Right now?

現在？

It's not tough for May.

對梅來說，這並不難。

I think it's Lamar Jackson.

我覺得是拉馬爾-傑克遜

He's the player that I trust the most in this division at all times.

他是我在這個分區任何時候都最信任的球員。

He has this team on his back, so I understand that you could be critical of many things that he does, but he does.

他背靠著這支球隊，所以我理解你可以對他做的很多事情提出批評，但他確實如此。

He plays the game differently than a lot of quarterbacks, but he's by far the best quarterback in his division, and I don't think very many people would argue with you on that point.

他打球的方式和很多四分衛不一樣，但他是目前他所在的分區最好的四分衛，我想沒有多少人會在這一點上和你爭論。

I think the only reasonable pushback is that he hasn't had success in the playoffs, but I don't think that's because of him.

我認為唯一合理的反駁是他在季後賽中沒有取得成功，但我認為這不是因為他。

Necessarily.

必須的。

The game he played last year wasn't perfect, but it was not abysmal.

去年他打的比賽並不完美，但並不糟糕。

I think Lamar Jackson is the best player he's taken somewhat of, Ah, regression this season, statistically.

我認為拉瑪爾-傑克遜是最好的球員，他有點採取的，啊，本賽季的退步，數據上。

But the what he means to this offense hasn't changed.

但他對這次進攻的意義並沒有改變。

So I think as as well as Baker's doing, it's predicated on their running attack.

所以，我覺得和貝克的表現一樣，都是以他們的跑動攻擊為前提的。

It's predicated on their receivers and tight ends.

它的前提是他們的接球手和接球手。

It's not Baker.

這不是貝克。

They've tried to simplify the game as much as possible, tried to Kurt Cousins this offense in a way that they don't ask a whole lot from Baker.

他們試圖儘可能地簡化比賽，試圖以一種他們對貝克要求不高的方式來庫爾特-考辛斯這種進攻。

And the same thing is true, Frankly, of Ben Roethlisberger is, they try to surround him with a lot of great playmakers, and he makes short completions in hopes that they could turn it into something bigger.

同樣的事情是真實的，坦率地說，本-羅斯伯格是，他們試圖圍繞著他與許多偉大的球員，他使短完成希望他們可以把它變成更大的東西。

And they have that outstanding defense to help him.

而且他們還有那出色的防守來幫助他。

That's not the same situation in Baltimore, especially now with the injuries to their secondary.

巴爾的摩的情況就不一樣了，尤其是現在他們二線隊的傷病。

They are relying on Lamar Jackson, Mawr and Mawr, and he seems to be coming up, at least in the last game.

他們依靠的是拉馬爾-傑克遜，莫爾和莫爾，他似乎要來了，至少在最後一場比賽中。

He seems to be coming last couple games.

他似乎來了最後幾場比賽。

Honestly, he seems to be coming up bigger and bigger, though he hasn't done it all season, He's doing it at this moment as they head into the playoffs.

老實說，他似乎越來越大了，雖然他整個賽季都沒有做到，但他在這一刻做到了，因為他們進入了季後賽。

I don't know how you could argue for anybody else in this division.

我不知道你怎麼能為這個部門的其他人辯解。

Unfortunately, we agree about this.

不幸的是，我們同意這一點。

I think it is Lamar, but I have a few things to say about that before I I tell you my my thoughts about the other two guys, number one Lamar Jackson.

我認為是拉瑪，但在我告訴你我對另外兩個人的看法之前，我有幾句話要說，一號拉瑪-傑克遜。

I do trust him the most and I saw what he did against the Browns and that was that showed that really showed something, you know when they needed him to.

我確實最信任他，我看到了他對布朗隊的表現，那是那顯示了真正的東西，你知道當他們需要他的時候。

He got back out on the field on fourth down and and and touches the ball and boom touchdown pass.

他又回到了場上，在第四次進攻中，和和碰球，轟隆隆的觸地傳球。

First thing on 4th, 4th and 5 and then four completions, right to get him in field goal range after Baker marched him right down the field.

第一件事就是在第4次，第4次和第5次的時候，然後四次完成，就在貝克把他運到場邊後，讓他進入了射門範圍。

Um, that that showed some stuff.

嗯，這表明一些東西。

But when you say, who do you trust the most most or who do you have the most faith in?

但當你說，你最信任誰，或者說你最相信誰？

It's not just that Lamar hasn't won in the playoffs.

不僅僅是拉瑪爾在季後賽中沒有贏過。

Dominique Lamar has beaten a lot of good teams in his career.

多米尼克-拉馬爾在職業生涯中擊敗過很多優秀的球隊。

It's not that like, well, they know how to defend him now, and there's nothing he can do.

並不是說像，他們現在知道怎麼保護他了，他也無能為力。

No, he's beaten very good teams, you know.

不，他擊敗過非常優秀的球隊，你知道的。

Ah, lot of them already, but that's not really the issue To me.

