The dust hasn't fully settled from free agency, but we still want your winners and losers.

自由市場還沒有完全塵埃落定，但我們還是想知道你的贏家和輸家。

So, Jackie, we will start with you.

所以，傑克，我們從你開始。

Who is winning free agency.

誰在贏得自由市場。

Oh, to me is most definitely the Lakers.

哦，對我來說最肯定的是湖人隊。

You had Dennis shrewder.

你有丹尼斯精明。

You eat Montrezl Harrell.

你吃了Montrezl Harrell.

I haven't read anybody that saw that coming.

我還沒有讀到有人預見到這一點。

And then you had one of my favorite NBA players of all time.

然後你有一個我最喜歡的NBA球員的所有時間。

Mark Gaskell, who I know is a little older.

馬克-蓋斯克爾，我知道他年紀大一點。

He's not, You know he has three point shooting is falling out, but he's still one of the smartest, most savviest defensive players in the league.

他不是，你知道他的三分球是掉了，但他仍然是聯盟中最聰明，最精明的防守球員之一。

I picture him guarding yoke.

我想象著他守護著枷鎖。

It's for the Lakers when it comes time.

到時候是為了湖人隊。

I also love what Portland did in Atlanta.

我也喜歡波特蘭在亞特蘭大的做法。

Those are my two runners up.

這是我的兩個亞軍。

Well, Jackie, you absolutely right.

好吧，傑克，你完全正確。

The Lakers are the biggest, biggest winner because all the points you pointed out, but I love with the Celtics done added Tristian Thompson, uh, to that roster and Jeff Teague.

湖人隊是最大的，最大的贏家，因為所有的點你指出，但我愛與凱爾特人隊做了添加特里斯蒂安-湯普森，呃，到該名冊和傑夫-蒂格。

And then let's talk about the Phoenix Suns.

再來說說菲尼克斯太陽隊。

They all win it big time, getting Chris Paul adding a guy like Jae Crowder and no, um, another another guy like each one more who a lot of people don't value.

他們都大獲全勝，得到克里斯-保羅增加了一個像傑-克勞德這樣的人，不，嗯，又多了一個像每個人這樣的人，很多人都不重視。

I'm looking at this Phoenix Suns roster, and they look pretty damn good on paper.

我在看菲尼克斯太陽隊的這份名單，他們在紙面上看起來非常不錯。

Also, the sun's air.

另外，太陽的空氣。

Such an exciting team going into this next season.

如此激動人心的球隊，進入下個賽季。

It's so refreshing for sons fans who have seen that team mismanaged for very, very long time to be putting the right pieces together, both last season and now going into this season, the Portland Trailblazers.

對於兒子們的球迷來說，他們看到那支球隊管理不善的時間非常非常長，無論是上個賽季還是現在進入這個賽季，波特蘭開拓者隊都能把正確的東西整合起來，這讓他們感到很新鮮。

I don't know how they could have done better, considering what their roster is.

我不知道他們怎麼能做得更好，考慮到他們的名單是什麼。

The Lakers phenomenal, considering especially that Montrose.

湖人隊現象級的，特別是考慮到那個蒙特羅。

Harold is not only a good player to pick up, he's gonna be better on your team.

哈羅德不僅是個好球員，他在你的球隊裡會變得更好。

Then he was for the Clippers.

然後他在快船隊。

Just because of the Fit with Anthony Davis and some of the other players that can cover up from entrees is weaker defensive issues.

只是因為與安東尼-戴維斯和其他一些可以從主菜中掩蓋的球員的契合度是較弱的防守問題。

And then you also kind of weaken your opponent across the hallway, which I know is a big deal in Lakers Clippers land, whether they admit it or not, and then I'm gonna throw one more in there.

然後你也算是削弱了對面走廊上的對手，我知道這在湖人快船隊的地盤上是個大問題，不管他們承不承認，然後我再扔一個進去。

I don't know if this is technically free agency.

我不知道這是不是技術上的自由機構。

I'm just kind of lumping in the whole week with trades and the draft and everything else but Philadelphia.

我只是把整個星期的交易、選秀和其他一切都歸納在一起，除了費城。

Jackie, you and I have talked so often about the fit between Joel Embiid and Ben Simmons, and the biggest issue when having that discussion is who are the players around them?

成龍，你我經常談論喬爾-恩比德和本-西蒙斯之間的配合問題，在進行這種討論時，最大的問題是他們身邊的球員是誰？

I don't know if we have the numbers from our research researcher Caesar, but if you look at these two guys when they were on the floor together just a couple of years ago, they were plus 15.

