And why do I say that?

我為什麼這麼說呢？

Because I think we were all fighting to get ventilators and we were all fighting to get tests and we were all fighting to get reactive is and we were all, you know, chasing each other to see who was first and and maybe the same thing is happening in some sort of way with vaccination.

因為我認為我們都在爭取得到呼吸機，我們都在爭取得到測試，我們都在爭取得到反應，我們都在，你知道，互相追逐，看看誰是第一個，也許同樣的事情正在發生在某種方式與疫苗接種。

But something that I think has been learned and that has until now, worked in the in the way that the world is preparing for vaccination is the Kovacs strategy, because Kovacs has called the multilateral system so that high income mitt income, low income countries are all together and we can gain in in, um in terms off the size of our economies so that the countries with bigger income with their buying, allow to have a major reduction in the price of vaccines for low income countries.

但我認為已經學到了一些東西，直到現在，在世界準備接種疫苗的方式中起作用的是Kovacs戰略，因為Kovacs稱之為多邊體系，所以高收入國家和低收入國家都在一起，我們可以在我們的經濟規模方面獲得收益，所以收入較高的國家通過購買，允許低收入國家的疫苗價格大幅下降。

I see that with optimism, but let's also be clear.

我樂觀地看到，但我們也要清楚。

The response from Kovacs, which is very important, has limitations in terms of the size that means that countries will have to go through Kovacs.

科瓦奇的迴應，這是非常重要的，但在規模上有侷限性，這意味著各國將不得不通過科瓦奇。

But at the same time they have to goto bilateral negotiations on obviously, in terms of the bilateral negotiations.

但與此同時，在雙邊談判方面，他們顯然必須進行雙邊談判。

There's some weaknesses in low income countries and I think we all need to find a solution and that can be dilled inside the u.

低收入國家有一些弱點，我想我們都需要找到解決的辦法，這可以在u裡面挖。

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It can be dealed in the World Bank can be dealed in the World Health Organization, you name it.

可以在世界銀行處理可以在世界衛生組織處理，你說了算。

But the most important thing is to understand that the only way the world can have, uh, herd immunity is once we have all gone through a massive, universal and equitable system of vaccination.

但最重要的是要明白，世界上唯一能擁有，呃，群體免疫力的方法是，一旦我們都經歷了一個大規模的，普遍的和公平的疫苗接種系統。