ME TONIGHT IS AN EMMY AWARD-WINNING JOURNALIST AND

今晚的我是一位獲得艾美獎的記者，同時也是一名記者。

AUTHOR WHO HOSTS THE LEAD AND STATE OF THE UNION ON CNN,

擔任美國有線電視新聞網 "上司與國情 "節目的作者。

PLEASE WELCOME JAKE TAPPER.

歡迎JAKE TAPPER。

HELLO, JAKE.

你好，傑克。

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US FROM THE NEWS CHAMBER.

謝謝你在新聞中心和我們見面。

THAT IS A VERY-- ARE YOU IN A MUSEUM EXHIBIT RIGHT NOW?

那是一個非常... 你現在是在博物館展覽嗎？

>> MY OFFICE IS DECORATED WITH THE POSTERS OF PEOPLE WHO RAN

>> 我的辦公室裡貼滿了曾經執政的人的海報。

FOR PRESIDENT AND LOST.

主席和失落。

AND DID NOT WIN.

並沒有贏。

AND DID NOT WIN.

並沒有贏。

AND SO YOU MIGHT RECOGNIZE THIS FELLOW, A MEMBER OF YOUR CHURCH.

是以，你可能會認識到這個朋友，你的教會的成員。

>> Stephen: OF COURSE, AL SMITH OF DINNER FAME.

>> Stephen:當然，艾爾-史密斯的晚餐名聲。

>> AND WHO ELSE DO WE HAVE.

>> 我們還有誰呢？

>> Stephen: I SEE THE HILLRIES, I GOT THOSE.

>> 斯蒂芬：我看到了HILLRIES，我得到了這些。

>> YOU HAVE THE HILLRIES, JOHN ASHBROOK FOR PEOPLE WHO THOUGHT

>> 你有了希勒裡夫婦，約翰-阿什布羅克給那些認為的人。

RICHARD NIXON WAS TOO LIBERAL.

理查德-尼克松太自由了。

>> Stephen: GEORGE WALLACE.

>> Stephen:喬治-瓦利斯：

DIXIE UP THERE.

DIXIE在那裡。

>> THERE SAY BIG STROM THURMOND OVER THERE THAT IS A COLLECTORS

>> 那邊有一個大的STROM THURMOND，那是一個收藏家。

EDITION BUT I FELT SO GROSS PUTTING IT UP, I STUCK A STOKELY

但我覺得把它放上去太噁心了，我就把它放上去了。

CARMICHAEL ON IT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTOOD I'M NOT DOWN

卡米凱爾在上面，讓人們明白我沒有倒下。

WITH STROM.

帶STROM。

>> Stephen: LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THIS OFFICE, IS THIS YOUR

>> Stephen:讓我問你關於這個辦公室，這是你的嗎？

OFFICE AT CNN OR A HOME OFFICE.

在CNN的辦公室或家庭辦公室。

>> NO, THIS IS MY-- MY WIFE WOULD NEVER LET ME HAVE THIS

>> 不，這是我的... ... 我的妻子永遠不會讓我有這個。

STUFF AT HOME.

家裡的東西。

>> Stephen: HAVE YOU BEEN ALLOWED TO GO HOME THIS FALL?

>> Stephen:今年秋天你被允許回家了嗎？

BECAUSE I KNOW IT WAS A FIVE DAY PERIOD THAT ANY TIME I TURNED ON

因為我知道這五天的時間裡，每當我開機的時候。

THE TELEVISION YOU WERE AT THE DESK.

你在辦公桌前的電視。

DID YOU-- DID YOU ACTUALLY LIKE SLEEP IN YOUR OFFICE OR

你... ... 你真的喜歡在辦公室裡睡覺嗎？

SOMETHING?

什麼東西？

DID YOU GO HOME AT ALL FOR THOSE FIVE DAYS AND YOU HAVE

那五天你有沒有回過家？

RECOVERED.

恢復了。

>> I DID GO HOME.

>> 我是回家了。

EVEN IF JUST LIKE GO HOME, EVERYBODY IS ASLEEP, WAKE UP

即使只是喜歡回家， 每個人都是睡著了，醒了

BEFORE EVERYBODY WAKES UP WHICH IS WEIRD, RIGHT, IT'S WEIRD.

在每個人醒來之前，這是奇怪的，對，這是奇怪的。

>> Stephen: YEAH.