我不知道我們的研究員凱撒有沒有數據，但是如果你看看這兩個傢伙幾年前一起上場的時候，他們是加15。

I mean that you wouldn't look at that and say, God, those guys can't play together They don't fit because they had spacing.

我的意思是，你不會看到這一點，並說，上帝，這些傢伙不能一起玩，他們不適合，因為他們有間距。

They had other guys around them.

他們身邊還有其他的人。

And then you look at each season since then and how the numbers have gone down Well, they didn't change into different players.

然後你再看看從那以後每個賽季的數據是如何下降的 好吧，他們並沒有換成不同的球員。

It's because of the players around them.

是因為身邊的球員。

So Daryl Morey did such a good job switching out the players around them.

所以，達里爾-莫雷做了這麼好的工作，換掉了身邊的球員。

They're not there yet at an ideal roster, but the improvement?

他們還沒有達到理想的名次，但進步?

I think it's such a fresh air breath of fresh air for those two guys there in my winners category for the week at large.

我想，在我的獲獎者類別中，那兩個人在那裡是如此新鮮的空氣，在一週的時間裡，我的獲獎者類別是如此新鮮的空氣。

For the other side of the coin, though, Jackie, who are your losers.

對於硬幣的另一面，不過，成龍，誰是你的失敗者。

Well, I'm gonna stick in Los Angeles.

好吧，我要堅持在洛杉磯。

But again, we talked about mantra as Harold walking across the hallway doesn't probably could just move his stuff from one walker to the next.

但是，我們又談到了咒語，因為哈羅德走過走廊，不大概可以把他的東西從一個喪屍搬到下一個。

I think that's a pretty big blow.

我想這是一個相當大的打擊。

And I'll tell you something that a lot of people aren't talking about.

而我要告訴你一件事，很多人都沒有說過。

What they should be is to Michael Green.

他們應該是對邁克爾-格林。

Going to the Nuggets for me is also Ah, big loss for the Clippers.

去掘金隊對我來說也是啊，快船隊的損失很大。

Remember?

記得嗎？

We were talking about Rajon Rondo going across the hall with his stuff to the other locker.

我們說的是Rajon Rondo帶著他的東西穿過大廳去了另一個櫃子。

Not so fast.

沒那麼快

He ended up going to the Hawks.

他最後還是去了老鷹隊。

So for me, the Clippers do not come out of this.

所以對我來說，快船隊並沒有走出這。

Well, here's the other thing.

好吧，這是另一件事。

They did add Serge Ibaka, who I like.

他們確實加入了塞爾吉-伊巴卡，我喜歡他。

I probably like even a little better than Montrezl Harrell because of what he could do.

我可能甚至比Montrezl Harrell更喜歡一點，因為他能做什麼。

But he has a player option for 2021 Rachel and Perk.

但他有2021年瑞秋和佩克的球員選項。

That means that if things start to go sour, he Kawai, Paul, George, they can all walk in 2021.

也就是說，如果事情開始不順，他川井、保羅、喬治，都可以在2021年走人。

Well, my biggest loser is the rockets Here.

好吧，我最大的輸家是這裡的火箭。

You got your two franchise guys acting to be traded right now and you go out there and you signed Christian Woods.

你有兩個特許經營權的人現在要被交易，你去那裡，你簽下了克里斯蒂安-伍茲。

Look, Christian Woods is a good young player, but he's not moving the needle.

聽著，克里斯蒂安-伍茲是個很好的年輕球員，但他並沒有動人的地方。

And you let all these guys that walk away and don't make any type of moves toe make your stars happy, especially James Harden to try to keep him.

而你讓所有這些走掉的人，不做任何類型的動作，讓你的球星高興，尤其是詹姆斯-哈登，試圖留住他。

So right now, the biggest loser in free agency is the Houston Rockets.

所以現在，自由市場最大的輸家是休斯頓火箭隊。

They're dropping the ball tremendously, but I would like to add one more thing.

他們的丟球很厲害，但我想再補充一點。

The defer Nuggets or loser right now to me because they lost Jeremy Grant.

現在我覺得掘金隊還是失敗者，因為他們失去了傑里米-格蘭特。

And I thought they should have did everything in their power to keep him, especially the way that he defends his land size, athleticism.

而我以為他們應該竭盡全力留住他，尤其是他對自己的地盤尺寸、運動能力的維護。

And in the Western Conference, where you need a guy like that tow watch LeBron James, Kawhi Leonard and all these athletic wings, even a Kevin Durant, and you let him walk away.

而在西部聯盟，你需要一個像這樣的傢伙拖看勒布朗-詹姆斯，卡維-萊昂納德和所有這些運動型的翅膀，甚至是一個凱文-杜蘭特，你讓他走了。

I thought Denver really lost on that on that with losing Jeremy Grant Park, I'm a little surprised to hear you put the Celtics in the winner's category.

