AFRICAN-AMERICAN STUDIES AT VANDERBILT UNIVERSITY, MINISTER

範德比爾特大學非洲----美洲研究，部長。

AND BEST SELLING AUTHOR, HIS NEW BOOK LONG TIME COMING RECKONING

和暢銷書作家，他的新書《漫長的等待》（Long Time Coming RECKONING）。

WITH RACE IN AMERICA IS OUT RIGHT NOW, PLEASE WELCOME THE

與種族在美國是出現在，請歡迎

EVER INSPIRING DR. MICHAEL ERIC DYSON, THERE HE IS.

永遠鼓舞人心的博士。邁克爾・埃裡克・戴森，他在那裡。

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE, MICHAEL.

謝謝你來這裡，邁克爾。

SO HAPPY TO SEE YOU AS WE ALWAYS ARE.

很高興見到你，因為我們一直都在。

NOW LET'S TALK ABOUT YOUR BRILLIANT BOOK, LONG TIME

現在，讓我們來談談你那本精彩的書，《漫長的時間》。

COMING.

即將到來。

IT IS AN INCREDIBLY PROGOWNED-- PROFOUND READ.

這是一個非常專業的... ... 豐富的閱讀。

THE BOOK IS LAID OUT IN A WAY THAT EACH CHAPTER IS A LETTER

本書的編排方式是每一章都是一封信。

TOW VICTIMS OF POLICE BRUTALITY, BREONNA TAYLOR, ERIC GARNER,

TOW受害者的警察粗暴行為， 布倫娜-泰勒，埃裡克-加納。

WHAT WAS IT THAT MADE YOU APPROACH THE BOOK IN THIS WAY?

是什麼原因讓你用這種方式來處理這本書？

WELL, YOU KNOWK I DIDN'T WANT TO WRITE ABOUT THEM AND FURTHER

好吧，你知道我不想寫他們的事，而且...

EXPLOIT THEM FOR BOOK SALES OR TO OBJECTIFY THEM.

利用它們進行圖書銷售或使其成為目標。

I WANTED TO WRITE TOO THEM.

我想寫太他們。

I WANTED TO COMEUM WITH THEM, UP KNOW WHEN YOU GO TO THE GRAVE

我想和他們一起去，知道你什麼時候去墓地

SITE OF A YOUNG ONE AND WANT TO MEDITATE ABOUT YOUR FEATURES

年輕人的網站，並想冥想您的特點。

THINK ABOUT THE WORLD, I WANTED TO POSSESS THE CASE OF THEIR

想想這個世界，我想擁有他們的案子。

DEATH TO THEM AND IN TALKING TO THEM TO REMIND US AS CITIZENS

死於他們，並在與他們交談時提醒我們作為公民的身份。

THAT THESE PEOPLE HAVE PAID THE ULTIMATE PRICE, AS MARTYRS FOR A

這些人已經付出了最高的代價，作為馬特里斯的馬特里斯。

CAUSE THAT THEY DIDN'T CHOOSE.

因為他們沒有選擇。

USUALLY WE THINK OF MARTYRS WHO DLIN RATELY POINT DELT IN

通常我們想到的是那些DLIN經常指向DELT的MARTYRS。

DIFFERENCE TO HIGHER PRINCIPLES TO SERVE A GREATER END BUT THESE

差異到更高的原則，以服務於一個更大的結束，但這些。

PEOPLE WERE LIVING THEIR LIVES AND YET THEY WERE DRAFTED INTO

人們在過著自己的生活，但他們卻被徵召入伍。

THE WAR OF RACIAL RECKONING, AN BECAUSE OF THEIR DEATHS WE HAVE

種族清算的戰爭，因為他們的死亡，我們已經...

BEEN MADE BETTER SO I WANTED TO HONOR THEM AS WRITING TO THEM,

已經變得更好，所以我想向他們致敬，因為寫給他們。

AS RECENTLY ARRIVED IMMIGRANTS FOR THE MOST PART, IN THAT THEY

作為新近抵達的移民，大部分人都認為，他們是在

DO ACKNOWLEDGMENT FOR THEIR EXTRAORDINARY SACRIFICE WHILE

對他們的超常犧牲表示感謝，同時也對他們的犧牲表示感謝。

THEY PROVIDED GUIDANCE AND INSPIRATION FOR THOSE LEFT

他們為離去的人提供了指導和啟發。

BEHIND.

