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  • should the Rockets request Kyrie Irving in return for dealing out James Harden?

    火箭是否應該請求凱里-歐文來換取交易掉詹姆斯-哈登?

  • Well, I don't think so.

    我不這麼認為

  • And the reason why I don't think so is because as great as materialist eyes, Kyrie Irving is as much of a box office draw as he is.

    而我之所以不這麼認為,是因為儘管唯物主義的眼光很偉大,但凱里-歐文的票房一樣很吸引人。

  • Three.

    三號

  • Only argument I would make on the on his behalf is being a box office draw.

    我唯一能代表他提出的論點就是成為票房的亮點。

  • Kyrie Irving has shown you he's not interested in being, ah, part of a retooling situation, which is exactly what it would be.

    凱里-歐文已經向你表明,他對成為,啊,重組情況下的一部分不感興趣,這正是會。

  • A.

    A.

  • Both Russell Westbrook and James Harden are going.

    拉塞爾-威斯布魯克和詹姆斯-哈登都要去。

  • If you're talking about pairing him with a superstar, that would be entirely different.

    如果你說的是讓他和一個超級巨星配對,那就完全不同了。

  • But if you're talking about him being the face of the franchise, I think he's graduated from that point.

    但如果你說的是他是特許經營權的代言人,我想他已經從這一點上畢業了。

  • I think that if that's what he wanted to do, and it's clearly what he wanted to do in the past, uh, that would be a situation where you're the Houston Rockets.

    我想,如果那是他想做的,而且很明顯是他過去想做的,呃,那會是一種情況,你是休斯敦火箭隊。

  • That's not gonna be enoughto win basketball games.

    這不是要去enoughto贏得籃球比賽。

  • You're Tilman Fertitta, your GM stone, your new coach, Stephen Silas.

    你是Tilman Fertitta, 你的總經理石, 你的新教練, Stephen Silas.

  • Considering the level of success that you've had, you certainly don't want to fall off the map and not even be a playoff contender when you have James Harden locked up for the next two years along with Russell Westbrook.

    考慮到你已經取得的成功水準,你肯定不想掉隊,當你有詹姆斯-哈登和拉塞爾-威斯布魯克一起鎖定未來兩年的時候,你肯定不想成為季後賽的競爭者。

  • If you're going to lose those guys, you wanna get multiple picks.

    如果你要失去這些人,你要得到多個選秀權。

  • You want to get really, really good players that have the potential to approach greatness, and that's the direction that you want to go on.

    你想得到真正的、非常優秀的球員,他們有潛力接近偉大,這就是你想繼續前進的方向。

  • You don't wanna go.

    你不想去。

  • Even though he's a superstar talent, he's injury prone.

    即使他是巨星級的人才,但他也很容易受傷。

  • There is no doubt about that.

    這一點毋庸置疑。

  • His temperament is questionable and the war.

    他的氣質值得懷疑,而戰。

  • And to be the success of that James Harden in H Town, I think that would be too much to put on Kyrie Irving shoulders alone.

    而要想成為H鎮的那個詹姆斯-哈登的成功,我想這就太不應該放在凱里-歐文一個人的肩上了。

  • I think that would be a bad move, and I don't think that they would think about doing it well, I do think you need to insist upon Kyrie or something like him now, as I keep bringing up the example of the late, great Dr Jerry Buss, by far the greatest owner in the history of American team sports.

    我認為這將是一個糟糕的舉動,我不認為他們會考慮做得很好,我確實認為你現在需要堅持凱里或者他這樣的人,因為我一直在提已故的偉大的傑裡-布斯博士的例子,他是迄今為止美國球隊體育史上最偉大的老闆。

  • The Lakers owner went to Kobe Bryant when Kobe wanted to be traded at a certain point in his career and I keep bringing this up.

    湖人隊老闆在科比職業生涯的某個階段想要被交易的時候,去找了科比-布萊恩特,我一直在提這件事。

  • Kobe, you're a five carat diamond I'm not breaking you down into 51 carat diamonds.

    科比,你是五克拉的鑽石,我不會把你分解成51克拉的鑽石。

  • You're very rare.

    你是非常罕見的。

  • I can't get equal value for you.

    我不能為你爭取同等價值。

  • I'm not gonna trade you.

    我不會跟你交易的

  • But if Hardens in is coming up as a free agent, he's like, Look, you're gonna get nothing for me unless you trade me.

    但如果哈登斯以自由球員的身份出現,他就會說:"聽著,除非你把我交易出去,否則你什麼也得不到。

  • Then you got to get something back.

    那你就得拿點東西回來。

  • And as it so happens, I have a rating system that matches up very well with Dr Busses.

    而恰好,我有一套和布斯博士非常吻合的評級系統。

  • Five carat Diamond thing five stars, five stars You're in M V P.

    五克拉鑽石的事情五顆星,五顆星你在M V P。

  • Four year in All Star three year starter to your rotation piece.

    四年在全明星三年主力到你的輪換片。

  • One.

    一。

  • Your replacement level.