我以為丹佛在那上面真的輸了，失去了傑里米-格蘭特-帕克，聽到你把凱爾特人歸入贏家行列，我有點驚訝。

I like the Tristan Thompson signing, too.

我也喜歡特里斯坦-湯普森的簽約。

I think that it fills a need for them.

我想這能滿足他們的需求。

I think that he will be a good active, dedicated player for them, except for a few spots, relatively injury free.

我想他會是他們的一個好的現役球員，兢兢業業的球員，除了幾個位置，相對沒有傷病。

But do you think that the Celtics roster got appreciably?

但你認為凱爾特人隊的陣容得到了升值嗎？

Better do?

更好地做？

Would you put them?

你會放他們嗎？

Is a winner Jackie, or would you put them or is neutral?

是一個贏家成龍，或者你會把他們或中性？

I would not put him as a winner.

我不會把他作為贏家。

Gordon Hayward walked away for nothing.

戈登-海沃德白白走了。

And I'm telling you, people don't understand how important Gordon Hayward was to the Celtics.

我告訴你，人們不明白戈登-海沃德對凱爾特人隊有多重要。

Things is a guy who put aside his ego, put aside the number of shots.

事情是一個放下自我，放下出手次數的傢伙。

He was the best facilitator on that team last year, and he the shots that he did make.

他是去年那支球隊中最好的主持人，他的投籃確實。

He was very efficient.

他的效率很高。

Now I get that.

現在我明白了。

Everybody looks at the dollar signs.

大家都在看美元的標誌。

Was he worth $34 million?

他值3400萬嗎？

Would I have paid him with the Charlotte Hornets?

我會用夏洛特黃蜂隊來支付他嗎？

Paid him if I were the Boston Celtics?

如果我是波士頓凱爾特人隊就給他錢？

No, I wouldn't.

不，我不會。

But he still walked away without you getting anything for him.

但他還是走了，你沒有為他得到任何東西。

I don't consider that a win.

我不認為這是一個勝利。

Yeah, I do.

是的，我有。

Go ahead.

去吧

I don't.

我不知道

Rachel and Jackie, I considered a win because I'm gonna tell you why he walked away.

瑞秋和傑姬，我考慮過要贏，因為我要告訴你他為什麼要離開。

And now give the keys to Jayson Tatum and Jalen Brown.

現在把鑰匙給傑森-塔圖姆和杰倫-布朗。

And you still have Kemba Walker.

而且你還有肯巴-沃克。

So you still have a big three and then you have a had a guy to the bitch like Jeff Teague, who is capable of giving you 15 to 16 points tonight.

所以你還是有一個三巨頭，然後你有一個像傑夫-蒂格這樣的人到賤人，他今晚能夠給你15到16分。

And then you add Tristan Thompson, one of the best guys at the center position that can anchor defense.

然後你再加上特里斯坦-湯普森，他是中鋒位置上最好的人之一，可以主力防守。

Which one through five is a live threat at the basket.

哪一個過五關斬六將在籃下活生生的威脅。

Ah, center that they've been missing that the Celtics been needing.

啊，他們一直缺少的中鋒，凱爾特人隊一直需要的。

He brings us, Ah, certain type of tenacity.

他給我們帶來了，啊，某種類型的韌性。

So I know I understand.

所以我知道我明白了。

Losing Gordon Haywood was was a little blow, but get moving them out the way so that Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum could now flourished and take over.

失去戈登-海伍德是是一個小打擊，但得到移動他們的方式，所以杰倫-布朗和傑森-塔圖姆現在可以蓬勃發展和接管。

That's a huge win to me, and I really think that these guys could get it done.

這對我來說是一個巨大的勝利，我真的認為這些人可以完成它。

Well, time will tell Perk.

好吧，時間會告訴你，帕克。

If you're right, we'll see it's a competitive Eastern Conference.

如果你是對的，我們會看到這是一個競爭激烈的東部聯盟。

You've got Brooklyn that we know we'll get better with Kevin Durant coming back and Kyrie healthy.

你有布魯克林，我們知道隨著凱文-杜蘭特的迴歸和凱里的健康，我們會變得更好。

We know Miami, they're gonna be dogs, and we know Milwaukee is ready to run, so we'll see what that Eastern Conference looks like and where the Celtics fall in there.

我們知道邁阿密，他們會是狗，我們知道密爾沃基已經準備好了，所以我們會看到東部聯盟是什麼樣子的，凱爾特人在那裡下降。

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