你對這個有什麼期待呢？

What do you think of that, man?

你覺得怎麼樣，夥計？

I mean, it was great.

我的意思是，這是偉大的。

I mean, you know, I mean, taking his time, you know, taking this time out of retirement and spending.

我的意思是，你知道，我的意思是，把他的時間， 你知道，把這段時間的退休和消費。

That's what that's what it was like by the retirement was girls, you know, he was dedicated to them and, uh, you know, they want everyone had a college you know they want to go to.

那是什麼那是什麼樣子的退休是女孩，你知道，他是專門為他們和，呃，你知道，他們希望每個人都有一個大學，你知道他們想去。

And Kobe is like, you know, you wanna go here, You wanna go there?

科比就像，你知道，你想去這裡，你想去那裡？

That's what we're gonna do.

這就是我們要做的。

We gonna get you there and they work forward.

我們會把你送到那裡，他們會努力向前。

And you know, that was his life from girls.

你知道，這就是他的生活，從女孩。

Man, I love the idea of you to who went head to head so many times you battled him Zebo more than we have lists of who he played against the most times.

男人，我喜歡你的想法，你到誰去頭對頭這麼多次，你與他Zebo比我們有誰的名單，他打的最多的時間。

And you are near the top of that list and that you guys became these friends Post retirement.

而你是名單上的佼佼者，你們成為了這些退休後的朋友。

Watching your two little girls is so awesome.

看著你的兩個小女兒，真是太厲害了。

Thanks so much for joining us tonight.

非常感謝你今晚加入我們。

We're gonna have you back on the show when you can actually come into the studio because we play a game called What were you thinking?

我們會讓你回到節目中，當你能真正來到演播室，因為我們玩了一個遊戲，叫 "你在想什麼？"。

And there's really no one else.

而且還真的沒有別人。

That would be better to find out what you were thinking during certain of those moments.

那最好是找出你在某些時刻的想法。

Thank you for watching ESPN on YouTube for live streaming sports and premium content.

感謝您在YouTube上觀看ESPN的體育直播和優質內容。