But, Dan, I just want to start with you quickly.

但是，丹，我只想從你開始，很快。

You covered their NFC championship game a year ago when they got obliterated and you're doing the game this weekend.

你一年前報道過他們的NFC冠軍賽，當時他們被淘汰了，而你這週末又要報道這場比賽。

How different do you see this Packer team from that one?

你覺得這支包裝工隊和那支有什麼不同？

Yeah, I think what he's saying about confidence is true.

是啊，我覺得他說的自信是真的。

And I remember talking to Matt LaFleur at the beginning of this year and asking him about Aaron Rodgers and him telling me he loved where his state of mind was, that he felt like Rogers was in the exact right place mentally going into this season, Obviously this season has borne that out and the confidence has only grown.

而我記得今年年初和馬特-拉弗爾聊過，問他關於亞倫-羅傑斯的事情，他告訴我他很喜歡他的精神狀態，他覺得羅傑斯進入這個賽季後精神狀態完全正確，顯然這個賽季已經證明了這一點，信心也只增不減。

So I think there was always a sense, you know, this is the floor second year that the offense was something that was going to take some time to put together.

所以我認為一直有一種感覺，你知道，這是地板第二年，進攻是需要一些時間來整理的東西。

I remember we talked about it on this show on others last year, but it's coming true and I think we've seen the offense and Aaron Rodgers operated a much higher level.

我記得去年我們在這個節目中談到了它在其他人身上，但它正在成為現實，我認為我們已經看到了進攻和阿倫羅傑斯操作了更高的水準。

As a result, I think they feel a lot better going into this game isn't that fascinating, Dominique, because we spoke so much about the psychology off Aaron Rodgers when they drafted his replacement and everything else.

是以，我認為他們感覺好多了，進入這場比賽並不是那麼迷人，多米尼克，因為我們談到了這麼多關於心理學的關閉阿倫羅傑斯，當他們起草他的替代者和其他一切。

Now, here he is in a great place, and let's talk about what another championship could mean for his legacy.

現在，他在這裡有一個偉大的地方，讓我們來談談另一個冠軍對他的遺產可能意味著什麼。

He is an all time great player, but a second championship might change a lot.

他是一個偉大的球員，但第二個冠軍可能會改變很多。

Yeah, I think that he might be under the most pressure.

是的，我想他可能是壓力最大的。

We talked about this a couple weeks ago because this is a legacy defining kind of legacy elevating type of run for him in season.

我們在幾周前談到了這個問題，因為這是他在賽季中的一種遺產定義型的遺產提升型的運行。

He could end up being the regular season MVP, get his second Super Bowl win, which then puts him on par with Manning in Elway, also potentially get a Super Bowl MVP.

他最終可能會成為常規賽MVP，拿到第二個超級碗冠軍，那麼他就會和曼寧在埃爾維一樣，也有可能拿到超級碗MVP。

All that is great, but you put on top of it that he may have to go through Tom Brady and or Drew Brees and then, potentially, the Youngun Patrick Mahomes in the Super Bowl.

所有這些都很好，但你把它放在上面，他可能必須通過湯姆布雷迪和或德魯佈雷斯，然後，有可能在超級碗中的楊雲帕特里克馬霍姆斯。

That we all like to talk about is potentially being better than him.

我們都喜歡談論的是有可能比他更好。

This is the thing that will change the way we think about him going forward.

這是會改變我們對他未來的看法的事情。

I know we all have a ton of respect for him now, But as time goes on, we get further and further away from his career.

我知道我們現在都很尊重他，但隨著時間的推移，我們離他的事業越來越遠。

We're gonna look at those numbers and the numbers that we first look at.

我們要看一下這些數字，我們先看一下這些數字。

How many's for quarterbacks, at least?

至少有多少個四分衛的？

How many Super Bowls did you win?

你贏了幾個超級碗？

And if he could get to like some of those other guys, I think it will change the way that he is remembered.

如果他能喜歡上其他一些人，我想這將改變人們對他的印象。

I think that's right.

我想這是對的。

We just saw Peyton Manning there, who won his second in his final year.

我們剛剛在那裡看到了佩頓-曼寧，他在最後一年贏得了他的第二個。

John Elway, who won his two championships in the last two years of his career.

約翰-艾爾維，他在職業生涯的最後兩年贏得了他的兩個冠軍。

What do you think it means to him?

