Is that the bigger indictment?

這是更大的起訴書嗎？

Yeah, a couple of our number one.

是啊，我們的幾個頭號人物。

Um I think, you know, there's a part of me.

嗯，我想，你知道，有我的一部分。

I looked at two ways, like Kyrie know that somebody probably took a picture of him.

我看了兩個方面，比如凱里知道可能有人拍了他的照片。

I mean, does he care, right?

我的意思是，他在乎嗎，對嗎？

I don't I don't know the reasoning.

我不我不知道這個道理。

I can assume Black Kyrie hasn't played because of things that potentially have happened in our country.

我可以認為黑凱里沒有出場是因為我們國家可能發生的事情。

And he feels strongly about that.

而他對此感受強烈。

If that is the case, um, so that's one aspect.

如果是這樣，嗯，所以這是一個方面。

Maybe just doesn't care.

也許只是不在乎。

Maybe it is.

也許是的

You know, a lot of this for Kyrie is maybe him say this is what I'm standing for.

你知道，很多這對凱里來說，也許他說這就是我的立場。

These air principles.

這些空氣原則。

I live my life, and this is what I want to do.

我過我的生活，這就是我想做的事。

So it is where it is on.

所以它在哪裡就在哪裡。

Then there's another part of me that looks at it and, like this also continues to propel the issue, though, right, like that's why there's a trust issue with people.

然後我還有一部分人看，像這個也是繼續推進這個問題，不過，對吧，像這就是為什麼人與人之間有信任問題。

That's why there's a trust issue with the media.

這就是為什麼媒體存在信任問題。

All these narratives starts spinning away, and there's a ton of speculation and look a part of that Kyrie Sure, because he's not the one properly articulating what the reason of him stepping away has been.

所有這些敘述都開始旋轉開來，有大量的猜測和看一部分，凱里肯定，因為他不是一個正確的闡述他離開的原因是什麼。

But it kind of feeds into it.

但這也是一種饋贈。

So I I gotta be honest with you.

所以我... ...我得跟你說實話。

I'm disoriented with this whole thing.

我對這整件事感到迷惑不解。

I have no idea.

我不知道。

I feel so bad for Steve Nash when Steve Nash has to make comments and says, Hey, look, it's there's a There's an unknown timeline or when Kyrie Irving is going to come back and play, think about the position that puts him.

我為史蒂夫-納什感到難過，當史蒂夫-納什不得不發表評論，並說，嘿，你看，這是有一個有一個未知的時間表或凱里-歐文什麼時候回來打球，想想把他的位置。

And that puts teammates in each and every day when they're being asked about Kyrie Irving, when the attention isn't focused on, Is this team getting better or not?

而這也讓隊友們在每一天被問到凱里-歐文的時候，當人們的關注點不在，這支球隊到底有沒有變得更好？

It just becomes it's not a distraction.

就變成了它不分心。

It just becomes Why is there even a need for that currently happening?

這就變成了為什麼目前還需要這樣做呢？

If you're not saying this is the reason for this is the reason for me not being here because I want to stand up for this now it's speculation and that's problematic, right?

如果你不說這是我不在這裡的原因，因為我現在想站在這裡的原因，這就是猜測，這是有問題的，對吧？

So as the CEO or leader of this team, is he obligated to come out and say why he's not there?

那麼作為這個團隊的CEO或者上司，他有義務出來說他為什麼不在？

I mean, At what point do we put the onus on him?

我的意思是，在什麼時候我們把責任推給他？

And when do the organization hold him accountable?

那組織上什麼時候追究他的責任呢？

I mean, you have to hold him accountable.

我的意思是，你必須讓他負責。

I mean, nobody can speak for Kyrie Irving, but Kyrie Irving And I think when you go through something like this, I would love to know if there is a principle on which Kyrie Irving is decided to stand and stay out for.

我的意思是，沒有人可以為凱里-歐文說話，但凱里-歐文而且我認為當你經歷這樣的事情時，我很想知道，如果有一個原則，凱里-歐文是決定站在和留在外面的。

Because if it is, let's bring attention towards it.

因為如果是這樣，那就請大家關注一下吧。

I think by not saying anything, it becomes it's gonna sound crazy, man.

我覺得什麼都不說，就會變得聽起來很瘋狂，夥計。

If the unselfish thing is to say, Hey, this is why I'm not playing because I want to bring attention towards this.

如果無私的說，嘿，這就是我不玩的原因，因為我想讓大家關注這個。

Then you do that.

那你就去做吧

You say what you're bringing attention towards, but it almost seems like it's the reverse, it seems like, because he's not coming out and saying this is why I'm not playing all the attention.

你說你把注意力往什麼地方帶，但是幾乎好像是反過來的，好像是，因為他沒有出來說這是我為什麼不玩所有的注意力。

Then goes on Kyrie, which is not what Kyrie once in the first place.

然後上凱里，這不是凱里曾經的初衷。

So I gotta be honest with me.

所以我得對自己誠實。

I got no idea what the hell is going on.

我不知道這到底是怎麼回事。

I am flabbergasted countless times and this is this is somebody.

我無數次被忽悠，這就是這就是某人。

It's my favorite player in the league This is somebody that is like a little I mean, he's not a brother to me because we're not even close like that, but one jersey PG from Duke toe another like and I find myself constantly in this world where I'm trying Thio find reason with it, right?

這是我在聯盟中最喜歡的球員這是一個人，就像一個小我的意思是，他不是我的兄弟，因為我們甚至沒有接近這樣，但一個球衣PG從杜克大學到另一個喜歡和我發現自己不斷在這個世界上，我試圖Thio找到理由，對吧？

Find understanding to why Kyrie does what he does.