    你的替換級別。

  • James Harden is a five star player.

    詹姆斯-哈登是一名五星球員。

  • Kyrie Irving is 4.5.

    凱里-歐文是4.5。

  • He's not just a regular All star.

    他不僅僅是一個普通的全明星。

  • He's more than that.

    他不只是這樣

  • Are you getting exactly equal value?

    你得到的價值完全相等嗎?

  • No, but you are getting something special that's hard to find now.

    不,但你會得到一些特別的東西,現在很難找到。

  • If it's not Kyrie Irving and the Sixers would be willing to take, say, Caris, Levert and din witty and draft picks for an injured Simmons.

    如果不是凱里-歐文和六人隊願意拿,比如說,卡里斯,勒沃特和din機智和選秀權來換一個受傷的西蒙斯。

  • Right?

    對吧?

  • And you could flip.

    而且你可以翻轉。

  • You could do a three way trade where Simmons winds up on Houston, Kyrie or liver.

    你可以做一個三方交易,西蒙斯贏了休斯頓,凱里或肝。

  • It rather and din witty wind up in Philadelphia.

    它相當和喧囂機智的風在費城。

  • Something like that.

    類似的東西。

  • And you have hardened winds up in Brooklyn.

    而你在布魯克林有硬化的風。

  • Something like that.

    類似的東西。

  • Yes, but the incoming piece to the Rockets can't just be a revert or a din witty or a couple of them.

    是的,但火箭隊的來件不能只是還原或喧囂機智或他們幾個。

  • A couple of 3.5 star guys were one of the Maybe he's a four star guy.

    幾個3.5星的人是其中之一,也許他是一個四星的人。

  • You need some peace coming back that you look at?

    你需要一些平安回來,你看?

  • You think I think that could be a five star player?

    你覺得我覺得那可能是一個五星球員?

  • I think if it's not already a five carat diamond, it can be.

    我覺得如果不是已經是五克拉的鑽石,可以是。

  • Kyrie fits the bill.

    凱里符合這個條件。

  • Then Simmons fits the bill.

    那麼西蒙斯就符合這個條件。

  • And in in terms of New York and Brooklyn and Philadelphia, those were the only two pieces you could realistically expect to get back where you're approximating James Harden value.

    而在紐約、布魯克林和費城方面,這是你能現實地期望得到回你近似詹姆斯-哈登價值的唯一兩塊。

  • You see, Max and Stephen A.

    你看,Max和Stephen A.

  • I agree with you guys both ready for this one, Max.

    我同意你們都準備好了,麥克斯。

  • Of course they should ask for Kyrie Irving Stephen A.

    當然,他們應該要求凱里-歐文-斯蒂芬-A。

  • Just because they asked for K.

    就因為他們要求K。

  • I doesn't mean that uh, you know, Kevin Durant, Child Marks and these guys, they're gonna actually give up K I and the whole thing.

    我並不意味著,呃,你知道,凱文-杜蘭特,童馬克斯和這些傢伙,他們會真正放棄K I和整個事情。

  • Look, these guys been balling out in l.

    聽著,這些傢伙在我這裡打球。

  • A.

    A.

  • In these secret games.

    在這些祕密遊戲中。

  • Okay, Kevin's look amazing.

    好吧,凱文的看起來很不錯。

  • They've been finding this rhythm that they've been playing with James K.

    他們一直在尋找這種節奏,他們一直在和詹姆斯?

  • I and Kevin Durant.

    我和凱文-杜蘭特。

  • So look the juices there.

    所以看看那裡的汁液。

  • The question comes down to Raphael Stone.

    這個問題歸結到拉斐爾-斯通身上。

  • Not a lot of people make mention of his name.

    沒有多少人提到他的名字。

  • He's a passionate, actually basketball mind.

    他是一個充滿激情的人,其實籃球思維。

  • He knows what he's doing.

    他知道他在做什麼。

  • And my thing is, if you can't extract the value that you feel like you deserve for a N D P caliber player like James Harden, you don't have to make any move.

    而我的想法是,如果你不能為詹姆斯-哈登這樣的N D P水準的球員榨取出你覺得應該得到的價值,你就不必做出任何舉動。

  • No, like we can actually hold both of you guys hostages here with our team with the Houston Rockets and weaken weight.

    不,就像我們其實可以用我們的團隊與休斯敦火箭隊在這裡挾持你們兩個人,削弱體重。

  • And we can see what the trade market is like in a couple of months after a season has already got going.

    而在一個賽季已經開始後的幾個月內,我們就可以看到交易市場的情況。

  • Where teams or even Mawr, desperate to put assets on the table to give me for James Harden, our Russell Westbrook.

    凡是球隊甚至是莫爾,急於把資產放在桌子上,給我換詹姆斯-哈登,我們的拉塞爾-威斯布魯克。

  • That's how you operate this thing.

    這就是你操作這東西的方法。

  • So if you if you can't get Jared out, if you want.

