I can already tell you 2021.

我已經可以告訴你2021年。

Ohio State's coming out of the Big 10.

俄亥俄州立大學從10大聯盟中脫穎而出。

Clemson's coming out of the IPCC.

Clemson的走出IPCC。

Alabama's coming out of the SEC and I could tell you 2023 our postseason.

阿拉巴馬從SEC出來，我可以告訴你2023年我們的季後賽。

Isas bad as there is and we have got to figure out a system that opens up opportunities 98 or 99% of the participants realized they don't have a chance before the season starts that we've got to look at this 2020 year and realize we have to tweak the system really interesting.

是糟糕的，因為有，我們必須找出一個系統，打開機會98或99％的參與者意識到他們沒有機會在賽季開始之前，我們必須看看這個2020年，並意識到我們必須調整系統真的很有趣。

And, of course, Kirk Herbstreit out.

當然，Kirk Herbstreit也出局了。

No one needs me to tell you who is about a significant of voices.

沒有人需要我告訴你誰是一個重要的聲音。

The sport has.

這項運動已。

So Paul and Heather and Trevor are back with us here.

保羅、希瑟和特雷弗又回來了

Paul.

保羅

Paul, Let me just start with you.

保羅，讓我從你開始說起。

When you hear Kirk Herbstreit say that, what is the first reaction you have?

當你聽到Kirk Herbstreit這麼說，你的第一反應是什麼？

Well, he's right, and the playoffs needs to be expanded because otherwise it's going to be primarily the same for every year, and it's bigger than just that.

嗯，他說的沒錯，季後賽需要擴大規模，因為不然的話，主要是每年都是一樣的，而且規模還不止於此。

It zits attracting the country at a time when the competition is the fiercest greeny the weekend of the C F P Championship game.

在競爭最激烈的綠茵場週末C F P冠軍賽的時候，它zits吸引了全國。

It's also the same weekend is the NFL wild card.

同樣的週末也是NFL的外卡。

You were gonna tweak it?

你要調整它？

How would you tweak it?

你會怎麼調整？

Much respect for her Be couldn't disagree.

很尊重她貝不能不同意。

Mawr.

Mawr.

If you expand the playoff just to get more people in the same four are gonna be in the final four anyhow.

如果你擴大季後賽的規模，只是為了讓更多的人進入同樣的四個人，無論如何都會進入決賽。

If you want to change that, beat him.

如果你想改變這種狀況，就打他。

Clemson.

克萊姆森

When Dubow took over on Lee won one championship in their first six years.

當杜波接手李的時候，在他們的前六年裡，贏得了一個冠軍。

Then they ripped off five in a row.

然後他們連撕了五張。

You wanna be better, do what Dubow did at Clemson.

你想做得更好，就像Dubow在Clemson做的那樣。

Now I would expand it to eight teams, but it's not because I think there needs to be more access.

現在我會把它擴大到八支隊伍，但這不是因為我認為需要更多的機會。

It's to increase the value of conference championships, which right now under this system or tiebreakers and one more data point, I think you should have five power five champions in regardless of record on, then three at large to clean up the rest.

這是為了增加會議冠軍的價值，現在這個體系下還是決勝局，還有一個數據點，我覺得你應該有五個實力五冠王在不管戰績上，然後有三個逍遙法外來清理其他的。

But I think that if the rest of the field wants to change, the guys at the top become the guy at the top.

但我認為，如果其他領域想要改變，高層的人就會成為高層的人。

Interesting.

有意思

Alright, so Heather, then let me come to you no one covers the College football playoff committee as closely as you do and have since its inception.

好吧，那麼希瑟，讓我來告訴你... ...沒有人像你一樣密切關注大學橄欖球季後賽委員會... ...而且從它成立以來就一直如此。

What, if any sense do you get that there is, Ah, feeling that any change of any kind is necessary?

如果你有什麼感覺的話，你覺得有，啊，覺得有什麼變化是必要的？

I think ultimately expansion is inevitable.

我認為最終擴張是不可避免的。

But everyone has to remember that in order to G o from 2 to 4, it took 2 to 3 years not just to make the decision, but to implement the logistics.

但大家要記住，為了從2到4的G o，不僅僅是做決定，而是要花2到3年的時間來落實物流。

Right.

好吧，我知道了

Bob Bowlsby, the Big 12 commissioner, has told me repeatedly, there were a lot of compromises to get to this point.

鮑勃-鮑爾斯比，12大聯盟的委員，曾多次告訴我，為了走到這一步，我們做了很多妥協。

If it ever changes, there would have to be a lot of compromises again before the Pac 12 started playing Larry Scott there, commissioner, I thought he got a small victory and that he got the commissioners to talk about expanding it for this season because of the pandemic.

如果有一天改變了，在Pac 12開始在那裡玩拉里-斯科特之前，必須再次做出很多妥協，專員，我認為他獲得了一個小小的勝利，他讓專員們談論擴大本賽季，因為流行病。

There was support for that, but there was not enough support for it to do it as an experimental way for this season.

有支持的，但支持的力度不夠，不能作為本賽季的試驗性方式。

I'm told from my sources there was even some power five support, but it probably would have had to have been unanimous in this particular season and situation.

我從我的消息來源得知，甚至有一些五強的支持，但在這個特殊的賽季和情況下，可能必須是一致的。

So can what we've seen this year.

所以可以今年我們所看到的。

Fast forward that conversation.

快進那段對話。

Absolutely.

絕對的

But everyone has to remember how difficult it is because of Rose Bowl Orange Bowl Sugar Bowl contracts to change Paul thumbs up, thumbs down on an 18 playoff.

但是大家要記住，因為玫瑰杯橙杯糖杯的合同，要想改變保羅大拇指，大拇指的18個季後賽是多麼困難。

I'm all for it, but Heather's 100% correct.

我是支持的，但希瑟的100%正確。

The people that run college football are slow to change.

掌管大學足球的人遲遲不肯改變。

They don't like to hear these conversations, and the contract has a couple more years, and I think it will change before the end of the contract, which, of course, is with ESPN.

他們不喜歡聽到這些對話，合同還有幾年，我想在合同結束前就會改變，當然，這是和ESPN的合同。

But it's not changing, and it's not changing immediately.

但它不會改變，也不會馬上改變。

Whether Herbie or anyone else has has what has said what they will say, but the conference champions need to be in.

不管是赫迪還是其他人有什麼說什麼，但會議冠軍需要在。

You just have to be more inclusive.

你只需要更加包容。

Otherwise, the country tunes out.

否則，鄉下調出。

I remember Trevor years ago on Mike and Mike.

我記得特雷弗多年前在 "邁克和邁克 "節目中的表現。

You told me these decisions are made by a bunch of people in a room eating shrimp and croissants, and I still laugh when I think about the way you phrased it.

你告訴我，這些決定是由一群人在房間裡吃著蝦和羊角麵包做出來的，我想起你的措辭，還是會笑。

Guys, thank you all very much.

各位，非常感謝你們。

Let's see what happens this weekend.

讓我們看看這個週末會發生什麼。

Thank you for watching ESPN on YouTube for live streaming sports and premium content.

感謝您在YouTube上觀看ESPN的體育直播和優質內容。