Name: 哈登-維斯特布魯克的交易傳奇讓蒂爾曼-費蒂塔感到 "很受傷"--Amin Elhassan | The Jump (The Harden-Westbrook trade saga has Tilman Fertitta feeling 'very hurt' - Amin Elhassan | The Jump)
Uploaded: 2020-11-22T18:31:29.000Z
Duration: 7 min 6 s

So, Zach, what happens now with James Harden?

那麼，扎克，詹姆斯-哈登現在會怎麼樣？

I heard Mawr Similar information echoed today that it's just wait time that Houston is not bending for now.

我今天聽到毛爾類似的資訊迴響，只是等待時間，休斯敦暫時不彎腰。

And all of that does, I think, is bring more people to the table.

而所有這些，我想，是讓更多的人参與進來。

You know, the Nets will be there if Hardin wants them to be there.

你知道，如果哈丁希望他們在那裡，網隊就會在那裡。

There can always be mystery suitors that come in.

The longer you wait, the more time opens up for a situation to go haywire somewhere else and for another team they want to jump in.

你等待的時間越長，就越有時間打開局面，在別的地方出亂子，另一支球隊他們想跳進來。

There are a lot of teams that have not a lot, but there are three or four teams that could probably name that have the assets to get James Harden or to at least get themselves into conversation.

有很多球隊都沒有，但有三四支球隊大概可以說出有得到詹姆斯-哈登的資產，或者至少讓自己進入對話。

But right now, it's just wait and see time.

Yeah, one of the things that is just a reality about this is that James Harden has two years left on his contract.

是的，其中有一點只是一個現實，那就是詹姆斯-哈登的合同還剩兩年。

And while there have been players that have been able to force a trade with two years left on their contract in recent years, It doesn't give him maximum leverage.

雖然近年來也有球員在合同還剩兩年的情況下強行交易，但這並不能給他帶來最大的籌碼。

And so that means that the Rockets can wait for leverage to develop.

所以這意味著火箭隊可以等待槓桿發展。

Because James Harden changes his mind whether he widens his teams, he's willing to go to whether there's something else happens in the league.

因為詹姆斯-哈登改變了主意，他是否拓寬球隊，他願意去聯盟是否有其他事情發生。

我認為這是一個聰明的遊戲，現在。

It doesn't behoove the Brooklyn Nets to make their best offer.

布魯克林籃網隊不應該提出最好的報價。

When James says, I only want to go there and it doesn't behoove the Rockets to negotiate in a closed market.

當詹姆斯說，我只想去那裡，火箭隊不應該在一個封閉的市場上談判。

So as a result, we're probably going to get, Zack said.

所以結果，我們可能會得到，扎克說。

I've talked to some people around Houston, and part of this also is that a Tilman Fertitta feels very hurt by this by the idea that you know, he hired Stephen Silas kind of as a olive branch with the players.

我和休斯敦周圍的一些人談過，這其中也有一部分是蒂爾曼-費蒂塔覺得很受傷，因為你知道，他僱傭斯蒂芬-西拉斯算是向球員們伸出了橄欖枝。

Tyler ends up with the Clippers so they end up with Stephen.

泰勒最後加入了快船隊，所以他們最終選擇了斯蒂芬。

Silas has kind of like the the compromise between the two different parties, and so the players signed off on it and then almost immediately said, Yeah, by the way, trade us.

Silas就像雙方的妥協一樣，所以球員們簽了字，然後幾乎是立刻說，是的，順便把我們交易出去。

And if that were the case from the beginning, well, then Tillman would have hired the guy he wanted to hire to start with.

如果從一開始就是這樣，那麼，蒂爾曼一開始就會僱傭他想僱傭的人。

So I think part of this is beyond what Brian is talking about leverage and negotiation, which I think is astute from from Houston's perspective partner also like not the hell with that.

所以，我認為這部分是超越了布萊恩所說的槓桿和談判，我認為從休斯頓的角度合作伙伴也像不地獄的精明。

You're going to be here and that when you hear that statement of we're prepared for it to get uncomfortable, that is them sending out the flare that Yeah, that's right.

