The Rhodes Scholarship.

羅德獎學金。

10 years with the New York Knicks.

在紐約尼克斯隊的10年。

I was a U S senator for 18 years.

我當了18年的美國參議員。

How about any writing experience?

有什麼寫作經驗呢？

Wrote three books went on the best seller list and the Tax Reform Act in 1986.

寫了三本書上了暢銷書排行榜，1986年的稅改法案。

But no TV writing, uh, any experience in front of audience?

但沒有電視寫作，呃，有在觀眾面前的經驗嗎？

Well, I gave a keynote address at the Democratic National Convention.

我在民主黨全國代表大會上做了主旨發言。

A man of large audience.

一個受眾面廣的人。

Oh, welcome back.

哦，歡迎回來。

I am honored to welcome into the jump former N B.

我很榮幸地歡迎前N B。

A All star two time champion with the Knicks, member of the Naysmith Basketball Hall of Fame and, of course, former U.

一個在尼克斯隊兩度奪冠的全明星，內史密斯籃球名人堂的成員，當然，前U。

S.

S.

Senator Mr Bill Bradley.

參議員Bill Bradley先生。

Thank you, Bill.

謝謝你，比爾

So much for joining us today.

今天就為大家介紹這麼多。

And I'm really sorry you're sportscasting.

而且我真的很抱歉，你是體育廣播。

Career didn't quite pan out there.

職業生涯並不順利。

Well, you know, on Lee the very best.

嗯，你知道，對李最好。

Make it on the ESPN.

讓它上ESPN。

You can't.

你不能這樣做

You can't have your own show unless you're the very best.

你不可能有自己的節目，除非你是最棒的。

I've heard that somewhere.

我在哪裡聽說過。

Thank you so much.

非常感謝你。

Of course.

當然了

Ah, Historic day for the country.

啊，國家歷史性的一天。

What does Inauguration Day especially this particular Inauguration Day mean to you?

就職日尤其是這個特殊的就職日對你來說意味著什麼？

Well, it was deeply meaningful to may.

嗯，這對梅來說，意義深遠。

I mean, I remember George Washington said the most important election that the country will have is not the first president that is elected, but the second, in other words, a transition of power, a peaceful transition of power.

我的意思是，我記得喬治-華盛頓說過，這個國家最重要的選舉，不是第一位當選的總統，而是第二位，換句話說，是權力的過渡，和平的權力過渡。

And that's what this ritual is all about.

這就是這個儀式的意義所在。

It's about going from one person to another in a peaceful way, and given the events of the previous two weeks, uh, it's really deeply moving for me to see it.

這是關於以一種和平的方式從一個人到另一個人，鑑於前兩週發生的事件，呃，看到它，我真的很感動。

I'm always moved by these inaugurations.

我總是被這些就職典禮所感動。

You know, I was on the on the diocese when, uh, Reagan was selected, inaugurated and when Clinton was inaugurated and out in the audience when Obama was inaugurated.

你知道，我是在教區上 當，呃，里根被選中，就職 和當克林頓就職 和出觀眾 當奧巴馬就職。

So it's a deeply meaningful ritual, symbolic of a new beginning.

所以這是一個意義深遠的儀式，象徵著一個新的開始。

You mentioned the events of a couple weeks ago.

你提到了幾周前的事件。

Given your experience as a senator for the state of New Jersey for nearly 20 years, what was it like for you to witness the riot, insurrection, the idea that they attempted to storm and take over the capital on January 6th?

鑑於你作為新澤西州參議員近20年的經歷，你目睹了1月6日的暴動、叛亂、他們試圖衝擊並接管首都的想法，是什麼感覺？

Well, I was appalled.

嗯，我很震驚。

I felt personally violated because I knew all those nooks and crannies.

我覺得我個人受到了侵犯，因為我知道那些犄角旮旯的地方。

In that count, I worked in that chamber.

在這個數中，我在那個房間工作。

Um, in that sense, I felt personally violated.

