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Bobby Marks, ESPN front office insider joins us on the Shell Pennzoil Performance line.

ESPN前臺內部人士Bobby Marks和我們一起探討殼牌奔跑油性能系列。

Mac lobby There a group with a full 100%.

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哪些球隊可以換來威斯布魯克？

I mean, I think you're looking at probably teams that are rebuilding, right?

我是說，我想你看的可能是正在重建的球隊，對吧？

If you think your team like Charlotte or Detroit and that is your main marquee free agent that you can't get this off season and you slide them in with, you know, potentially cap space or sending out expiring contracts, I think those are your teams you're looking at.

如果你認為你的球隊像夏洛特或底特律，這是你的主要標誌自由球員，你不能在這個休賽期得到，你用，你知道，潛在的上限空間或發送到期合同，我認為這些是你的球隊，你正在尋找。

I think if you're New York and then the question I wrote up yesterday was if If If, if Russell Westbrook was a free agent, would you pay three years, $132 million for right now, knowing you know everything is his body has gone through, and I'm not sure I don't think I would Max.

我想如果你是紐約，然後我昨天寫的問題是如果如果如果，如果拉塞爾-威斯布魯克是一個自由球員，你會支付三年，1.32億美元的權利，知道你知道一切是他的身體已經經歷了，我不確定我不認為我會最大。

所以，我認為這些都是你的團隊。

You know, it's Charlotte's of the world that maybe Orlando, um, Detroit.

你知道，這是夏洛特的世界 也許奧蘭多，嗯，底特律。

It's hard for me to sink the Clippers, um can get the money to work.

我很難降服快船隊，嗯可以拿錢去工作。

And you basically have to send four or five players out saying that the Lakers is just that he makes so much money, you know?

而且你基本上要派四五個球員出去，說湖人就是他賺了這麼多錢，你知道嗎？

He's at 41 million, and you gotta basically sent about $33 million out.

他現在是4100萬，你基本上得送出去3300萬左右。

I thought he was hard to trade a year ago.

I was surprised that Houston, um you know, did that and had to give up so much to do it.

我很驚訝，休斯敦，嗯，你知道的，做到這一點，必須放棄這麼多才行。

I think it's It's certainly Mawr diminished.

Well, the thing is, he still really good.

好吧，問題是，他還是很不錯的。

Like sometimes I think we have a tendency to look at what's next and what a guy makes.

就像有時候我覺得我們有一種傾向，就是看下一步是什麼，看一個人做什麼。

And is he ascending or descending and then overlooked the fact that a guy is really good?

而他是上升還是下降，然後忽略了一個事實，一個人真的很好嗎？

But his skill set is redundant with with guys like The freak, you know, like he's the guy who collapses, that he has to be the primary ball handler, collapse the defense, but he can't shoot, and there are enough like there's some teams who are really looking for that second star, but they need that second start to be able to shoot.

但他的技能組合是多餘的與傢伙像怪胎，你知道，像他是誰崩潰的傢伙，他必須是主要的球處理，崩潰的防守，但他不能投籃，有足夠的像有一些球隊誰是真正的尋找第二個明星，但他們需要第二個開始能夠投籃。

That's why, Bobby, when I survey the landscape, I don't care.

這就是為什麼，鮑比，當我觀察風景時，我不在乎。

Oh, there's a new sheriff in town in New York and all this stuff the Knicks.

哦，紐約城裡來了個新警長，還有尼克斯隊的這些事。

You know, Dolan's gonna be sitting there going, Wait a minute.

你知道 Dolan會坐在那裡說 "等一下

I could sell tickets at the Garden will be respectable.

我可以在園子裡賣票將是可敬的。

You know, New Yorkers will appreciate his style of play.

你知道，紐約人會欣賞他的球風。

I'm like, What do the Knicks have on the books right now?

我想，尼克斯隊現在賬面上有什麼？

I look at a team like the Knicks and think, you know, Dolan will find this irresistible.

我看著像尼克斯這樣的球隊，我想，你知道，多蘭會覺得這是不可抗拒的。

Yeah, I mean, and they would still have room in 21 to go out and get another guy.

是啊，我的意思是，他們仍然會有空間 在21去得到另一個人。

I mean, I think you're basically Russell would equal all those players on these non guaranteed contract.

我的意思是，我認為你基本上拉塞爾會等於所有這些非保障合同的球員。

Taj Gibson, the Elfrid Payton, the Wayne Ellington.

泰姬-吉布森，艾弗裡德-佩頓，韋恩-艾靈頓。

Um you know, um, Reggie Bullocks of the of the world.

嗯... ...你知道的，嗯，世界上的雷吉-布洛克。

I mean, you could basically just slide in.

我的意思是，你可以基本上只是滑入。

It's just a matter of what you want to give up.

And, you know, they are, you know, certainly flush with assets.

而且，你知道，他們是，你知道，肯定是有資產的。

The Dallas picks the clippers pick, you know, certainly not their own pick here.

達拉斯選的是剪子選的，你知道，這裡肯定不是自己選的。

So, yeah, if that if that makes sense to you and you've got a comfort, love and you're right, you're right.

所以，是的，如果那如果對你有意義，你有一個安慰，愛，你是對的，你是對的。

We always look at the contract of a player.

Um, and he is still a heck of a player, right?