找到理解凱里為什麼這麼做。

And I can't on this one, man, I can't.

我不能在這一個，男人，我不能。

I hear I hear the exasperation in your voice, and I was going to mention the do connection, obviously.

我聽出我聽出了你聲音裡的氣憤，我本來想提做連接，很明顯。

And for those joining us, J.

而對於加入我們的人來說，J。

Will on with us, um, Malika Andrews and Adrian Will Danowski, both reporting that the league is expected to review videos that we're talking about here that is circulating on social media of a massless Kyrie, Irving and what appears to be a family birthday party.

威爾和我們一起，嗯，馬利卡-安德魯斯和阿德里安-威爾-達諾夫斯基，都報告說，聯盟有望審查我們正在談論的視頻，這是流傳在社交媒體上的一個無massless凱里，歐文和什麼似乎是一個家庭生日聚會。

Hey has missed several games.

哎已經錯過了好幾場比賽。

It's not expected he's going to return this week, and that includes tomorrow night on ESPN at Madison Square Garden against the Knicks, which people circled that game right away, not expected to play in that game.

預計他本週不會復出，包括明晚ESPN在麥迪遜廣場花園對陣尼克斯的比賽，大家馬上圈定了那場比賽，預計不會參加那場比賽。

He's going to miss his fourth straight game tonight as the Nets are playing Denver.

今晚他將連續第四場缺陣，因為網隊要打丹佛。

Um, you mentioned it is it about social issues.

嗯，你提到它是它的社會問題。

Is it about him just being defiant and saying I'm gonna just live my life the way I want?

是關於他只是不顧一切的說我要按照自己的想法去生活嗎？

If I don't feel like playing right now, I'm not going to the responsibility that people put on him is Maura about the size of the contract and the importance to your team than it is that we're trying to force him to be a certain way as a person, because I'm always told, Well, he's different and you have to accept that he's different.

如果我現在感覺不喜歡打球，我不會去人們對他的責任是Maura關於合同的大小和對你的團隊的重要性，而不是我們試圖強迫他成為一個人的某種方式，因為我總是被告知，嗯，他是不同的，你必須接受他的不同。

But I'm sorry.

但我很抱歉

You're also put on a certain stage and you're accepting that stage when you sign a contract.

你也是被放在某個舞臺上，你簽了合同就接受了這個舞臺。

Part of that contract tells you you have to talk to the media, which he first tried to not dio.

那份合同的一部分告訴你，你必須和媒體交談，他先是試圖不dio。

Other part of it is that you have to show up for your team.

其他部分是你必須為你的團隊出現。

He's not doing that right now.

他現在沒有這樣做。

And then on top of it, during a major co vid issue for the league, he's out and about seeing this way, it's all such a bad optic, and I agree with you, Jay.

然後最重要的是，在聯盟的一個重要的co vid問題上，他在外面看到這樣的情況，都是這樣的一個不好的光學，我同意你的觀點，傑伊。

He does need to come out and say something if not to the fans, to the league and his own team and obviously his head coach.

如果不是對球迷，對聯盟和自己的球隊，顯然對他的主教練，他確實需要出來說點什麼。

I mean, if you're Joe, see right now, if you're Sean Marks, hopefully you know what's going on.

我的意思是，如果你是喬，看到現在，如果你是肖恩-馬克斯，希望你知道發生了什麼。

Um, that's problematic within itself, you know what I mean?

嗯，這本身就有問題，你明白我的意思嗎？

Alan, I just said hopefully you know what's going on.

艾倫，我剛才說希望你知道是怎麼回事。

The fact that, like, you know, think about that for a second guy who is Kevin Durant is probably one of the most talented players there is in the league, right?

事實上，就像，你知道，想一想那個傢伙是凱文-杜蘭特可能是聯盟中最有天賦的球員之一，對嗎？

Kevin has his personality in which Kevin's a leader but, like Kevin doesn't get involved in livestock.

凱文有他的個性，其中凱文是一個領導者，但是，像凱文不參與畜牧業。

Kevin loves the hoop.

凱文喜歡這個圈圈。

Kyrie is like that demonstrative voice on this team.

凱里就像這支球隊的那個示範性聲音。

If that naturally propels you to be in a leadership position without maybe you.

如果這樣自然而然地推動你走上領導崗位，沒有也許你。

Hopefully you verbalize that everybody your team.

希望你口頭上說，大家你的團隊。

But if you verbalized that everybody in your team, I don't know why teammates wouldn't just have his back and come out and say what it is or Steve Nasa just say where it is the fact that nobody knows where it is and nobody is willing to say what it is.

但如果你口頭上說你們隊裡的每個人，我不知道為什麼隊友們不願意揹著他出來說是什麼，或者史蒂夫-納薩就說是哪裡的事實，沒有人知道是哪裡，也沒有人願意說是什麼。

It really makes you wonder about how what style of leadership is Kyrie doing it?

這真的讓人很好奇，凱里是怎樣的上司風格？

I don't think that work And that's problematic, Alan, that za major problem.

我不認為工作，這是有問題的，艾倫，這za主要問題。

And that's also mention the fact that the Nets have a losing record right now.

而這也要提到籃網隊現在的戰績是失敗的。

They also aren't winning games, And they were expecting about this morning.

他們也沒有贏得比賽，而他們今天早上還在期待。

We're talking about the Nets with Kevin Durant and career.

我們在談論網隊與凱文-杜蘭特和職業生涯。

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感謝您在YouTube上觀看ESPN的體育直播和優質內容。

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