Guys, Ah, lot of folks question Hayward opting out of his $34 million option with the Celtics for next season.

夥計們，啊，很多人質疑海沃德選擇放棄下賽季與凱爾特人隊的3400萬美元選項。

But clearly, it was for a reason it worked out for him.

但很顯然，這對他來說是有原因的。

Zack, What's your assessment of Charlotte's decision to gamble on Hayward here?

扎克，你對夏洛特在這裡賭海沃德的決定有何評價？

All right, let me defend the Charlotte Hornets a little bit.

好吧，讓我為夏洛特黃蜂隊辯護一下。

Do I think this is a good contract?

我認為這是個好合同嗎？

Not really.

不見得

Do I think it will be like a trade asset in a couple of years?

我認為幾年後會像交易資產一樣嗎？

No, But it's not like the Celtics and the Pacers, and a sign and trade were offering $80 million or $90 million.

不，但它不像凱爾特人隊和步行者隊，和一個簽名和交易提供8000萬美元或9000萬美元。

It was something over $100 million.

這是東西超越1億錢。

So it's not like the difference was that big.

所以，相差也不是很大。

And look, if you want free agents to come to Charlotte, this is what you have to do.

聽著，如果你想讓自由球員來夏洛特，這是你必須要做的。

Just like if you want free agents to come to any kind of small market, you have to over pay them, and all you want to say is, well, they should just keep tanking and tanking and tanking.

就像你想讓自由球員來什麼小市場，就得給他們高薪一樣，你想說的是，好吧，他們應該繼續加油，加油，加油。

Well, that's just not a reality for a lot of these teams.

好吧，這對很多球隊來說都不是現實。

It's not a reality for these small market teams, even in the year when you can't sell tickets.

對於這些小市場球隊來說，即使在賣不出票的年份，也是不現實的。

And also the Hornets, as things stood before, could have had, like 50 $60 million in cap space this coming off season when, like two thirds of the league, is gonna have a lot of cap space.

還有黃蜂隊，按照之前的情況來看，在這個即將到來的休賽期，他們可以有，比如5000萬6000萬的上限空間，而當時，像聯盟三分之二的人，是會有很多上限空間的。

What are you buying with that cap space?

你用這些空間買什麼？

That's better than Gordon Hayward.

這比戈登-海沃德好。

Gordon Hayward, if he stays healthy, is still a really, really good player.

戈登-海沃德，如果他保持健康，仍然是一個非常非常好的球員。

So, no, I don't think it's a great contract.

所以，不，我不認為這是一個偉大的合同。

And, you know, everyone wants to clown the Hornets for going all in for the eighth seed.

而且，你知道，每個人都想嘲笑黃蜂隊，因為他們要全力爭奪第八種子。

Like they always dio.

就像他們一直在做的那樣

I just don't think it's his bad of a deal as people are making it out to be.

我只是不認為這是他的壞的交易，因為人們正在做出來的。

And I think Gordon Hayward is still a damn good player.

而且我覺得戈登-海沃德還是一個該死的好球員。

Well, Zack, I have to disagree with you.

好吧，扎克，我不同意你的觀點。

Look, I'm all in for players getting their bread and getting their letters, but for the harness, this was a bad deal.

聽著，我很支持球員們得到他們的麵包，得到他們的信，但對於馬具，這是個糟糕的交易。

And look, we're coming up on Thanksgiving and Michael Jordan is already thinking about Christmas because if he if he's gonna be this giving, I might have to retire from ESPN to go get back in shape.

你看，我們來了 感恩節和邁克爾・喬丹已經考慮 聖誕節，因為如果他... ...如果他要去 這個給，我可能要退休 從ESPN去恢復身材。

Because if he's going to be giving out millions of dollars, I could go out there and go send pics and rebound if he just in a giving mood.

因為如果他要發幾百萬的錢，如果他只是心情很給力，我可以去發照片，去反彈。

Look, this type of signing is not good, and I understand it's hard to land free agents in a small market.

你看，這種簽約不是好事，我明白在一個小市場裡很難找到自由球員。

But when you go out there and give $120 million toe God, that's over 30.

但當你出去給上帝捐了1.2億美元，那就是超過30。

But getting up in age, you know, toe Lana Gordon Haywood, whose to me, not the number one option guy.

但年紀大了，你知道，拉娜・戈登・海伍德，他對我來說，不是頭號選擇的人。

It could set your organization back in the future, And I just think with an organization like the Hornets, you did well by the drafting Lemelle lowball.

這可能會讓你的組織在未來倒退，而且我只是覺得像黃蜂這樣的組織，你低價招募萊梅爾做得很好。

You continue to draft young guys and develop young guys and have a great player development, not go out there and spend $120 million on the agent Gordon Haywood, who haven't really been healthy.