嗯，而且他還是個了不起的球員，對吧？

But it is all a matter of where does he fit the best here.

但這都是他在這裡最合適的問題。

And hey would certainly have had center stage in, um, in New York.

而且他們肯定會有中心舞臺 在，嗯，在紐約。

I'm looking at Harden, and if he wants out as well, I would think it would be very difficult to get equal value for him.

我看中的是哈登，如果他也想退出，我想他很難得到同等價值。

Although the Warriors have the second overall pick, right?

雖然勇士有第二順位選秀權吧？

I don't know if people think Wiggins has value or not, because he also makes a lot of money and his underachieved in his career.

我不知道大家覺得威金斯有沒有價值，因為他也賺了很多錢，而且他的職業生涯成績不佳。

They always play better defense recently.

Um, but, you know, like Stephen a brought up on on first take today.

嗯，但是，你知道，就像斯蒂芬一個帶來了 在今天的第一次採取。

Ben Simmons and I think about Simmons coming off a big injury.

本-西蒙斯和我想到西蒙斯大傷初愈。

But, you know, he's he's a great defender.

但是，你知道，他是... ...他是一個偉大的後衛。

He creates more open looks for teammates than anyone in basketball.

他比籃球界任何人都能為隊友創造更多的空位機會。

The only thing he doesn't do his chute he doesn't shoot it all, but he does everything else at a totally elite level.

他唯一不做的就是他的滑道他不全射，但他做的其他事情完全是精英級別的。

他從來沒有真正擁有自己的團隊。

There's no one clog in the middle in Houston.

在休斯頓，中間沒有一個堵塞的地方。

If Westbrook and Harden or God, what's the likelihood?

如果威斯布魯克和哈登還是上帝，可能性有多大？

Especially with Maurice presence in Philly of a swap?

尤其是莫里斯在費城存在的交換？

Having, I think with Harden, um, you know, we were ranking best contracts or, you know, for best value.

有了，我想與哈登，嗯，你知道，我們是排名最好的合同，或者，你知道，為最佳價值。

Um, he would be right up there because usually these type of players, he's franchise level players.

嗯，他會在那裡，因為通常這種類型的球員，他是特許經營級別的球員。

You're usually moving them when they're on an expiring when they're in their last year.

你通常是在他們最後一年到期的時候才動他們。

Um, but with James, you've got him for three years here, and that is a tremendous amount of value.

嗯，但是對於詹姆斯來說，你已經讓他在這裡待了三年，這是一個巨大的價值。

And I, I think with you mentioned Golden State, um, you know, they do have the number two pick.

而我，我想你提到的金州，嗯，你知道，他們確實有二號選秀權。

They also have that Minnesota pick in 2021 which is probably more valuable than this year, this year's pick in this year's draft.

他們還有2021年的那個明尼蘇達選秀權，這可能比今年的選秀權、今年的選秀權更有價值。

You could certainly make the money work if that's what Golden State Houston is looking to do.

如果這就是金州休斯頓的目的，你當然可以讓錢發揮作用。

然後，是的，我的意思是與費城。

I don't like the Golden State Houston thing for either team.

我不喜歡金州休斯敦的事情，對於兩支球隊來說。

I don't think you need James Harden holding the ball.

我覺得你不需要詹姆斯-哈登持球。

The thing about stuff that makes him so actually really a two guard who has great handle so he can play the one he's too short to defend the to, but the ball doesn't stick with him.

東西的事情，讓他所以其實真的是一個二後衛，他的處理能力很強，所以他可以打一個他太矮的防守到，但球不粘他。

So you have a bunch of shooters the balls over who needs hardened messing that up because that I recall Harden on.

所以，你有一群射手的蛋蛋過誰需要硬碰硬，因為這我記得哈登在。

Okay, See, Like they couldn't play him and Westbrook together because it made the whole team less efficient.

好吧，看吧，就像他們不能把他和威斯布魯克放在一起打一樣，因為這樣會降低整個球隊的效率。

But I think of Harden on Philadelphia with Embiid, and I think that is very, very my only concern with Philly with, you know, if I was Houston is I want I probably want to see Ben on the court healthy.

但我想到了哈登在費城與恩比德，我想這是非常，非常我唯一擔心的費城與，你知道，如果我是休斯頓是我想我可能想看到本在球場上健康。

Um, you know, this shortened, uh, you know, when we're getting going, you know, I would thought maybe when we get toe, If we had started in mid mid December, January here, I'm not sure he'll be ready to go when we get going around Christmas time.

嗯，你知道，這個縮短， 呃，你知道，當我們得到去， 你知道，我想，也許當我們得到的腳趾， 如果我們已經開始在12月中旬中旬， 一月在這裡，我不知道他會準備好去 當我們得到去聖誕節前後的時間。

Certainly from a health standpoint, but yeah.

當然，從健康的角度來看，但是是的。

I mean, Phillies got with Simon the Thais titles?

我的意思是，菲利普斯得到了與西蒙泰斯的標題？

If you're looking, you're never as you said, you're never going to get the true value back.

如果你在尋找，你永遠不會像你說的那樣，你永遠不會得到真正的價值回報。

Basically swapping a franchise player for in all MBA player on that.

基本上把一個特許經營權球員換成了在所有MBA球員上。

Doesn't you know that doesn't happen, You know, often here.

你不知道這不是經常發生的事嗎？ 你知道嗎？