後面。

>> THE FIRST TIME YOU WERE ON THE SHOW, IT WAS THE MONDAY

>> "你第一次上節目，是在星期一

AFTER THE VIDEO OF GEORGE EMPLOYED'S MURDER HAD BEEN

在喬治-埃姆雷德謀殺案的視頻被曝光後

SHARED.

分享：

AND OF COURSE AT THAT POINT AND THE SUBSEQUENT WEEKS AFTER,

當然，在這一點上和隨後的幾個星期。

EVERYONE IS AWARE.

每個人都知道。

WE'RE FILLED WITH BLACK LIVES MATTER.

我們充滿了黑人生活的重要性。

HOW DOES THAT PETROLEUM KEEP GOING AND THAT PETROLEUM KEEPS

石油是如何繼續前進的，石油是如何保持的？

PUSHING FORWARD AND NOT JUST BECOMES SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED

推進，而不僅僅是發生的事情。

OVER THERE YOU KNOW?

在那邊，你知道嗎？

HOW DO WE GET TO DO THAT.

我們怎麼才能做到這一點。

>> YOU ARE A MARRIED MAN, YOU UNDERSTAND HOW IT WORKS.

>> 你是一個已婚男人，你知道如何工作。

WHEN YOU FIRST MEET IT IS FIREWORKS, IT IS NIGHTLY PASSION

當你第一次見到它的時候，它是火工，它是夜的激情。

AND SO WHY DO PEOPLE SOME OF THEM FOR THE FIRST TIME SOMEONE

所以，為什麼人們有些人第一次有人。

YOU LOVE WHAT IS THE PLAQUE KRNTION THE BLACK STRUGGLE, THE

你愛的是什麼？"標語 "是什麼？"黑人鬥爭 "是什麼？

BLACK RESISTANCE, BLACK LIVES MATTER.

黑人的抵抗，黑人的生活很重要。

BUT THEN IT BEGAN TO SORT OF MOVE OUT AND YOU GET TO THE YOU

但它開始移動出來，你得到了你的。

THINK SUSPECTING PART, WHERE DO YOU PUT THE TOOTHBRUSH AND HOW

想到懷疑的部分，你把牙刷放在哪裡，怎麼放？

YOU LIFT THE TOILET SEAT AND THE EVERY DAY MANTIES ARE FOCUSED

掀開洗碗機的座椅，每天的萬事萬物都集中在這裡。

NOW, NOW WE ARE IN THAT PHASE OF THIS TIP WHERE WHITE BLOWERS AND

現在，現在我們在這個階段的這個提示，其中白色的花朵和。

SISTERS AND BLACK BROTHERS AND SISTERS AND OTHERS HAVE TO

姐妹和黑人兄弟以及姐妹和其他人必須採取的措施：

NECIALT TO UNFIX IT EVERY DAY, NOT JUST BLACK LIVES MATTER

NECIALT to UNFIX IT EVERY DAY, NOT JUST BLACK LIVES MATTER(黑人生活重要)。

FEATURES.