啊，已經有很多了，但對我來說，這不是真正的問題。

The issue is the two playoff games.

問題是兩場季後賽。

Yes, because if you wanna win a Super Bowl, you must win in the playoffs.

是的，因為如果你想贏得超級碗，你必須在季後賽中獲勝。

If you're in the A F C North, you must beat the Ben Roethlisberger Steelers, and if you're in the A f C, you must beat the Chiefs.

如果你在A F C北區，你必須擊敗本-羅斯伯格鋼人隊，如果你在A f C，你必須擊敗酋長隊。

He's oh in six in those games.

他在這些比賽中六場比賽中哦。

So those specific games where I'm like those games, I'm really look okay.

所以那些特定的遊戲，我就像那些遊戲一樣，我真的看起來還不錯。

Now I'm watching Lamar.

現在我在看拉瑪。

He's played his some of his worst football, in fact, and I think that is until I see him beat those teams.

事實上，他已經打出了他最糟糕的足球，我認為這是在我看到他擊敗那些球隊之前。

I'll reserve judgment about whether I can trust him with the money on the line, Even if it this moment, I would take him in the division.

我將保留判斷是否能信任他的錢，即使是這一刻，我也會選擇他的師。

Now, I'll tell you this.

現在，我告訴你。

I trust Baker Mayfield more than Ben Roethlisberger right now.

我現在更信任貝克-梅菲爾德，而不是本-羅斯伯格。

I didn't think I would say that earlier this season, but I trust Baker more than Roethlisberger.

本賽季早些時候我沒想到我會這麼說，但我比羅斯伯格更信任貝克。

Roethlisberger can't throw the ball down the field when he tries.

羅斯伯格在嘗試投籃的時候，不能把球投到場上。

It's usually a bad idea on DWhite.

在DWhite上通常是個壞主意。

You keep throwing those short passes.

你一直在扔那些短傳。

Eventually, guys, we're gonna figure that out and start taking the ball away.

最終，夥計們，我們會想出辦法，並開始把球拿走。

As you have seen Baker, Mayfield, whatever you want to say, they simplified things.

正如你所看到的貝克、梅菲爾德，不管你想說什麼，他們都簡化了事情。

Whatever.

管他呢

Baker is one of those guys who is highly dependent on his situation and coaching.

貝克是那種高度依賴自身情況和教練的人。

That's most NFL quarterbacks.

這是大多數NFL四分衛。

Very few Mahomes is, and Rodgers and Brady, who are gonna be great anywhere, is just the degree of their accomplishment, where coaching and situation matters but they were going to be great, no matter what.

很少有馬霍姆斯是這樣的，而羅傑斯和布雷迪，他們在任何地方都會成為偉大的人，只是他們的成就程度，教練和形勢很重要，但他們無論如何都會成為偉大的人。

The most guys are not independently great, and Baker falls into the most guys category.

最多的人不是獨立的偉大，貝克屬於最多的人。

But he had four head coaches in a little over two seasons to start his career head coaches, and they were all bad.

但他在兩個多賽季的時間裡，有四位主教練開始了他的職業生涯主教練，而且他們都很糟糕。

Hugh Jackson, worst head coach in the league.

休-傑克遜，聯盟中最差的主教練。

Um, Greg Williams just made a play call so bad he's out of the NFL, probably for good.

格雷格・威廉姆斯剛做了一個很糟糕的決定 他可能永遠退出NFL了。

Freddy Kitchens was a disaster the first time he gave him a good head coach the first time he's looking really good.

弗雷迪-基欽斯第一次給他一個好的主教練是個災難，第一次他看起來真的很好。

So at this moment, I'll take Baker over Roethlisberger.

所以此時此刻，我會選擇貝克而不是羅斯伯格。

Yeah, I mean, it's tough to argue.

是啊，我是說，這很難爭辯。

Like I think Baker is doing well and I picked them to make the playoffs this year.

就像我認為貝克做得很好，我選擇他們今年進入季後賽。

I'm impressed with how Baker is playing, but when you get down into the nitty gritty of analogy of analyzing what's actually happening like, Baker is making plays and I think that Baltimore game is one example where he stepped up and he kind of put the team on his back for a short period of time.

我對貝克的表現印象深刻，但當你深入到細枝末節的類比分析實際發生的事情一樣，貝克是在做戲，我認為巴爾的摩的比賽就是一個例子，他站了出來，他有點讓球隊在短時間內背水一戰。

So I think he deserves credit for that.

所以，我認為他是值得肯定的。

But let's not act like we haven't seen Ben Roethlisberger do that multiple times.

但我們不要裝作沒有見過本-羅斯伯格多次這樣做。

If you look from game to game, who has more pressure and who delivers more often?

如果從一場場比賽來看，誰的壓力更大，誰送出的次數更多？

I think it's Ben Roethlisberger through the course of this season, and I'm not gonna boil all this down to recency bias because band is playing poorly right now and Baker is on a pretty good run.