你覺得這對他意味著什麼？

D would well, listen, I agree a lot with Dominic said.

D會好，聽，我很同意多米尼克說的。

I think when you look when we think of Aaron Rodgers, he's to me.

我想當你看當我們想到阿倫-羅傑斯時，他對我。

He's the most talented pass of the football of this generation.

他是這一代足球最有天賦的傳。

But you always look at his career and you would say Man, he's put up some eye popping stats and all those type of things, but he only has one Super Bowl to account for all of that back in 2011.

但你總是看著他的職業生涯，你會說，夥計，他的數據很吸引眼球，所有這些類型的東西，但他只有一個超級碗，在2011年的時候，所有的一切都可以解釋。

Well, if he if he goes through this road and he beats these quarterbacks that the line that are potentially lined up and he gets the Wednesday NFL MVP this year.

好吧，如果他如果他通過這條路，他擊敗這些四分衛，這條線是潛在的排隊，他得到了週三NFL今年的MVP。

To me now that elevates him in the in the line of where Peyton Manning is.

對我來說，現在這提升了他在佩頓-曼寧所在的行。

That's That's where I think this whole postseason it's shaping up for.

這就是我認為這整個季後賽的發展方向。

For Aaron Rodgers, this is the best defense.

對於阿倫-羅傑斯來說，這是最好的防守。

They will see if they're able to like them up.

他們會看看自己是否能夠喜歡上他們。

Then I think what he's basically saying is nobody is going to stop him and I don't I don't think that's so crazy.

那麼我想他的意思是沒有人可以阻止他 我不... ...我不認為這很瘋狂。

What do you think?

你覺得呢？

He what the problem with that green is You still got the other side of the ball.

那果嶺的問題是什麼？ 你還有另一邊的球。

Like Who's scared of Jared golf?

比如誰怕賈裡德高爾夫？

You know what I mean?

你知道我的意思嗎？

Like, yeah, like if an Rogers dominate the Los Angeles Rams defense, there are teams in the NFC right now, that arm or complete than the Los Angeles Rams.

就像，是的，就像如果一個羅傑斯主宰洛杉磯公羊隊的防守，在NFC現在，有球隊的手臂或完整比洛杉磯公羊隊。

So listen, I gotta I gotta ride with Dominique on this one.

所以，聽著，我得... 我得和多米尼克一起騎在這一個。

I don't know what the hell speeds was drinking over for show, but he was definitely feeling themselves that one.

我不知道速度喝過的酒是什麼鬼東西在作秀，但他絕對是感覺到自己那個。

I demand that the producers never do this split screen with me and Woody again because I don't know whatever one of your daughters is doing your makeup.

我要求製片人不要再拍我和伍迪的分鏡 因為我不知道你的女兒是誰在給你化妝。

She got your face beat, and it makes me look shiny and greasy.

她把你的臉給打爛了，讓我看起來油光水滑。

And I don't like I don't want split squeeze with, so I get a real make up artist here.

而且我不喜歡我不希望分裂擠壓與，所以我得到一個真正的化妝師在這裡。

Hold on.

等一下

Let me tell you something.

讓我告訴你一些事情。

I did my own makeup.

我自己化的妝。

You can U s.

你可以U s。

Oh, yes.

哦，是的。

Yeah, I do.

是的，我有。

My own makeup.

我自己的化妝品。

You gotta do tutorials.

你得做教程。

You need a YouTube channel.

你需要一個YouTube頻道。

Sorry.

對不起，我不知道

You with that?

你有這個嗎？

Not only that, but I'll just say it again.

不僅如此，我還是要說一遍。

Cindy, can we just take a single shot of Damien?

辛迪 我們能不能給達米安拍一張照片?

Woody, your house is the most spectacular place I've ever seen in my entire life.

伍迪，你的房子是我這輩子見過的最壯觀的地方。

I mean, the combination of the piano you got the Sistine Ceiling behind you over there.

我是說，鋼琴的組合... ...你身後的西斯廷天花板就在那邊。

This is like the seventh different huge room that we've seen you in since the pandemic began.

這就像第七個不同的巨大的房間，我們已經看到你在自從流行病開始。

We are going, Nick, we're doing this show live from the woody training.

我們要去了，尼克，我們要在木質訓練場做現場直播。

No, no, we're great.

不，不，我們很好。

I've been trying.