特點：

NOT JUST SOCIAL MEDIA POSTINGS BUT HOW DO YOU INTEGRATE IT TOO

不僅僅是社交媒體上的帖子，你如何將其也整合起來？

INTO THE FABRIC OF YOUR EF REEF DAY EXIST ANSWERS, WHAT DO YOU

在你的EF REEF日的面料中，存在著答案，你需要什麼？

DO AT WORK, AT HOME, HUGH DO YOU TALK TO YOUR PARENTS, YOUR

在工作中，在家裡，你是否和你的父母，你的家人，你的朋友，你的朋友，你的朋友，你的朋友，你的朋友，你的朋友，你的朋友，你的朋友，你的朋友，你的朋友。

GRANDPARENTSK HOW DO YOU SPEEM TO YOUR PEERS, HOW DO YOU TALK

爺爺奶奶K 你如何向你的同齡人講話，你如何說話？

ABOUT KORPTD AMERICA INTEGRATING THESE IDEALS OF MOVING

關於KORPTD美國公司 將這些理念融入到運動中去

POWERFULLY, HOW DO YOU GO TO SCHOOL AND TALK ABOUT THESE

強大的，你如何去學校和談論這些。

IDEAS IN THE CLASSROOM AND CHALLENGE PEOPLE TO COME OUT OF

在課堂上的想法，並呼籲人們走出課堂。

THEIR FACIAL SHELLS TO CONFRONT ISSUES THAT HAVE HISTORICALLY

的問題，以解決歷史上的問題。

BEEN NEGOTIATED?

談判過了嗎？

SO AT THIS MOMENT, IT SEEMS IT IS IN A DOWN SWING BUT THERE SAY

所以在這個時刻，它似乎是在一個下降的擺動，但有說。

CONSTANT RHYTHM IN A PENDULUM SWINGING BACK AND FORTH AND

持續的節奏，在一個懸臂中前後擺動，並。

RIGHT NOW IT IS FORMED BACK AWAY FROM A CONSCIENCE RECOGNITION OF

現在，它是形成了回從一個意識認識到的

THESE PROBLEMS BUT IT LIVES US FACED TO BE INTENTIONAL TO

這些問題，但它的生活，我們面對的是故意的，以

FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO AND SUBMIT OURSELVES AGAIN TO THE HEART AND

想出該怎麼做，讓我們再次臣服於心和

DIFFICULT BUT YET REWARDING WORK 6 MOVING FORWARD IN OUR NATION.

艱難但有價值的工作 6 在我們國家前進。

>> THERE IS ONE POINT IN THE BOOK WHERE YOU TALK ABOUT THE

>> 書中有一點，你說到了 "我"。

PERILS OF CANCEL CULTURE WHICH I THINK IS A REALLY INTERESTING

取消文化的危險，我認為這是非常有趣的。

SUBJECT TO WRITE ABOUT, THAT REQUIRES NUANCE,SOMETHING WHICH

需要寫的主題，這需要神經質的東西，一些

SEEMS TO BE EVAPORATING BEFORE OUR EYES.

似乎是在我們眼前蒸發。

AND THE NOTION OF DISCUSSION WHAT I BELIEVE IS THE MAJORITY

和討論的概念，我相信這是大多數人的。

OF PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO BE GOOD HUMAN BEINGSK TRYING TO LEARN

試圖成為優秀的人類的人K 試圖學習。

FROM PAST MISTAKES, WHAT IS YOUR TAKE AND WHY DO YOU THINK IT WAS

從過去的失誤中，你的收穫是什麼，為什麼你認為是這樣的？

IMPORTANT TO RISE TO THAT.

重要的是上升到。

>> WHEN WE LOOK-- DPSH IF IS CONCERNED BH THAT JORT, TWO

>> 當我們看到... DPSH如果擔心BH，JORT，兩個。

THINGS.

事情。

GENDER AND SEXUALITY AND RACE.

性別、性慾和種族。

THESE ARE THE UNSOLVING KIN UNDRUMS THAT CONTINUE LYULLY

這些都是不解之緣的解脫，繼續悠悠地進行著。

SAILS TO, I REQUEST UNDERSTAND DISPORTS CAMP WAS ALL THEM.

駛向，我要求瞭解DISPORTS營地是所有這些。

FUB LICK FOR EM CAMP WAS ALL THEM PU THREATS' GO ON THE

舔他們的營地是所有這些PU威脅 "去上。

INTERNET AND RESOLVE IT.

INTERNET並解決它。

WE CAN GET IMMEDIATE JUSTICE, WE DON'T LIKE HARVEY WEINSTEIN ORR

我們可以立即獲得正義，我們不喜歡哈維-溫斯坦-奧爾。

KELLY, WE GET TO THE HEART OF THE MATTER BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE

凱利，我們進入了問題的核心，因為我們沒有。

TIME TO GO TO COURT OR CAPACITY TO DO SO TO HOLD THEM

上法院的時間或能力來追究他們的責任。

ACCOUNTABLE.

