The Lakers agreed to a trade for dinner shrewder before free agency began, then picked up.

湖人隊在自由市場開始前就同意了晚餐精明人的交易，然後接。

Six.

六、

Man of the Year mantra is Harold and Marc Gasol.

年度最佳男人的口頭禪是哈羅德和馬克-加索爾。

Over the weekend, they also resigned KCP and Markieff Morris.

週末，他們還辭去了KCP和馬基夫-莫里斯。

As for the Clippers, they picked up Serge Ibaka and Luke Kennard, and they resigned Marcus Morris as well.

至於快船隊，他們選中了塞爾吉-伊巴卡和盧克-肯納德，他們也辭掉了馬庫斯-莫里斯。

So Perk.

所以佩克。

Who has the better roster on paper between these two l A teams?

這兩支甲級球隊誰的紙面陣容更好？

Of course, they don't play on paper.

當然，他們不會紙上談兵。

But who would you say?

但你會說誰呢？

It's the Lakers, Rachel.

是湖人隊，瑞秋。

Rob Pelinka went out there and in free agency, and he did his thing.

羅伯-佩林卡去了那裡，在自由市場，他做了他的事情。

He went out there and got free agents like the Lakers loss and didn't win the championship.

他出去找了自由人，就像湖人輸了一樣，沒能奪得總冠軍。

When you look at him getting Dennis Schroder, uh, my Tres Harold much has had who we was stolen from the Clippers, who was the sixth man of the year.

當你看他得到丹尼斯-施羅德，呃，我的特雷斯-哈羅德多有誰我們是從快船隊偷來的，他是年度第六人。

And then you go out there and get West Matthews for 3.61 of the best two way players in the game today.

然後你去找西馬修斯，用3.61的價格買到了當今最好的二路球員。

Not the best, but one of the best.

不是最好的，但也是最好的之一。

And then you go let and then you go on Landmark Castle but veteran B.

然後你去讓，然後你去上置地城堡，但老手B。

That was crucial.

這一點很關鍵。

Yeah, the answer has to be both.

是的，答案必須是兩者都有。

These teams are awesome.

這些隊伍都很厲害。

They're they're my favorites to go one and two in the West.

他們是我的最愛，在西部一二線。

But look, the Lakers just won a championship and they got better.

但你看，湖人隊剛剛贏得了一個總冠軍，他們變得更好了。

So the answer has to be Lakers Lakers Dennis Shrewder as an ingredient they just didn't have last year.

所以答案必須是湖人隊的丹尼斯-施羅德，因為他們去年就是沒有這個成分。

Ah, water bug point guard who can create his own shot?

啊，能自己創造投籃機會的水蟲控衛？

I think he'll do a great job running, pick and roll with LeBron and A D.

我想他會和勒布朗和A D一起，在跑動、接球和滾動方面做得很好。

And Marc Gasol is a perfect fit with their starting five if they decide to start him.

而如果他們決定讓馬克-加索爾首發的話，他和他們的首發五人組是非常合適的。

Same level of interior defense is Dwight and Javale.

同樣水準的內線防守是德懷特和賈維爾。

Maybe even a little better.

也許還能更好一點。

Except he can shoot threes in space.

除了他可以在太空中投三分。

The floor for Anthony Davis.

安東尼-戴維斯的發言。

So all of a sudden what Anthony Davis is posting up, the laying is clear.

所以，突然間安東尼-戴維斯貼上來的東西，鋪墊的很清楚。

Anthony Davis is pick and roll diving to the rim.

安東尼-戴維斯正挑著籃板跳投。

The lane is clear, and, oh, by the way, if you decide to put your center on Anthony Davis and try to hide your power forward on Marc Gasol, he could take that guy down to the weight room.

通道是暢通的，哦，對了，如果你決定把你的中鋒放在安東尼-戴維斯身上，並試圖把你的強力前鋒藏在馬克-加索爾身上，他可以把那個傢伙帶到體重室。

You throw in Montrose.

你把蒙特羅斯也算進去

Harold, Maybe keep him in a six man kind of role off the bench.

哈羅德，也許讓他在板凳上扮演一個六人的角色。

I think the Lakers had an amazing offseason clippers and doing great, But when you win the championship, you get the benefit of the doubt.

我認為湖人隊在休賽期有一個驚人的剪子和做得很好，但當你贏得總冠軍，你得到的好處的疑問。

It really does seem like a long time ago.

