You land this role in Book of Mormon and suddenly your life changes.

你在摩門經中找到了這個角色，突然間你的生活發生了變化。

But I'm curious.

但我很好奇

I wanna go back before that when you are in New York and you are struggling.

我想回到之前，當你在紐約，你在掙扎。

And basically that's the character you're playing in the pram.

基本上就是你在嬰兒車裡扮演的角色。

You're playing a struggling performer who hasn't made it yet.

你扮演的是一個還沒有成功的掙扎的表演者。

Ondas and his tending bar.

奧達斯和他的打理酒吧。

What kind of jobs did you have in in in in New York before you made it?

在你成功之前，你在紐約做了什麼工作？

Well, I was.

嗯，我是。

I was always a good interview.

我一直都是一個很好的採訪對象。

I always gave a really good in a job interview.

我在求職面試中總是給人一種很好的。

So if people would think like, oh, he's responsible, he's from the Midwest, like naturally.

所以，如果人們會認為，哦，他是負責任的，他是來自中西部的，就像自然。

And then I would work.

然後我就會工作。

I would work it places for like a day and then get really tired of, like, the idea of a day job.

我會工作它的地方像一天 然後得到真正的厭倦，喜歡， 一天的工作的想法。

So, like the worst one, I mean, by far the worst one was I worked at the gym in Brooklyn Heights and my job.

所以，像最糟糕的一個，我的意思是，到目前為止最糟糕的一個 是我在健身房工作 在布魯克林高地和我的工作。

My shift was at 5 a.m. I had to open the gym and I, um, the night before was out with people, you know, it was like 20 years old, just like knocking him back.

我的下班時間是早上5點，我要開健身房，我，嗯，前一天晚上是跟人出去的，你知道的，就像20年前一樣，就像把他打回來。

And when the time came to open the gym, I just decided, Not Dio.

當開健身房的時候，我就決定，不要迪奧。

And so then I got a very panicked phone call around.

所以後來我接到了一個很慌張的電話，周圍。

I don't know, 5.

我不知道，5。

45 which I ignored because there were people like lined up outside the gym because I had the keys on and I just didn't let them in.

45，我忽略了，因為有 人喜歡排隊 外面的健身房 因為我有鑰匙上 我只是沒有讓他們進來。

And then, Conan, I thought maybe it would be a good cover to then call my boss and say I was like, I'm so sorry I actually moved back to Nebraska.

然後，柯南，我想，也許這將是一個很好的掩護，然後打電話給我的老闆，說我很抱歉，我真的搬回內布拉斯加。

I don't live here anymore.

我不住在這裡了。

So that's it.

所以就這樣了。

That's would be your excuses to Why the reason, I guess because I moved back to Nebraska.

這就是你的藉口，為什麼原因，我想是因為我搬回了內布拉斯加。

But I lived above the gym.

但我住在健身房上面。

I actually my dorm was above the gym, so I lived in constant panic that I was going to run into someone, and I really did it very dramatically.

其實我的宿舍就在體育館上面，所以我一直生活在驚恐中，以為會撞到人，我真的很戲劇性的撞到了。

Like I was having some sort of like, you know, real crisis that I had to go home and and all the while I was just, like, drunken, a gay piano bar and was not just didn't want to go, I just got So it's a problem Because if anyone sees you, why aren't you in Nebraska?

就像我有某種喜歡，你知道，真正的危機，我不得不回家，而所有的時間，我只是一樣，喝醉了，一個同志鋼琴酒吧，是不只是不想去，我只是得到了，所以這是一個問題，因為如果有人看到你，你為什麼不在內布拉斯加州？

And then you have to explain it.

然後你要解釋一下。

You have a private jet that gets you back forth even though you have no money.

你有一架私人飛機，即使你沒有錢，也能讓你來回奔波。

I'm just getting my stuff.

我只是在拿我的東西。

I just needed to unpack or pack up my things because I left in such a hurry.

我只是因為走得太匆忙，所以需要解開行李或收拾東西。

Yeah, I did not quite a bit.

是的，我沒有相當多的。

I would I would leave jobs like that because I think, like at my core, I knew that I wanted to be an actor, and I knew I wanted to perform.

我會我會離開這樣的工作，因為我想，像在我的核心，我知道，我想成為一個演員，我知道我想執行。

So, like the idea of a day job was like a riel hurdle for me, and I know that's not, you know, the case for most people.

所以，像白天工作的想法 就像一個瑞爾障礙對我來說， 我知道這不是，你知道， 大多數人的情況。

But I had a really chip on my shoulder about Well, I can't do this.

但是，我有一個真正的芯片在我的肩膀上 關於嗯，我不能這樣做。

I was a host for one night at a place called Nacho Mama's by Columbia University, and I just I like at a certain point, people kept coming in and I was like, I can't so I just went to the bathroom for like an hour.

我在哥倫比亞大學旁的一個叫Nacho Mama's的地方做了一個晚上的主持人，我只是... ...我喜歡在某一個點上，人們不斷地進來，我就像，我不能，所以我只是去了一個小時的衛生間。

Um, which is to be fair, which to be fair, a lot of people do it.

嗯，這是要公平的，這是要公平的，很多人都這樣做。

Nacho Mama's It's true.

納喬媽媽的 這是真的。

It's very true.

這是非常真實的。

But I couldn't even handle it for one night.

但我連一個晚上都應付不過來。

I was like There's too many people.

我當時想，有太多的人。

I can't see people.

我看不到人。

I'm in the weeds.

我在草叢中。

I'm in the weeds.

我在草叢中。

Alright, So fortunately for you, things worked out because I think if you had had to make it at a real job, I'm not saying what you do is in a real job.

好吧，所以幸運的是，你的事情工作了，因為我認為，如果你不得不使它在一個真正的工作，我不是說你做什麼是在一個真正的工作。

But I'm including myself.

但我是包括我自己在內的。

I think you and I aren't cut out for the for the legitimate world.

我想你和我都不適合在合法的世界裡工作。

No, no.

不，不。

I have no marketable skills in terms of helping people or like doing a service like I just don't Yeah, no, I I've always thought that if I had been born at any other time in history, I'd have been when when people needed to know how to build a stone wall or go plant crops, they would've just killed me immediately because that would just be this random wise ass that was consuming food and saying stupid things in the corner.

我沒有任何市場化的技能，在幫助人們或喜歡做服務，就像我只是不 是的，不，我，我一直在想，如果我出生在任何其他時間在歷史上，我會一直當人們需要知道如何建立一個石牆或去種植莊稼，他們會剛剛殺了我立即，因為這將只是這個隨機的聰明的屁股，是消耗食物和說愚蠢的事情在角落裡。

And they have just taken a stone and killed me.

他們就這樣拿著石頭把我打死了。

It's true.

這是真的。

It's true.

是真的