When it comes to Harden, is it hardened?

說到哈登，是不是硬邦邦的？

Or is it the Rockets?

還是火箭隊？

Well, to me, it's It's always the team when you have a player under contract to a lesser degree.

嗯，對我來說，當你有一個球員在合同中的程度較低時，它總是團隊。

For example, Max, I would use that Prescott, even though we're talking apples and oranges to some degree as it pertains to football compared to basketball.

例如，馬克斯，我會用那個普雷斯科特，儘管我們在某種程度上談論的是蘋果和橘子，因為它涉及足球與籃球相比。

The fact of the matter is that when you have the license to franchise tag Dak Prescott, not just one year but another year, what have you?

事實是，當你有特許標籤達克-普雷斯科特的許可，不只是一年，而是另一年，你有什麼？

You can go to the negotiating table.

你可以到談判桌上去。

You don't necessarily have to capitulate to his demands or his wishes.

你不一定要屈服於他的要求或願望。

Andi ends up stuck in the situation that he has to work with.

安迪最終被困在他不得不與之合作的局面中。

The situation is similar with James Harden in this regard.

在這方面，詹姆斯-哈登的情況也類似。

The fact is, he's old 41 million up.

事實是，他老4100萬了。

I'm sorry 30 years, 41.2 million this upcoming season and then 44 million the next season before his player option kicks.

對不起，30年，4120萬這個下個賽季，然後4400萬下個賽季他的球員選項踢之前。

And so he's under contract now.

所以他現在的合同。

Obviously, he's a superstar in this league, and you don't want to disgruntled James Harden.

很顯然，他是這個聯盟的超級巨星，你不希望詹姆斯-哈登不滿。

But the flip side is he is under contract And so it's one thing to sit up there and say You want out.

但反過來說，他有合同在身，所以坐在那裡說你想退出是一回事。

It's another thing to literally designate a particular team.

從字面上看，指定某個團隊是另一回事。

You want to land towards the Houston Rockets.

你要向休斯頓火箭隊降落。

No, they want fair and equitable compensation, and that's far difficult to do when a player comes out and says that specifically is where I wanna go because you could always say that didn't necessarily work out as opposed to a guy that just says, Just get me the hell up out of here.

不，他們要的是公平公正的補償，當一個球員出來說，特別是我想去的地方時，那是很難做到的，因為你總可以說那不一定能成功，而不是一個人說，讓我離開這裡吧。

You can't sit up there and say You can't find some place for him to go But when he wants one particular place, that's much harder to do.

你不能坐在那裡說你找不到地方讓他去 但當他想去一個特別的地方時，那就更難了。

Those are the reasons why.

這些都是原因。

I think along with Dwight Howard and the CP three situation with Hard and Max were hard and one of them gone.

我覺得連同德懷特-霍華德和硬、麥克斯的CP三形勢都很難，其中一個走了。

I think those are the kind of things that puts Houston in some position of leverage.

我認為這些都是讓休斯頓處於一定的籌碼地位。

They both have leverage.

他們都有槓桿作用。

That's true.

這倒是真的。

But if the question is who has more leverage, I'll say James Harden, I agree.

但如果問到誰更有籌碼，我會說詹姆斯-哈登，我同意。

If he says I only wanna play for Brooklyn, Houston and tell him tough, we're not gonna send you to Brooklyn.

如果他說我只想為布魯克林、休斯頓打球，告訴他，我們不會把你送到布魯克林去。

But with another team really try to make a move and mortgage, you know, like mortgage the house for James Harden.

但與另一支球隊真的嘗試做出移動和抵押，你知道，就像抵押房子的詹姆斯-哈登。

If they believed he wasn't gonna stay there, it's possible.

如果他們認為他不會留在那裡，那就有可能。

Maybe a team like Philadelphia says, Well, he thinks he wants Brooklyn Now, if we get him down here, he'll want to stay or something like that.

也許像費城這樣的球隊會說："他認為他想要布魯克林，如果我們把他弄到這裡來，他就會想留下來，或者類似的事情。

Um, I don't know, though, that they bring the kind of deal that it would take to move them that the Rockets would really like.