這真的好像是很久以前的事了。

Guys, right that the narrative out there was G.

夥計們，對了，外面的說法是G。

I don't know if players want to play with LeBron Kyrie left.

我不知道勒布朗-凱里離開後，球員們是否願意打球。

Kevin Durant didn't wanna come quite letter, didn't want to come to the Lakers and play with him.

凱文-杜蘭特不想來很信，不想來湖人隊和他一起打球。

Guess what guys seem to be wanting to play on that Lakers team and such an interesting thing happened with the Lakers last year, and I wanted to ask you guys about it because last summer I said once they built that roster G, I'm worried about their perimeter defense.

你猜怎麼著傢伙好像都想在湖人那支球隊打球，去年湖人隊發生了這樣一件有趣的事情，我想問你們，因為去年夏天我就說過，一旦他們建立了那個陣容G，我就會擔心他們的外圍防守。

I was very concerned about where that was going to come from.

我很擔心這東西會從哪裡來。

And if you look at the numbers of where this Lakers roster, their core players were the previous season, look at their defensive numbers from last season.

而如果你看看這支湖人隊的陣容，他們的核心球員在前一個賽季的數據，看看他們上賽季的防守數據。

You can see where that concern Waas, but then look at this past season.

你可以看出華斯的擔憂所在，但再看看過去的這個賽季。

Every single guy got better, I mean much better and I would say this is in some ways the Frank Vogel effect.

每一個人都變得更好，我的意思是更好，我想說這在某些方面是弗蘭克-沃格爾效應。

This is in some ways LeBron getting serious on defense the way he hadn't in the previous few years.

這從某種程度上來說，勒布朗在防守上的認真程度是前幾年所沒有的。

But it has sort of made me wonder.

但這也讓我有點疑惑。

How do we account for this thing when looking at rosters to say, Huh?

我們在看花名冊的時候怎麼交代這個事情說，咦？

Some of these guys might be so much better consistently, one through eight.

有些人可能會好得多持續，一到八。

There, then they were the previous season.

有，那麼他們在前一個賽季。

Zack.

扎克

When you see those numbers, what do you do when you evaluate rosters?

當你看到這些數字時，當你評估名冊時，你會怎麼做？

Well, a lot of those numbers those air team defense or individual defensive ratings, those air really heavily dependent on your team context.

好吧，很多這些數字... ...那些空氣中的團隊防守或個人防守評級， 這些空氣真的嚴重依賴於你的團隊背景。

So when you added Anthony Davis and you added engaged LeBron James and you re tool the team around them, everybody's defensive numbers.

所以當你加入了安東尼-戴維斯，你加入了從事勒布朗-詹姆斯，你圍繞他們重新工具球隊，每個人的防守數據。

They're gonna get better.

他們會好起來的

So I don't put a huge amount of stock into those numbers.

所以我並不太相信這些數字。

I just think the Lakers got better talent, including a defensive player of the year level player and Anthony Davis.

我只是覺得湖人隊得到了更好的天賦，包括年度最佳防守球員級別的球員和安東尼-戴維斯。

Ah, Coach is gonna stress defense from day one, and they came out with the mindset of We're building our team defense and out, and when you do all those things together, yeah, everybody's numbers.

啊，教練從第一天開始就要強調防守，他們出場時的心態是：我們要建立我們的團隊防守和出，當你把這些事情一起做了，對，大家的數據。

They're gonna improve.

他們會進步的

I don't think and and and everyone bought in guys who maybe haven't bought in as much in the past, but in.

我不認為和和大家買進的傢伙也許過去沒有買進那麼多，但在。

So that's what happens.

所以，這就是發生的事情。

And I do think they can carry that over into this season.

而且我認為他們可以將這種情況延續到本賽季。

As you point out.

正如你所指出的。

Rachel, their perimeter depth.

瑞秋，他們的周邊深度。

Justus Good now as it was when they won in the bubble.

賈斯特斯好現在就像他們在保麗龍中獲勝時一樣。

Maybe even better and exact.

也許會更好，更準確。

You hit a great point by bringing up Frank Vogel.

你提到Frank Vogel的時候說得很有道理。

When you look at Coach Vogel, especially when he was with the Pacers, they were always at the top defensively.

當你看沃格爾教練，尤其是他在Pacers隊的時候，他們的防守一直都是頂尖的。

So Frank Vogel brings that defensive mindset, and once he got LeBron James and Anthony Davis to buy in it, then it's a ripple effect.