你繼續選拔年輕人，培養年輕人，並且有一個偉大的球員發展，而不是去花1.2億美元在經紀人戈登-海伍德身上，他們還沒有真正的健康。

His health is one of the big flags right, of course, and the injury when he first got to Boston was a freak injury, but he's had many injuries since then.

當然，他的健康狀況是一大旌旗燈號吧，他剛到波士頓時的傷勢是個怪胎，但此後他的傷病也不少。

Mr Chunk of time in the bubble.

大塊的時間在保麗龍中的先生。

I do always want to compare it, though.

不過，我是一直想比較一下。

If you're spending money on Gordon and people say why you shouldn't be doing that, it's way over paying him well, What else would you be spending that money on and his ax point?

如果你把錢花在戈登身上，別人說你為什麼不應該這麼做，這是給他高薪的方式，你還會把錢花在什麼地方，他的斧頭點？

Their options of what else to spend that money on?

他們還可以選擇把錢花在什麼地方？

Our are not the same as some other teams around the league, so we'll just have to watch and see if he becomes a worthwhile signing for them and especially his health over the coming years.

我們的和聯盟其他一些球隊不一樣，所以我們只能觀察，看看他是否成為他們值得簽下的球員，特別是他在未來幾年的健康狀況。

I do want to switch gears guys quickly, though, because a delegation of MBA players several officials from the Players Association We're at the Vatican today, the Vatican for a private audience with Pope Francis to discuss their work on social justice issues.

我想快速切換等級，雖然，因為一個MBA球員的代表團，幾位球員協會的官員，我們今天在梵蒂岡，梵蒂岡與教皇方濟各私下會面，討論他們在社會正義問題上的工作。

The delegation included Kyle Korver and Sterling Brown from the Bucks, Jonathan Isaac of the Orlando Magic.

代表團成員包括來自雄鹿隊的凱爾-科沃爾和斯特林-布朗，奧蘭多魔術隊的喬納森-艾薩克。

Anthony Tolliver, the union secretary treasurer Marco Belinelli and Michelle Roberts, executive director of the Players Union.

安東尼-託利弗、工會祕書司庫馬可-貝里內利和劇團工會執行董事米歇爾-羅伯茨。

Zach, this was your story this morning.

扎克，這是你今早的故事。

What else can you tell us about how this came about and the discussions they had, uh, on intermediary for the pope, The pope.

你還能告訴我們什麼關於這一切是如何發生的 以及他們的討論，呃，關於教皇的中間人，教皇。

It feels weird to say the pope not continuous Caldwell Pope.

說教皇不連續卡德維爾教皇感覺很奇怪。

But they reached out to the union and said, Hey, we really admire what these players have done for social justice and racial inequality.

但他們聯繫到工會說，嘿，我們真的很佩服這些球員為社會正義和種族不平等所做的事情。

I'd like to have a visit with them or the pope would.

我想和他們見面，否則教皇會。

And look, I don't know what you guys believe.

你看，我也不知道你們相信什麼。

It doesn't matter what I believe.

我相信什麼並不重要。

When the pope summons you, you apparently go to the pope because he everything he says is important for like, ah, billion people on Planet Earth.

當教皇召見你的時候，你顯然要去找教皇，因為他說的每一句話對地球上的十億人來說都很重要。

So for the players to get a stage like this in an audience like this, no matter what you believe is kind of objectively a big deal.

所以對於選手來說，在這樣的觀眾席上獲得這樣的舞臺，不管你相信什麼，客觀上都是一種大事件。

Perk?

Perk?

Absolutely.

絕對的

I know you agree with me that the pope, when the pope calls you gotta say yes, right?

我知道你同意我的說法，教皇，當教皇打電話給你時，你得說是，對嗎？

Perk?

Perk?

Absolutely.

絕對的

And when you think about the Rachel, just it tells you how great of a job these n b a guys, the current n b a.

當你想到瑞秋，只是它告訴你如何偉大的工作 這些N B A的傢伙，目前N B A。

Guys that are playing did for us with what they're doing outside of the court, for us, their leadership and in social justice because this is powerful and they got to keep it going.

正在打球的傢伙們為我們做了什麼，他們在球場外，為我們做了什麼，他們的領導力和社會正義，因為這是強大的，他們必須繼續下去。

And I love with what I'm saying out of these young leaders and a couple of older veteran leader so like Zack said.

而我愛與我說的這些年輕的上司和幾個年長的老上司所以像扎克說的。

And like you said when the pope called, This is a beautiful thing to see and it just shows that we're moving in the right direction.

就像你說的，當教皇打來電話的時候，這是一個美麗的事情，它只是表明我們正在朝著正確的方向前進。

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