嗯，我不知道，不過，他們帶來的那種交易，會讓火箭隊真正喜歡上他們。

Now I agree the team has some leverage because it's a two year contract.

現在我同意球隊有一些籌碼，因為這是一份兩年的合同。

If it was two years left on the deal, then it's a player option.

如果是還剩兩年的合約，那麼就是球員選項。

If it was one year left on the deal, they really wouldn't have much because he'd be like, Look, you're gonna be left holding the bag.

如果只剩一年的合約，他們真的不會有太多 因為他會說，你看，你會被留下拿著袋子。

You gotta move me.

你得讓我走。

You gotta move me now or trade deadline on by then, you really only have them for a short rental if you're not the Brooklyn Nets, so the team doesn't get much back.

你得現在就給我搬走，不然到時候交易截止日上，如果你不是布魯克林籃網隊，你真的只能把他們短租給他們，所以球隊也拿不到多少回報。

Um, the team has some leverage, but the NBA superstars, eh?

嗯，球隊有一定的籌碼，但NBA的超級球星，嗯？

NBA superstars have enormous leverage.

NBA超級巨星擁有巨大的影響力。

This is a player driven league.

這是一個以玩家為主導的聯盟。

I've said it many times in Major League Baseball.

我在美國大聯盟說過很多次了。

Most important person in the franchise is the GM.

加盟店最重要的人是總經理。

In the NFL, the most important person is the head coach, and in the n B A.

在NFL，最重要的人是主教練，而在n B A。

The most important person is the franchise player.

最重要的人是加盟玩家。

James Harden, as a franchise player, is legit.

詹姆斯-哈登，作為一名加盟球員，是合法的。

MVP caliber player has enormous leverage here.

MVP級別的球員在這裡有巨大的籌碼。

It's not that his team doesn't have any, but he has more.

不是他的團隊沒有，而是他的團隊更多。

And if he says he wants to play for the Nets, good luck getting a deal where you're getting any kind of really value for him.

如果他說他想為籃網隊打球，那就祝你好運，你能為他得到任何一種真正有價值的交易。

If it's not at least a three way deal or a four way deal, where Harden winds up where he wants to be.

如果不是至少是三方交易或者四方交易，哈登在哪裡贏到他想去的地方。

All right, well, we are bringing someone in to break the tie.

好了，好了，我們要帶一個人進來打破平局。

We've got MBA champion Kendrick Perkins in the House.

我們請到了MBA冠軍Kendrick Perkins在這裡。

All right, so perk.

好吧，所以養生。

The question here is who has more leverage in the situation as it pertains to harden.

這裡的問題是，在這種情況下，誰的籌碼更多，因為這關係到硬。

Is it Harden or the Rockets?

是哈登還是火箭？

Stephen A.

Stephen A.

Said it was the Rockets.

說是火箭隊。

Max said Harden.

馬克斯說哈登。

So what do you think?

你覺得怎麼樣？

It's the Rockets by a long shot?

遙遙領先的是火箭隊？

James Harden has no leverage right now because he's under two.

詹姆斯-哈登現在沒有任何籌碼，因為他還不到兩歲。

He still have two years left on this contract, and we see that right now.

他的合同還剩兩年，我們現在就看到了這一點。

If James Harden had all the leverage, the trade would have been done.

如果詹姆斯-哈登有所有的籌碼，交易就會完成。

The Rockets are in control.

火箭隊已經控制了局面。

They don't have to trade James Harden.

他們不一定要交易詹姆斯-哈登。

He signed to the Houston Rockets.

他簽約休斯頓火箭隊。

They could hold onto him until the remainder of his contract is done.

他們可以留住他，直到他合同的剩餘部分完成。

So they don't have to trade him.

所以，他們沒有交易他。

And they definitely don't have to trade them toe what he wanna be traded?

而且他們絕對不需要把他們交易到什麼他想被交易？

They don't owe him that.

他們不欠他的。

So right now, let me tell you something.