    所以如果你... ...如果你不能把傑瑞德弄出來,如果你想的話。

  • Jared Allen, Spencer Dinwiddie, Cara Subvert careering If you feel like that's your dream scenario for a guy like James Harden, who is one of the most prolific scorers you've ever seen in history of the game.

    賈裡德-阿倫、斯賓塞-丁威迪、卡拉顛覆職業如果你覺得這是你夢寐以求的場景,像詹姆斯-哈登這樣的傢伙,他是你見過的歷史上最高產的得分手之一。

  • You don't feel like you get that.

    你不覺得你得到了。

  • Then you hold off, then you hold off and you wait.

    那你就忍著,然後你就忍著,你就等著。

  • And maybe one day, if things aren't going well enough in Brooklyn, maybe they come to the table with something different.

    也許有一天,如果布魯克林的情況不夠好,也許他們會拿出一些不同的東西來。

  • Maybe still not kept kept.

    也許還是沒有保持保持。

  • Uh, Kyrie Irving essay.

    呃,凱里-歐文的文章。

  • But still, maybe they give you future draft picks.

    但還是會給你未來的選秀權。

  • They give you a lot more than what they originally intended to do.

    他們給你的東西比他們的初衷要多得多。

  • So well, a couple of things.

    所以,好了,幾件事。

  • Number one.

    第一。

  • We're not talking about it from the standpoint that Houston's been offered Kyrie Irving.

    我們不是從休斯敦已經提供凱里-歐文的角度來談論它。

  • And should you take him or turn him down or anything like that, we're just saying that, you know, you're speculating as to whether or not that somebody you would want on your squad and replacing James Harden.

    而你是否應該接受他或拒絕他或類似的東西,我們只是說,你知道,你在猜測是否有人你會想在你的球隊和取代詹姆斯-哈登。

  • That's number one.

    這是第一。

  • Number two.

    二號

  • Rafael Stone.

    Rafael Stone.

  • You actually, you're absolutely right.

    其實,你說的很對。

  • He has an impeccable reputation in basketball circles.

    他在籃球圈裡的名聲無可挑剔。

  • Ah, lot of people speak incredibly high off him, and so I wish him nothing but the best happy and proud of the brother to be in the position that he's in until my fatigue A and those guys definitely love him.

    啊,很多人對他的評價非常高,所以我希望他能在我的疲勞A之前,在他的位置,那些人絕對愛他,但最好的幸福和驕傲的兄弟。

  • Number three, though here's the reality of the situation.

    第三條,雖然這裡是現實的情況。

  • When you talk about Kyrie Irvin, we have to think about why James Harden appears to be reportedly so fixated on going to Brooklyn.

    當你談論凱里-歐文時,我們不得不思考為什麼詹姆斯-哈登似乎如此執著於去布魯克林的報道。

  • You want your own version of a Big Three?

    你想要自己版的三巨頭嗎?

  • Apparently, you haven't just been talking to Kevin Durant.

    很顯然,你剛才不是在和凱文-杜蘭特說話。

  • It's the both of them.

    是他們兩個人。

  • We all know that Brooklyn wanted Kevin Durant at all.

    我們都知道,布魯克林根本就想要凱文-杜蘭特。

  • Of course, we all know J that Kyrie probably wouldn't be in Brooklyn if it were not for K D, because Brooklyn wasn't that enamored with bringing him on.

    當然,我們都知道J,如果不是K D,凱里可能不會在布魯克林,因為布魯克林並不是那麼迷戀引進他。

  • Boy, you don't turn down a talent like that, but he wasn't their prized possession.

    孩子,你不會拒絕這樣的人才,但他不是他們的寶貝。

  • They were after K D.

    他們在追殺K D。

  • Kevin Durant.

    凱文-杜蘭特

  • And so this is Kevin Durant situation.

    所以這就是凱文-杜蘭特的情況。

  • Kevin Durant ain't trying to sit up there and and play with Kyrie Irving.

    凱文-杜蘭特不是想坐在那裡和凱里-歐文打球。

  • And then all of a sudden, okay, before you ever play a game in a Brooklyn uniforms, that doesn't matter anymore, because we're gonna take James Harden instead.

    然後突然間,好吧,在你穿著布魯克林隊服打比賽之前,這已經不重要了,因為我們要用詹姆斯-哈登代替。

  • The fantasy is the Big Three, their own version off a Big Three created and spearheaded by Kevin Durant.

    幻想是三巨頭,他們自己的版本脫胎於凱文-杜蘭特創造並帶頭的三巨頭。

  • That's where James Harden comes into the equation.

    這就是詹姆斯-哈登的作用。

  • That's what he's bought into.

    這就是他所相信的。

  • It's not just about being with K D, even though that's his former teammate, It's the combination of the three and the show that they can put on together.

    這不僅僅是和K D在一起的問題,儘管那是他的前隊友,但這是三個人的組合,也是他們能一起上演的節目。

should the Rockets request Kyrie Irving in return for dealing out James Harden?

火箭是否應該請求凱里-歐文來換取交易掉詹姆斯-哈登?

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