我一直在嘗試。

I've been telling you all greeny.

我都跟你說過了，綠子。

I've been telling you all when we're gonna shoot the show over here.

我一直在跟你們說我們什麼時候要在這裡拍戲。

I got no, no, please.

我沒有，沒有，請。

House is beautiful, but we're not doing nothing there until he get his Internet fix your wife.

房子是漂亮，但我們不會做任何事情有 直到他得到他的互聯網修復你的妻子。

You get your WiFi game good right now.

你現在就把你的WiFi遊戲做好。

Well, let me try and get back to the football.

好吧，讓我試著回到足球上。

We're talking about Aaron Rodgers against the Rams.

我們說的是亞倫-羅傑斯對公羊隊的比賽。

This matchup, it's your game.

這場比賽，是你的遊戲。

You're covering it.

你在掩飾它。

That was Aaron Rodgers lost in the NFC championship game last year because the team sort of ran right over.

那是阿倫-羅傑斯去年在NFC總決賽中輸了，因為球隊算是直接跑過來了。

How different is this team this year?

今年的這支球隊有多大的不同？

I think it's a lot different.

我認為這是一個很大的不同。

We heard from Aaron earlier in the show about confidence, right?

我們在剛才的節目中聽到了亞倫關於信心的介紹，對吧？

Like the last year they were still putting things together on offense.

就像去年他們在進攻中還在拼命。

It was the first year under Matt LaFleur.

這是馬特-拉弗勒上司的第一年。

It was Aaron Rodgers first year in a new system, and we talked about it as it went along that it's going to take time.

這是阿倫-羅傑斯在新體系中的第一年，我們在進行中談到，這需要時間。

And obviously a lot of things have clicked for them this year.

而很明顯，今年他們的很多事情都很順利。

Mentally, Aaron Rodgers seems to be in a great place this year.

精神上，阿倫-羅傑斯今年的狀態似乎很好。

There's a lot of talk all off season.

整個休賽期都有很多話題。

Would you be mad, etcetera, etcetera, But everything seems to have been working, and they just look a lot different.

你會不會生氣，等等，等等，但一切似乎都已經成功了，他們只是看起來有很多不同。

Uh, now, look, they did win in this round last year, right there in the NFC championship game that they lost to the Niners, so it's not as if they'd be clearing some major hurdle.

去年他們確實在這輪比賽中贏了 就在他們輸給九指山隊的NFC冠軍賽中 所以他們並不是要清除什麼重大的障礙

But the team does have a different feel about it.

但球隊確實有不同的感覺。

And coming off the only team in the conference I gotta buy that matters well, Nick, if I could quickly circle back to you in a serious way.

而從會議中唯一的球隊下來，我得買的東西很重要，尼克，如果我可以很快地繞回你的嚴肅方式。

Another thing Orlowski said here the other day was this was the worst draw that Rodgers could have gotten that he would have.

前幾天奧洛夫斯基在這裡說的另一件事是，這是羅傑斯能得到的最差的引援，他也會這樣做。

He would like the matchup better against either of the other two teams who are on the other side of the draw on the NFC based upon the defense and particularly Aaron, Donald is that Does that make sense to you?

他更希望對陣其他兩支球隊中的任何一支，他們在防守尤其是阿倫的基礎上，抽到了NFC的另一邊，唐納德就是這樣你覺得有意義嗎？

No, he was right.

不，他是對的。

It was early.

當時還早。

It was before they started doing their NFL live drinking.

那是在他們開始做NFL直播喝酒之前。

They were still saying at that point because that made that made sense.

他們當時還在說，因為這樣才有意義。

I agree with that and I think we should also credit Matt LaFleur for their offensive improvement because he's gotten better as we see Aaron Donald.

我同意這一點，我認為我們也應該將他們的進攻進步歸功於Matt LaFleur，因為他變得更好，因為我們看到Aaron Donald。

The biggest problem that LaFleur is gonna have toe figure out an answer for so he's gotten better in his second year is not all about comfortable being comfortable as players and confident his players.

最大的問題，拉弗勒爾要想出一個答案，所以他在第二年變得更好，並不是所有的舒適是舒適的球員和自信他的球員。

It's about the coaches getting better and putting them in the right position.

這關係到教練員的進步，讓他們處於合適的位置。

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感謝您在YouTube上觀看ESPN的體育直播和優質內容。

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