>> Stephen:是的。

>> I AM STILL CATCHING UP WITH THE SLEEP.

>> 我還在追趕睡眠。

I'M STILL CATCHING UP.

我還在追趕。

BUT I'M GOOD, I'M FAIRLY RECOVERED.

但我很好，我是公平的恢復。

>> Stephen: DID YOU GUYS HAVE TO LOWER JOHN KING INTO LIKE AN

>> Stephen:你們是否要把約翰-金降到像一個人一樣的位置？

ICE BATH EVERY DAY, HE NEVER SEEN SAT DOWN, YOU HAD A CHAIR.

每天洗冰水澡，他從來沒有坐過，你有一把椅子。

>> JOHN IS ACTUALLY AN ANDROID, AS YOU MAY OR MAY NOT BE

>> 約翰實際上是一個機器人，你可能是，也可能不是。

FAMILIAR.

熟悉的。

>> Stephen: OH NO, ALL THE EVIDENCE IS THERE.

>> 史蒂芬：哦，不，所有的證據都在這裡。

>> WE'VE CONSTRUCTED HIM.

>> 我們已經造出了他。

I MEAN HOW DO YOU THINK HE WORKS THAT MACHINE SO WELL.

我是說你覺得他怎麼會有這麼好的機器？

>> Stephen: NO EMOTION, ABSOLUTELY.

>> Stephen:沒有感情，絕對的。

>> YES, HE FINDS IT FUN.

>> 是的，他發現它的樂趣。

>> Stephen: THERE HAVE BEEN FOUR AREAS OF NO SLEEP THOUGH.

>> Stephen:已經有四個區域沒有睡覺了。

>> YES.

>> 是。

>> Stephen: I, I, I POINTED OUT THE OTHER DAY THAT SOMEONE

>> 史蒂芬：我，我，我那天指出了有人

HAD PUT UP A VERY LOVELY PHOTO OF YOU.

他放了一張非常可愛的你的照片。

AND I SAID IT WAS VERY NICE FOR SOMEONE TO PUT UP YOUR PROM

我還說，有人把你的促銷活動貼出來，真是太好了。

PHOTO IS WHEN CNN WON THE WEEK.

照片是當CNN贏得了本週。

HE SAID YES, THOSE FOUR YEARS HAVE AGED US.

他說是的，這四年的時間讓我們老了。

I WANT TO POINT OUT, THIS IS YOU, THIS IS YOU IN 2016.

我想指出，這就是你，這就是2016年的你。

BEFORE ALL THIS MISHUGA.

在這一切之前，MISHUGA，

AND THIS IS YOU TODAY, THIS IS-- OKAY.

而這是你今天，這是 - 好吧。

BY BEFORE YOU GET MAD AT ME FOR POINTING THIS OUT, THIS IS ME IN

在你對我指出這一點而生氣之前，這是我在。

2016, OKAY.

2016年，還好。

THIS IS ME TODAY, TWO ACTUAL PHOTOGRAPHS OF ME.

這就是今天的我，兩張我的真實照片。

>> CAN I SAY.

>> 我可以說：

>> Stephen: YEAH.

>> Stephen:是的。

>> TO OUTGOING PRESIDENT TRUMP, CREDIT, HE LOOKS THE EXACT SAME.

>>對即將離任的總統特朗普，信用，他看起來完全一樣。

HE LOOKS THE EXACT SAME.

他看起來一模一樣。

HE IS THE ONLY PRESIDENT IN THE HISTORY OF THIS COUNTRY WHO HAS

他是這個國家歷史上唯一的一個總統。

NOT AGED A DAY.

不老的一天。

IT'S JUST WE ALL AGED 30 YEARS.

只是我們都老了30歲。

>> Stephen: YES, WE'RE THE PICTURE OF DORIAN GRAY T IS NOT

>> 斯蒂芬：是的，我們是多裡安-格雷的圖片T是不

SUPPOSED TO WORK THAT WAY.

應該是這樣的工作。

>> LIKE BARACK OBAMA, WHEN HE STARTED HE WAS YOUNG, HE WAS

>> 像巴拉克-奧巴馬一樣，當他開始的時候，他還很年輕，他是。

LIKE A WILL SMITH, EIGHT YEARS LATER, MORGAN FREEMAN.