可問責。

FOR THE MOST PART CANCEL CULTURE SAY LATERAL MOVE.

大部分取消文化說後期動。

WE ARE BEATING UP ON EACH OTHER.

我們都在互相毆打。

WE ARE MAD AT SOMEBODY MAKING A MISTAKE.

我們對某些人的錯誤感到憤怒。

SRK MAKING A MISTAKE TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING.

SRK在做正確的事情時犯了一個錯誤。

A FAUX PAS, AND THEN WE HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE AND WE ADVICE

一個假的PAS，然後我們追究他們的責任，我們建議。

RATE THEM.

給它們打分。

WE VAP RATE THEM.

我們給它們打分。

WE DISAPPEAR THEM.

我們讓他們消失。

I DON'T THINK THAT IS RIGHT.

我不認為這是正確的。

ALL OF US ARE HUMAN BEINGS WHO ARE TENDING TO MAKE MISTAKE.

我們所有人都是傾向於犯錯誤的人類。

ALLS OF US ARE FOES TO BE VULNERABLE.

我們所有的人都是易受傷害的動物。

I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO GIJ THAPS YES WE MUST BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE,

我想讓我們對THAPS是的，我們必須承擔責任。

WE MUST PAY THE PRICE FOR OUR SINS BUT WE MUST BE HELD UP AND

我們必須為我們的罪付出代價，但我們必須被扣留，併為之付出代價。

STOOD UP, FORGIVEN, MOVED FORWARD, HAVE REDEMPTION AND

堅守、寬恕、前進、救贖和

RESTORATION SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE JUTION TIS WHERE WE PUNISH

復原，使我們不再有罪惡感，這就是我們懲罰的地方

SOMEBODY BUT WE HAVE RESTORATIVE JUSTICE WHERE WE INTEGRATE THEM

有些人，但我們有恢復性司法，我們把它們結合起來。

BACK INTO THE FABRIC OF OUR COMMUNITY AND ALLOW THEM TO MOVE

回到我們社區的結構中去，讓他們動起來。

FORWARD.

前鋒：

I THINK CANCEL CULTURE IS A MIRAGE IT IS DESTRUCTIVE AND I

我認為取消文化是一個惡作劇，它是破壞性的，而且我

ARGUE IN MY BOOK IT IS WHITE SUPREMACY BY OTHER MEANS BECAUSE

在我的書中，我認為這是白人至上的其他手段，因為。

WHITE SUPREMACY WANTS TO DESTROY AND ERADICATE AND BLACK PEOPLE

白人至高無上的權力想要摧毀和消滅黑人。

CAN ILL AFFORD-- AFFORD TO EMBRACE AN IDEA ABOUT THAT.

我可以承受... 可以承受這樣的想法。

>> I FEEL LIKE IS IT THE SORT OF CANCEL CULTURE ALL THOSE THINGS,

>> 我覺得它是那種取消文化所有這些東西。

I FEEL LIKE ANY CONVERSATION I HAVE WITH ANY FRIEND, ANY PERSON

我覺得我和任何朋友，任何一個人的談話都是一樣的。

I SEE IS FEELS THE SAME AS YOU DO AND FEELS THE SAME AS I DO.

我看到的是和你一樣的感覺，和我一樣的感受。

BUT IF YOU HAVE A SOURCE OF MEASURED CENTRIST OUTLOOKS ON

但是，如果你有一個來源的測量中心主義的觀點，在這裡，你會發現，你是一個很好的例子。

THOSE THINGS T IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO SHARE THAT BECAUSE

這些東西是幾乎不可能分享的，因為。

WE LOVE NOW IN A WORLD OF EXPERIENCE.

我們現在愛的是一個經驗的世界。

AND ALL EXTREMISM IS BAD.