所以弗蘭克-沃格爾帶來了這種防守思路，一旦他讓勒布朗-詹姆斯和安東尼-戴維斯買賬，那麼就會產生連鎖反應。

Now you see Caldwell Pope, he's buying in on the defensive end.

現在你看到考德威爾-波普，他在防守端買入。

And then you seen Dwight Howard and JaVale McGee last year the way that they had the defense of impact.

然後你看到德懷特-霍華德和賈維爾-麥基去年的防守衝擊方式。

But now you add Dennis Schroder, who's a guy that could pick up 94 ft, whose feisty on the defensive end who gets you extra possession along with a guy like Montreal's Harold Look.

但現在你再加上丹尼斯-施羅德，他是一個可以拿下94英尺的傢伙，他在防守端很強勢，他能讓你獲得額外的球權，還有一個像蒙特利爾的哈羅德-拉克這樣的傢伙。

We praise Montrezl Harrell about his offensive package and his 19 points a game, but he's great at taking charges.

我們讚揚Montrezl Harrell關於他的進攻包和他的每場19分，但他很擅長收費。

He's underrated shot blocker and then we all know locked in Marc Gasol.

他是被低估的射手，然後我們都知道鎖定了馬克-加索爾。

What he brings to the table along with Wesley Matthews locking in on the wing position at 3.6 million.

他帶來了什麼，以及韋斯利-馬修斯以360萬鎖定側翼位置。

Hey, it is.

嘿，它是。

It looks like pure gold to me for the Los Angeles Lakers and on the Clippers side.

在我看來，洛杉磯湖人隊和快船隊這邊是純金。

Serge Ibaka, I think, makes up for a lot of losses there.

塞爾吉-伊巴卡，我想，彌補了很多損失有。

But, Zach, do you think they're done?

但是，扎克，你認為他們完成了嗎？

Because a true ball floor general, it feels like they still need to feel out on that roster.

因為一個真正的球壇大將，感覺他們還需要在這個名單上摸索。

Well, there just aren't a lot of those players left unless they want to resign Reggie Jackson.

好吧，這些球員已經所剩無幾了，除非他們想辭掉雷吉-傑克遜。

It's getting to be slim pickings.

越來越渺茫了。

But to answer a question, no, I don't think they're done, and I don't necessarily think there's a move that happens now or maybe even before the season.

但回答一個問題，不，我不認為他們已經完成了，我不一定認為現在甚至可能在賽季前發生的舉動。

But I don't think the Clippers as they stand right now, First of all, they have to add a couple of players.

但我不認為現在的快船隊，首先，他們必須增加幾個球員。

Second of all, I just don't think this is gonna be the team that that is, that is playing for the title or playing in the playoffs after the shade that I think they'll tweak it a little bit.

其次，我只是不認為這支球隊會是那支，為冠軍而戰或在季後賽中打出陰影后的球隊，我認為他們會稍微調整一下。

But Ibaka was, Ah, hugely important signing for them.

但伊巴卡是，啊，對他們來說是非常重要的簽約。

I agree.

我同意。

Look, the Clippers dropped the ball.

你看，快船隊丟了球。

I thought they would be more aggressive this offseason.

我以為這個休賽期他們會更加積極。

I thought that they would try to go out there and really pursue Ragen Rondo, because that's what they're missing, their missing that floor.

我以為他們會努力去追求拉根-隆多，因為這才是他們缺少的，他們缺少的那個底線。

General, They're missing that veteran leader, uh, to be on the ball club, to be that guy who controls the locker room outside of basketball.

將軍，他們缺少了那個資深的領袖，呃，在球會里，成為那個在籃球之外控制更衣室的人。

But they didn't go out there and they didn't be aggressive to me right now.

但是他們沒有出去，他們現在也沒有對我有什麼攻擊性。

The clip was a losing, especially the L A battle, but they're losing in the free agency battle tremendously.

這個片段是輸了，尤其是L A戰役，但他們在自由市場戰役中輸得很慘。

Serge Ibaka was a good pick up, but they needed to add more pieces, and they're not getting it done right now.

塞爾吉-伊巴卡是個不錯的選擇，但他們需要增加更多的作品，而他們現在還沒有做到。

They got time before the trade deadline still months away.

他們在交易截止日期前還有幾個月的時間。

We'll see how they tweak and come up with a roster that's gonna take them into the playoffs.

我們將看到他們如何調整，並拿出一個能帶他們進入季後賽的名單。

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