嗯，從這個意義上說，我覺得自己被侵犯了。

The Rotunda is kind of the the secret Cathedral of American Democracy, and people were in it to filing it.

輪廊算是美國民主的祕密大教堂，人們都在裡面備案。

I think all of them should be prosecuted, and it should never be tolerated again.

我認為他們都應該被起訴，再也不能容忍這種行為了。

We saw so many sports figures speak out after that event happened, and it's interesting.

在事件發生後，我們看到這麼多體育界人士都在發言，這很有意思。

There are people who say, Oh, we shouldn't have politics in sports You played during a time where you know, that was, frankly, never true that there weren't politics in sports.

有人說，哦，我們不應該在體育界搞政治，你打球的時候，你知道，那是，坦率地說，從來沒有在體育界搞政治。

And I'm curious what you think of today's athlete MBA athletes in particular, who have been so vocal advocating on behalf of social justice.

而我很好奇，您對當今的運動員尤其是MBA運動員有什麼看法，他們一直在為社會正義大聲疾呼。

What has impressed you about that?

給你留下深刻印象的是什麼？

And how does it compare to similar efforts by players of your generation?

和你們這一代玩家的類似努力相比又如何呢？

Because, you know, the sixties and seventies, that was a time to sure.

因為，你知道，六十年代和七十年代， 那是一個時間肯定。

Well, I'm particularly pleased by what they did in the lock down in Orlando, you know, they took, they took a really stand and in taking a stand that they put themselves at risk.

好吧，我特別高興 他們做了什麼 在鎖定在奧蘭多， 你知道，他們採取了， 他們採取了一個真正的立場 而在採取的立場 他們把自己的風險。

But Adam Silver is always encouraged players to be politically involved.

但亞當-西爾弗一直鼓勵球員參與政治。

And they were definitely that in our time, we were politically involved a little differently, you know?

他們絕對是，在我們那個時代，我們參與政治的方式有點不同，你知道嗎？

I mean, I taught taught school in, uh, in Harlem Street Academy Working Poverty program in Washington.

我是說，我在華盛頓的哈萊姆街學院教過書，呃，在哈萊姆街學院工作的貧困項目。

Other players did things with schools.

其他球員與學校做的事情。

Eso It was a little different, but the same element of commitment was there?

埃索雖然有些不同，但同樣的承諾元素是存在的？

Absolutely.

絕對的

We're gonna ask you for any Phil Jackson stories behind the scene from that time.

我們要問你任何菲爾-傑克遜的故事 從那個時候的幕後。

Or should I save that for off the air?

還是我應該把它留到直播之外？

No, no, no, no, no, no.

不，不，不，不。

I'll tell you a story of Phil Jackson.

我給你講一個菲爾-傑克遜的故事。

Not from those times, but related to the Senate.

不是那個時代的，而是和元老院有關。

He'll always try to get his player, stimulate them in many different ways.

他總是會嘗試讓自己的球員，用很多不同的方式刺激他們。

And so one day, he called me up when I was in the Senate, said he'd like to bring the Bulls to the Senate.

所以有一天，我在參議院的時候，他給我打電話，說他想把公牛隊帶到參議院去。

And so it was.

於是就這樣了。

The Senate was off that day, so the chamber was closed and I took the Bulls into the Senate chamber.

那天元老院休息，所以議事廳不開放，我帶著公牛隊進入元老院議事廳。

And you know where Michael Jordan naturally gravitated right to the majority leader's desk.

而你知道邁克爾-喬丹自然而然地就引向了多數派領袖的辦公桌。

I'm not surprised.

我一點也不驚訝。

Nothing about that story is surprising and very gracious of you to offer that tour.

這個故事沒有什麼好奇怪的，你也很慷慨地提供了這個旅遊。

You know, the MBA released video of Kareem Abdul Jabbar receiving his cove in 19 vaccine, and the idea was to promote the use of inoculations to end this pandemic.

你知道，MBA發佈了Kareem Abdul Jabbar在19年接受他的cove疫苗的視頻，這個想法是為了促進使用接種來結束這種流行病。

Commissioner Adam Silver added on Tuesday.