所有的極端主義都是壞的。

ALL EXTREMISM IS BAD SO HOW DO YOU EVEN BEGIN TO TALK ABOUT

所有的極端主義都是壞的，所以你怎麼能開始談論。

FORGIVENESS WHEN EVEN BROACHING THE SUBJECT MAY LEAD TO YOUR OWN

寬恕，即使是瀏覽主題可能會導致你自己的。

CANCELATION.

取消：

>> THAT SAN EXCELLENT POINT.

>> 那三好點。

AND THAT IS WHY I FIND IT SO DESTRUCTIVE AND SO DIE LOLL KAL,

這就是為什麼我覺得它是如此的破壞性，所以死LOLL KAL。

THE VERY MOTION THAT WE CAN TRUMP TOGETHER, ARGUE, DISAGREE,

我們可以特朗普的議案，爭論，不同意。

DEBATE AND DIE LOCK AND ULTIMATELY TRUMP'S LAWS CAN

辯論和死鎖與特朗普的法則可以。

AGREE TO DISAGREE OR ONE OF US IS CON-- CONVERTED TO THE

同意不同意，或我們中的一個人同意...

OTHER'S POSITION.

其他職位：

AT THE IND OF THE DAY IF WAS HONESTLY, WE MAKE A STATEMENT

在一天的IND，如果是誠實的，我們做一個聲明。

AND WE MAKE A FAN AND WE DO IT IN FULL INTEGRITY, THEN WE

我們做了一個風扇，我們做了它在完整的完整性，然後我們。

SHOULD BE RECOGNIZED AND ACKNOWLEDGED.

應得到承認和認可。

THE ATTEMPT TO MOVE ANOTHER HUMAN BEING OR TO SHOW

試圖移動另一個人類或顯示

DESTABILIZE THEIR POSITION IN LIFE BECAUSE THEY HAVE A RUNOFF

破壞他們的生活地位，因為他們有一個跑路。

AGAINST A DEFENDANT, OUR NOTIONS OF WHAT IS PROPER AND

對被告人的指控，我們對什麼是恰當的和什麼是不恰當的的看法。

APPROPRIATE.

適當的。

>> THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE WANT ANBODY TO SAY SOMETHING IN

>> 這並不意味著我們希望任何人說一些話，在

REGARD TO RACE OR CLASS OR GENDER OR SEXUALITY AND TO

種族、階級、性別或性取向，並在此基礎上對其進行修改。

ASSAULT PEOPLE BUT IT DOES MEAN IF WE ARE TRYING TO DOT RIGHT

攻擊人民，但它意味著如果我們試圖點對了。

THING AND MAKE A MISTAKE ALONG THE WAY OR JUST AGREE AND WE ARE

的事情，並沿途犯錯，或者只是同意，我們是。

NOT READ OUT OF THE RACE, READ OUT OF COMEUM SOCIETY BECAUSE WE

不是讀出了比賽，而是讀出了共濟會，因為我們。

NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN HAVE O FENNED AN EYE DEL OR A NORM THAT

現在，所有的人都有一個眼睛DEL或一個標準，

NO LONGER WORKS FOR SOME PEOPLE.

對某些人來說是行不通的。

SO I THINK THAT SHALL DID IT NEEDS TO BE CANCELLED ITSELF.

所以，我認為它需要取消自己。

IF ANYTHING NEEDS TO BE CANCELLED ALONG WITH CERTAIN

如果有任何事情需要取消，同時也要考慮到某些方面的問題。

SUBSCRIPTION TO MAGAZINES OR CREDIT CARDS IT IS CANCEL

訂閱雜誌或信用卡，它被取消了。

CULTURE ITSELF.

文化本身。

>> James: IT IS WONDERFUL EVERY TIME YOU ARE ON THE SHOW.

>> 詹姆斯。你每次上節目都很精彩。

I TA TALK TO YOU TO FRIDAY NIGHT AND WOULD ALWAYS FIND IT

我跟你說過，到了週五晚上，我總會找到的

INSPIRING.

鼓舞人心的。

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

謝謝你在這裡。

LONG TIME COMING IS VAIBLG EVERYWHERE RIGHT NOW, WE'LL BE

長時間的到來是VAIBLG無處不在，現在，我們將是。

RIGHT BACK

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