你要在這裡，當你聽到我們準備好了這句話，讓人不舒服的時候，那是他們發出的信號彈，是的，沒錯。

We're gonna make this really uncomfortable.

我們會讓這一切變得很不舒服。

I don't know that's a good strategy of announcing it, but it does definitely indicate of the level of hurt from the Rockets standpoint.

我不知道這是不是一個好的宣佈策略，但從火箭隊的立場來看，這確實表明了傷害的程度。

Yeah, that was a quote to our Tim MacMahon.

是的，那是對我們的蒂姆-麥克馬洪的引用。

Paul, if you were James Harden, how would you play this?

保羅，如果你是詹姆斯-哈登，你會怎麼玩這個？

Well, I mean, he's already played it the way he wants to play, and he showed that he's been disgruntled.

好吧，我的意思是，他已經按照自己想玩的方式玩了，他表現出了他的不滿。

Uh, he's a superstar in this league, and these guys don't come about too often for the Houston Rockets.

呃，他是這個聯盟裡的超級巨星，這種人對於休斯敦火箭隊來說並不多見。

And but if I'm Houston, it's hard for me to budge.

但如果我是休斯頓人，我很難讓步。

Like I said, players of this caliber do not come to your franchise.

就像我說的，這種級別的球員不會來你的加盟店。

He's probably the one of the top three players to ever put on a Houston uniform.

他可能是曾經穿上休斯頓隊服的三大球員之一。

And if you see him leave and going to rebuild, I've seen teams rebuild for over 20 years for, ah, whole generation rebuild because they don't have this type of player.

如果你看到他離開，去重建，我看到球隊重建了20多年，為啊，整整一代人的重建，因為他們沒有這種類型的球員。

And so hopefully there's someone they could work it out.

所以希望有一個人他們可以解決。

But if not, you know, I can't imagine them being there before Christmas.

但如果沒有，你知道，我無法想象他們在聖誕節前會在那裡。

I was just gonna say the crazy thing is, though we see this happen the other side, I get what Paul is saying, but also, if he doesn't wanna be there, you got a new coach is trying to put in a new system.

我只是想說，瘋狂的事情是，雖然我們看到這種情況發生在另一邊，我明白保羅的意思，但是，如果他不想在那裡，你有一個新的教練正在試圖建立一個新的系統。

How much is he gonna be bought in into executing the new system or being amenable?

他要被買進多少執行新制度或被安利？

When a player doesn't like his deal or where he is, he sits out in the n b A.

當一個球員不喜歡他的交易或他所處的位置時，他就會坐在n b A中。

When a player doesn't like a situation he shows up and he makes things uncomfortable.

當一個球員不喜歡的情況下，他就會出現，他讓事情變得不舒服。

And my standpoint is always the player can always make it way more uncomfortable for the team than vice versa, especially when you're a star like Harden e here, you and I know that's true.

而我的觀點是，球員總是可以讓球隊比反之更不舒服，尤其是當你是哈登e這裡的明星，你我都知道這是真的。

I hear you and I know that's true and we've seen it with players, certainly in the past we saw Jimmy Butler who said, You're trading me, right?

我聽到了，我知道這是真的，我們也看到了球員的情況，當然過去我們看到吉米-巴特勒說，你要交易我，對嗎？

We've seen Anthony Davis, who a year and a half before his deal was up, said, Hey, trade me.

我們已經看到安東尼-戴維斯，在他的合約到期前一年半，他說，嘿，交易我。

But there is still the fact and Brian and I have had, I think, approximately 306 conversations about if a guy has two years left on his contract, like with, say, Kyrie Irving.

但仍然有一個事實，布萊恩和我認為，大約有306次對話，關於一個人是否還有兩年的合同，比如說，凱里歐文。

We talked about this a lot a few years ago.

幾年前我們就經常討論這個問題。

And there is a point where an owner can say to the player, Hey, guess what?

而有一點，老闆可以對球員說，嘿，你猜怎麼著？

You had us give up all these assets for Russell Westbrook.

你讓我們為了Russell Westbrook放棄了所有的資產。

We got you Russell Westbrook, as you just described with the coaching situation.

我們給你找來了拉塞爾-威斯布魯克，就像你剛才描述的教練情況。

You had input on the coach you made decisions differently than we might have made.