像威爾史密斯，八年後，摩根弗里曼。

>> Stephen: YEAH, BUT VERY DISTINGUISHED.

>> Stephen:是的，但很有距離感。

>> IT HAPPENS.

>> 它發生了。

>> Stephen: HAVE YOU READ HIS BOOK YET?

>> Stephen:你讀過他的書了嗎？

>> NO.

>> NO.

>> Stephen: 701, HOW MUCH?

>> 史蒂芬：701，多少錢？

700 AND PAGES, I LOVED IT, IT WAS GREAT.

700頁，我愛它，它是偉大的。

>> IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A MEMOIR.

>> 它應該是一個回憶錄。

AND NOW IT'S AT LEAST GOING TO BE TWO VOLUMES.

現在至少要出兩捲了。

MY GUESS IS IT WILL END UP BEING AT LEAST FIVE.

我的猜測是，最終會是至少五個。

>> Stephen: IT IS LIKE HE IS HIS OWN ROBERT CARO.

>> Stephen:就好像他是自己的羅伯特-卡洛一樣。

NOW YOU, WE ARE STILL IN WEIRD LIMBO RIGHT NOW.

現在你，我們還在奇怪的LIMBO現在。

>> YEAH.

>> 是的。

>> Stephen: WHERE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE GUY WHO IS LEAVING

>> 史蒂芬: 我們不知道離開的人在哪裡

IS GOING TO DO OR HOW HE'S GOING TO HANDLE THE PROSPECT OF

他將會做什麼或如何處理這個前景。

LEAVING.

離開。

WHAT IS THAT LIKE-- WHAT DOES THAT DO TO YOU JOURNALISTS WHO

那是什麼樣子 -- 那對你們這些記者有什麼影響？

ARE ACTUALLY HAVING TO REPORT ON WHAT'S HAPPENING.

都必須報告發生了什麼。

>> WE KNOW HOW IS HE GOING TO HANDLE IT IN ONE SENSE, WE KNOW

>> 我們知道他要如何處理它在一個意義上，我們知道，

IT IS GOING TO BE POORLY.

會很糟糕的。

HE'S NOT DEALING WITH DEFEAT WELL.

他不處理與失敗很好。

HE'S NOT ACCEPTED IT.

他不接受它。

SO WHAT IS IT LIKE DEALING WITH IT, I MEAN I JUST THINK PART OF

那麼，什麼是它喜歡處理它， 我的意思是，我只是認為部分的

IT IS JUST EXPLAINING TO PEOPLE HE LOST.

它只是向人們解釋他失去了。

THAT IS THE REALITY.

這就是現實。

THERE IS NO LEGAL PALT PATH, ALL OF THESE LAWSUITS WITH A COUPLE

沒有合法的PALT PATH，所有這些訴訟與一個夫婦。

OF EXCEPTIONS ARE RIDICULOUS.

的例外是可笑的。

THERE IS NO WAY HE IS GOING TO OVERTURN ENOUGH VOTES IN ENOUGH

有沒有辦法，他要去翻轉 足夠多的選票在足夠多的

STATES IT IS JUST NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

說明它只是不會發生。

>> Stephen: DO YOU HAVE GUESTS THAT COME ON AND SAY WELL, WE'LL

>> Stephen:你是否有客人來了，說好，我們會。

SEE.

請看：

>> NO.

>> NO.

>> Stephen: YOU DON'T?

>> 你沒有？

>> NO, I DON'T BOOKS TO GUESTS.

>> 不，我不給客人看書。

>> Stephen: NOT ANY MORE.

>> Stephen:不再是了。

>> I STOPPED BOOKING JUST OUT AND OUT LIARS AWHILE AGO.

>> 我很久以前就停止了對 "剛出來的金光黨 "的預訂。

BUT I MEAN YEAH, NO, JOE BIDEN WILL BE SWORN IN ON JANUARY

但我的意思是，是的，不，喬-比登將在1月宣誓就職。

20th, 2021.

20日，2021年。

PERIOD.

期間。

>> Stephen: WE'LL SEE.

>> Stephen:我們會看到。

WE'LL SEE.

我們會看到。

>> NO, THERE IS NO WE'LL SEE.

>> 不，沒有我們會看到的。

>> Stephen: A LOT OF CURT CASES OUT THERE, JAKE.