專員亞當-西爾弗週二補充道。

The league has at least discussed having current players received Cove vaccines to educate and influence the public regarding it's safety and effectiveness and kind of the line the MBA would have toe walk.

聯盟至少討論過讓現役球員接受科威疫苗，以教育和影響公眾，關於它的安全性和有效性，以及MBA將不得不走的那種線。

There is.

有。

Are they setting a good example by doing that, or is it going to appear too much that they're jumping the line in some way?

他們這樣做是樹立了一個好的榜樣，還是會顯得他們在某種程度上過於跳脫？

Where do you fall on that?

你是怎麼想的？

What do you in favor of their?

你贊成他們的什麼？

Well, I I think that the more we can encourage people thio get the vaccine, the better we're gonna be.

我想我們越是鼓勵人們注射疫苗 我們就會越好。

You know, 100 million people in the 1st 100 days is a very ambitious goal, and people are gonna have to know about where they could get the vaccine and be encouraged to take the initiative to do it.

你知道，1億人在第一個100天是一個非常雄心勃勃的目標，人們要知道他們在哪裡可以得到疫苗，並鼓勵他們主動去做。

And there are some players probably who could encourage them to do that absolutely.

而有一些玩家大概可以鼓勵他們這樣做絕對。

And I do want to ask you a little bit more about today's players.

而我確實想多問你一點關於今天的球員的情況。

Specifically, of course, your New York Knicks.

當然，具體來說，就是你們紐約尼克斯隊。

They are off to a seven and eight start this season, good for sixth place in the East under new coach Tom Thibodeau.

本賽季他們在新教練湯姆-錫伯杜的帶領下，取得了7勝8負的開局，排名東部第六。

How optimistic are you about this team this season?

你對這支球隊本賽季有多樂觀？

The future of the organization?

組織的未來？

Well, I don't pretend once a Knick fan, always a Knick fan.

好吧，我不假裝曾經是尼克斯的球迷，永遠是尼克斯的球迷。

So I have high hopes, Um, pleased with where they are now, and hopefully we'll see where they are at all Star time.

所以我對他們寄予厚望，嗯，很高興他們現在的狀態，希望我們能看到他們在所有明星時間的狀態。

If they're there, then maybe there's a chance Thio do well better than anybody thought.

如果他們在那裡，那麼也許有機會Thio做得比任何人都好。

But you always like to see your old team do well, particularly in New York.

但你總是喜歡看到你的老團隊做得好，尤其是在紐約。

That was a very political answer, Senator.

這是一個非常政治化的回答，參議員。

I appreciate that.

我很感激

A last but not least I want to know who your favorite basketball player is to watch in the MBA right now.

最後但並非最不重要的是，我想知道你現在在MBA中最喜歡看的籃球運動員是誰。

I like Steph Curry.

我喜歡斯蒂芬-庫裡。

I like the way he moves without the ball.

我喜歡他無球移動的方式。

I like the way he uses screens.

我喜歡他使用螢幕的方式。

I like the way he used his hands to push off.

我喜歡他用手推開的方式。

And of course, I like the shots.

當然，我也喜歡這些鏡頭。

I mean, you know, unbelievable release from incredible range.

我的意思是，你知道，令人難以置信的釋放 從令人難以置信的範圍。

So I watched him and I see some of the things that he does out there that reminds me of what was really the best about the old nick teams you hit from out there, right?

所以我看了他，我看到他在外面做的一些事情，讓我想起了你在外面打的那些老尼克隊的真正優點，對吧？

Good.

很好啊

10 ft behind the three point line.

在三分線後10英尺處。

Yeah, but it only counted two points then Rachel.

是啊，但那時候瑞秋只算兩分。

Thanks for watching ESPN on YouTube for live streaming sports and premium content subscribed to ESPN, plus.

感謝在YouTube上觀看ESPN的體育直播和訂閱ESPN的優質內容，加。