我認為是本-羅斯伯格通過本賽季的過程，我不會把這一切歸結為過去的偏見，因為樂隊現在打得很差，而貝克的表現相當不錯。

I think when you watch these games, who is asked to make the plays in big time situations more often and who comes through more often, I think the answer is definitely Ben Roethlisberger over Baker Mayfield, and I'm glad that we don't have much to argue about the the Lamar Jackson situation.

我認為當你觀看這些比賽時，誰被要求在大的情況下更經常地發揮作用，誰更經常地通過，我認為答案肯定是本-羅斯伯格而不是貝克-梅菲爾德，我很高興我們對拉馬爾-傑克遜的情況沒有太多的爭論。

I'm glad we agree on that, but it still feels like you're making it seem like it's closer than it should be.

我很高興我們達成了共識，但感覺你還是讓它看起來比它應該更接近。

And you're pointing out these big games as if I understand he should win in those.

而你卻指出這些重要的比賽，好像我明白他應該在這些比賽中獲勝。

You want the team to win in those situations.

你希望球隊在這些情況下能贏。

But it all doesn't fall on Lamar and they played the chief's close a couple of years ago.

但這一切並沒有落在拉瑪爾身上，他們在幾年前就打出了首領的險情。

They played the chief's close and beating the Steelers without Ben Roethlisberger.

他們在沒有本-羅斯伯格的情況下，打出了首領的險情並擊敗了鋼人隊。

It's tough to do when Ben Roethlisberger isn't playing So when the Ravens were at their strongest, Ben Roethlisberger wasn't there.

當本-羅斯伯格不打球的時候，很難做到這一點，所以當烏鴉隊最強的時候，本-羅斯伯格不在那裡。

They definitely would have beaten them last year.

去年他們肯定會戰勝他們。

In that situation, the Ravens team has been decimated by injuries first, and then four different strands of the Corona virus coronavirus goes through their locker room.

在這種情況下，烏鴉隊先是被傷病摧殘，然後四股不同的電暈病毒冠狀病毒在他們的更衣室裡穿梭。

They're having not the perfect season, but Lamar is putting them on their back.

他們本賽季的表現並不完美，但拉馬爾卻讓他們背水一戰。

I think the question is pretty simple.

我覺得這個問題很簡單。

The answer is pretty simple.

答案很簡單。

And given that I'm from Baltimore, you look at Lamar Jackson and the Ravens are Drew Hill and he's Cisco.

而鑑於我來自巴爾的摩，你看拉馬爾-傑克遜和烏鴉是德魯-希爾，他是思科。

They are nothing without him.

沒有他，他們什麼都不是。

You look at Baker Mayfield.

你看貝克-梅菲爾德。

It's closer to Joe to see.

這是更接近喬看。

And he's like, Mr Dalven, he's not Casey or Jo Jo.

他說，達爾文先生，他不是凱西或喬喬。

That offense is built on the backs of that running game And that offensive line.

攻勢是建立在跑壘和進攻線的基礎上的。

And that's when you take one person out of situation.

而這時，你就會把一個人帶出狀況。

There is on Lee one Cisco in that whole division.

在李上有一個思科在那整個司。

The rest of them.

其餘的人。

What's your point of them?

你對他們有什麼看法？

You want somebody else?

你想找別人？

Woody?

伍迪？

Mark, they are not the man.

馬克，他們不是那個人。

Where you gonna go through every you're going through?

你要去哪裡經歷每一個你正在經歷的？

You're going through every R and B group.

你正在通過每一個R和B組。

Look, what you're pointing out is Lamar Jackson is differently.

你看，你指出的是拉馬爾-傑克遜不同。

Talented Lamar Jackson.

才華橫溢的拉馬爾-傑克遜。

We're talking about who's the most talented Baker Mayfield's okay, like he's got some talent, but he's not Oh my God!

我們在討論誰是最有天賦的貝克-梅菲爾德，他還行，好像他有一些天賦，但他不是哦，我的上帝！

And Ben Roethlisberger at this stage in his career.

而本-羅斯伯格在他職業生涯的這個階段。

Also, Lamar Jackson's clearly the best he's got the most.

另外，拉馬爾-傑克遜顯然是他最擅長的。

Now I got to see him do it with the chips on the line, and I pointed out where in those games against those three different in those three different situations, he's Oh, in six and he's almost undefeated the rest of the time.

現在，我看到他在籌碼上做了，我指出在那些比賽中，在那三個不同的情況下，他在那三個不同的情況下，他是哦，在六個，他幾乎不敗的其餘時間。

That tells me something.

這告訴我一些事情。

I thought the Browns game was a good step in that direction, but I still reserve judgment.

我認為布朗隊的比賽在這個方向上邁出了很好的一步，但我仍然保留判斷。

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