>> 很多法庭案件在那裡，傑克。

>> I LOOKED THAT A BUNCH OF THEM, YOU KNOW.

>> 我看了很多，你知道的。

>> Stephen: REALLY?

>> Stephen:真的嗎？

>> AND THEY'RE NONSENSE.

>> 而他們是無稽之談。

LIKE IT'S HONESTLY, IT'S LIKE-- BECAUSE THE STANDARD OF

就像它是誠實的，這就像 - 因為標準的。

EVIDENCE IN A COURT ROOM SAY LITTLE HIGHER THAN ON TWITTER.

證據在法庭上說的比在微博上說的高一點。

>> Stephen: SURE.

>> Stephen: SURE.

>> SO AS DONALD TRUMP SAYS, WE DON'T HAVE ANY OBSERVERS IN THAT

>> 是以，正如唐納德-特朗普所說，我們沒有任何觀察者在那。

PHILADELPHIA CONVENTION CENTER COUNTING ROOM.

PHILADELPHIA CONVENTION CENTER COUNTING ROOM.

AND THEN SOMEBODY TRIES TO PRESENT THAT, IN COURT.

然後有人試圖在法庭上陳述這些。

AND THE JUDGE SAYS HOW MANY DO YOU HAVE.

法官問你有多少人？

HOW MANY OBSERVERS AND THE LAWYER SHEEPISHLY SAYS WE HAVE

有多少觀察者和律師羊皮說我們有。

A, THIS SAY QUOTE, THERE IS A NONZERO NUMBER.

A，這個說辭，有一個非零的數字。

A NONZERO NUMBER OF OBSERVERS.

觀察者人數不多。

>> Stephen: SO SOME.

>> 史蒂芬：所以一些。

>> YEAH.

>> 是的。

>> Stephen: AND I BELIEVE THE JUDGE THEN SAID GET THE [BLEEP]

>> 斯蒂芬：我相信法官然後說，得到[嗶]。

OUT.

出。

>> RIGHT, RIGHT.

>> 右邊，右邊。

>> Stephen: BUT JAKE, I WANT TO HE ARE MIND YOU, I WANT TO

>> 但傑克，我想他是介意你，我想。

REMIND YOU THAT RUDY GIULIANI IS IN CHARGE NOW, RUDY IS IN THE

提醒你，魯迪-吉利安尼現在是負責人，魯迪在這裡

DRIVER'S SEAT NOW, ANYTHING COULD HAPPEN.

現在的司機座位，任何事情都可能發生。

PHYSICAL LAWS OF THE UNIVERSE NO LONGER APPLY IF RUDY IS GOING TO

宇宙的物理規律不再適用，如果魯迪要去。

TAKE OVER THIS THING.

接管這件事。

>> I THINK ANYBODY WHO WATCHED THE PRESS CONFERENCE AT FOUR

>> 我想任何一個看過新聞發佈會的人都會知道，在四樓的新聞發佈會上。

SEASONS TOTAL LANDSCAPING NORTH OF THE BRUJ RIGHT NEAR THE SEX

在BRUJ以北，靠近SEX的季節總景觀。

SHOP AND ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE CREMATORIUM WHERE HE

從他所在的墓地穿過商店和馬路。

PRESENTED HIS EVIDENCE WHICH INCLUDED SOMEBODY FROM NEW

提交了他的證據，其中包括一些來自新澤西州的人。

JERSEY WHO WAS A REGISTERED SEX O FIPPEDDER, I THINK ANYBODY WHO

傑西是一個註冊的性愛者，我想任何人都會有這樣的經歷

SAW THAT WOULD THINK THIS IS THE CLARENCE DAR OWE OF OUR

鋸子會認為這是我們的清晰度達。

TIME-- DARROW OF OUR TIME.

時間--我們時代的曙光。

>> Stephen: WE HAVE TO TAKE A BREAK BUT WHEN WE COME BACK I

>> Stephen:我們必須休息一下，但當我們回來時，我...

WILL ASK JAKE ABOUT HIS KFERTIONZ WITH ANTHONY FAUCI

會問JAKE關於他和ANTHONY FAUCI的KFERTZ的事。

ABOUT HOW THO LACK OF TRANSITION IS GOING TO SLOW DOWN COVID

關於缺乏轉型的速度將如何放慢？

PREPAREDNESS.

準備工作；

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

我們馬上回來。