所以現在，讓我告訴你一些事情。

The thing with James Harden messed up it is that he should have kept the trade in house and not made it public.

詹姆斯-哈登搞砸的事情是，他應該把交易放在內部，而不是公開。

When you make it public now you make so many, you make bad, you make it hard for everyone.

你現在公開的時候，你弄了這麼多，你弄得不好，你讓大家很難受。

And you could almost have the organization be rebellious.

而且你幾乎可以讓組織反叛。

Especially when you pick a destination.

尤其是當你選擇了一個目的地。

Because look, like I said before, the Rockets are not just gonna give James Harden away.

因為你看，就像我之前說的，火箭隊是不會隨便送走詹姆斯-哈登的。

I said this yesterday.

我昨天就說過了。

James Harden, is they Rose Royce?

詹姆斯-哈登，他們是羅斯-羅伊斯嗎？

And they're not about to just trade him for escalating to Audi trucks.

而且他們也不打算就這樣把他換成升級為奧迪卡車。

No, they're gonna want back off for Rory or something to that nature.

不，他們會為了羅利或其他什麼東西而後退。

So right now, the Houston Rockets have all the leverage, and they're showing us that because they're not giving into what he wants on day two, they're not well, well, let me say this to you, KP They are trying, though.

所以現在，休斯敦火箭隊擁有所有的籌碼，他們向我們展示，因為他們沒有在第二天讓步到他想要的東西，他們沒有好，好，讓我告訴你，KP他們正在努力，雖然。

I mean, they just they just like you said, they want the farm.

我的意思是，他們只是... ...就像你說的，他們想要農場。

They ain't giving them away for nothing.

他們不會白白送人的。

They they've got to get significant compensation for him.

他們必須為他爭取到大量的補償。

You're absolutely right about that.

你說的很對

But they recognized that he wants to leave, and here's why.

但他們認識到他想離開，這就是原因。

I'm told they don't necessarily have a problem with it.

聽說他們不一定有問題。

They understand where they are.

他們明白自己在哪裡。

They know they want to get significant compensation for him.

他們知道他們想為他獲得大量的補償。

But James Harden has made it clear to them he loves Houston.

但詹姆斯-哈登已經向他們明確表示，他愛休斯頓。

It's where he'd like to end his career.

這是他想結束自己職業生涯的地方。

It's just that at this stage in point, he knows they can't win a title.

只是在這個階段的時間點上，他知道他們無法奪冠。

So he wants to go somewhere to win a title and then hopefully return before his career is over.

所以他想去某個地方贏得一個冠軍，然後希望在職業生涯結束前回歸。

If you believe that, the bottom line is is that James Harder, you are absolutely right.

如果你相信，底線是詹姆斯-哈德，你是絕對正確的。

Like I said earlier, I don't believe he has the leverage, but I believe the reason that his leverage have diminished so significantly is because he pinpointed the one particular team he wanted to go to if he said, I just wanted out.

就像我之前說的，我不相信他有槓桿作用，但我相信他的槓桿作用已經減少了這麼多，是因為他準確地指出了一個特定的球隊，他想去，如果他說，我只是想退出。

Well, you could work out a deal with a multitude of teams to get him up out of there.

好吧，你可以和眾多的球隊達成協議，讓他離開那裡。

But the fact that you pinpointed Brooke Flynn now it's gonna be incoming upon Brooklyn A to decide if they want you be how bad they want you and see what assets they're willing to give up.

但事實上你已經鎖定了布魯克-弗林... ...現在布魯克林A隊要決定他們是否想要你... ...他們有多想要你... ...看看他們願意放棄什麼資產。

And D.

而D．

Who can I work with in terms of a 13 around the league toe?

在聯賽腳趾周圍的13方面，我可以和誰合作？

Help acquire the assets for us to give to Houston so we could get James Hearted.

幫助收購資產，讓我們給休斯頓，這樣我們就可以得到詹姆斯-赫德。

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感謝您在YouTube上觀看ESPN的體育直播和優質內容。

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訂閱ESPN，加。