你對教練有意見，你做出的決定和我們可能做出的不同。

You're going to play here for a little while and we know that.

你要在這裡玩一會兒，我們知道。

值得稱讚的是，他每天都會出現。

He is like scoring his points, and I would expect some natural buy in from him just because he likes going out and hooping.

他就像得分一樣，我希望他能有一些自然的買單，就因為他喜歡出去打籃球。

So it is going to be interesting to see how this goes going forward.

是以，這將是有趣的事情，看看這一切如何發展。

If he doesn't end up going to the Nets, though, Zack, how does that influence how the Nets play the next few months?

如果他最終沒有去網隊，不過，扎克，這對網隊未來幾個月的打法有什麼影響？

I saw Bradley Beal tweet a few minutes ago.

我幾分鐘前看到布拉德利-比爾的推特了。

And, honestly, my heart skipped a beat because any player tweeting anything right now, you're like, Wait, what's going on?

說實話，我的心都快跳出來了，因為現在任何一個球員在推特上發任何東西，你都會想，等等，這是怎麼回事？

Bradley Beal has said that he wants to stay in Washington and see how things work out with John Wall.

布拉德利-比爾表示，他想留在華盛頓，看看約翰-沃爾的情況如何。

But obviously he has been a target and something that a guy that people have mentioned in Brooklyn Well, look, if the Nets best offer isn't enough to get James Harden, I'm not sure why it would be enough to get Bradley Bill Bradley Beal is five or six years younger than James Harden and is coming into his own is a superstar, a legit superstar in the NBA, so it remains TBD.

但很明顯，他一直是一個目標，也是一個人在布魯克林提到的東西嗯，聽著，如果網隊最好的報價不足以得到詹姆斯-哈登，我不知道為什麼它會足以得到布拉德利比爾布拉德利-比爾比詹姆斯-哈登年輕五六歲，並且正在進入他自己是一個超級明星，一個合法的超級明星在NBA，所以它仍然是待定。

If they could really get that on the table, we'll see.

如果他們真的能把這一點擺在桌面上，我們就會看到。

There are other teams, including the Denver Nuggets, I think, with Michael Porter Jr.

還有其他球隊，包括丹佛掘金隊，我想，小邁克爾-波特。

Who can trump, who have at least one asset that Trump's anything Brooklyn can throw out.

誰能特朗普，誰至少有一個資產，特朗普的什麼布魯克林都能扔出去。

Brooklyn needs to throw the whole kitchen sink unless you get to the point of throwing Kyrie in, In which case, things have gone really crazy.

布魯克林需要把整個廚房水槽扔掉，除非你到了把凱里扔進去的地步，在這種情況下，事情已經變得非常瘋狂。

But to your initial question, the Brooklyn Nets have Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving.

但對於你最初的問題，布魯克林籃網隊有凱文-杜蘭特和凱里-歐文。

We were throwing all like parties in New York because they got these two superstars.

我們在紐約舉辦了所有的聚會 因為他們有這兩個超級明星。

They're probably going to resign Joe Harris tonight.

他們可能今晚就會辭掉喬-哈里斯。

What the Brooklyn Nets could do is say, Okay, James Harden, will, I guess, be in the conversation for a while.

布魯克林籃網隊可以做的是說，好吧，詹姆斯-哈登，會，我想，會有一段時間的話題。

In the meantime, we have a damn good team.

同時，我們有一個該死的好團隊。

Are you saying you would rather have Bradley Beal on your team than James Harden.

你是說你寧願讓布拉德利-比爾在你的球隊裡，而不是詹姆斯-哈登。

I think their trade value if and when they hit the market should probably be equal, even though that James, even though James has accomplished much more in his career, he's five years older.

我覺得他們的交易價值如果和上市後的交易價值可能應該是相等的，即使那個詹姆斯，即使詹姆斯在職業生涯中取得了更多的成就，但他比詹姆斯大5歲。

哈登-維斯特布魯克的交易傳奇讓蒂爾曼-費蒂塔感到 "很受傷"--Amin Elhassan | The Jump (The Harden-Westbrook trade saga has Tilman Fertitta feeling 'very hurt' - Amin Elhassan | The Jump)