I think just a couple more seasons, Zach first, is that correct?

我想只要再過幾季，扎克先來，對嗎？

To more?

為了更多？

I believe after 2022 he could be a free agent.

我相信2022年之後，他可以成為自由球員。

And what is your reaction?

那你的反應是什麼？

Zach to Kendrick, saying that James isn't even picking up the phone for members of the rackets organization.

扎克對肯德里克說，詹姆斯甚至沒有接架組織成員的電話。

Little news there perk.

小新聞有養生。

Nice news breaking.

好消息爆料。

I haven't personally heard that I've heard.

我個人沒有聽說過，我聽說過。

I've heard kind of murmurings of things like that, and and I don't know whether that's on James, whether that's on the organization, whether that's because of the upheaval that's happened.

我聽到了類似的雜音，我不知道這是否是詹姆斯的原因，是否是組織的原因，是否是因為發生了動盪。

I mean, he and Daryl Morey had a good relationship.

我是說，他和達里爾-莫里的關係很好。

He and Mike D'Antoni had a good relationship.

他和Mike D'Antoni的關係很好。

Maybe some of that is playing into it.

也許有一部分是在玩這個。

But maybe Perkins speak to what's going on there because I haven't really heard that today, when you hear the members of the organization, players aren't picking up the phone for some of the key guys, including the owner as a player, what does that mean to you?

但是可能帕金斯說到那裡發生了什麼，因為我今天還真沒聽說過，當你聽到組織的成員，球員不接一些關鍵人物的電話，包括老闆作為球員，這對你意味著什麼？

I think that there's a big disconnect because I think you know a lot of their vision, especially when it was Daryl Morey.

我認為有一個很大的脫節，因為我認為你知道很多他們的願景，特別是當它是達里爾-莫里。

He was the one that said, we're gonna lean into the strength of you guys on.

是他說，我們要靠你們的力量上。

We're gonna trust in this friendship you have between Russ and also James.

我們要相信你在拉斯和詹姆斯之間的友誼。

And so now you have this absence, this vacancy, a vacuum of power, and we're seeing a lot of things.

所以現在你這種缺位，這種空缺，權力的真空，我們看到了很多東西。

A lot of dynamics.

很多動態。

You can look in Brooklyn where they're leading heavy on the opinions of stars.

你可以去布魯克林看看，在那裡，他們對明星的意見領先重。

And I think the Rockets stars sort of want that same ability to be able to say, Hey, we're building together from the jump now that this is a new start.

而我認為火箭隊的球星們也算是希望有這樣的能力，能夠說：嘿，我們從一開始就一起建設，現在這是一個新的開始。

But it seems like the communication hasn't been there from the jump since this transition has started.

但自從這次轉型開始後，似乎從一開始就沒有進行過溝通。

Yeah, And look, perk.

是啊，你看，perk。

We heard.

我們聽說。

And we talked about this with you on the show that these guys did have some voice in the Silas higher.

我們在節目中也和你說過這個問題，這些人確實在Silas上有一些聲音。

But it's much broader than that, of course, and sort of what kind of franchise they wanna be.

但這比這要廣泛得多，當然，還有他們想成為什麼樣的特許經營權。

Do you see them perk as someone who is a championship contender, which is obviously Russ and James is standard.

你把他們看成是一個爭奪總冠軍的人嗎，這顯然是拉斯和詹姆斯的標準。

Well, to be honest with you, Rachel, look, I think silence is a good addition for them I strongly know that James Harden and Russell Westbrook wanted tie loop, but the front office and ownership chose to go another direction.

好吧，跟你說實話，瑞秋，你看，我認為沉默對他們來說是一個很好的補充我強烈知道詹姆斯-哈登和拉塞爾-威斯布魯克想要領帶圈，但前臺和所有權選擇了另一個方向。

That's one thing.

那是一回事

Second of all, I think I strongly believe Well, I noticed that James Harden and Russell Westbrook wanted to us say, And who was gonna be the next GM once there are more decided toe walk away.

其次，我認為我堅信，我注意到詹姆斯-哈登和拉塞爾-威斯布魯克想對我們說，一旦有更多的人決定離開，誰會是下一個總經理。

So there was a conflict and confusion in itself, and I think that's what started to smoke right there and where smoke is fire.

所以本身就存在著衝突和混亂，我想這就是在那裡開始冒煙的原因，哪裡冒煙哪裡就是火。

So right now, James and Russ don't have time to wait.

所以現在，詹姆斯和拉斯沒有時間等待。

You know, these guys were getting up in age, you know, they're they're peeping, you know, towards the end of their prime and they wanna be involved and rightfully so.

你知道，這些傢伙的年齡越來越大， 你知道，他們... ...他們偷看，你知道，對他們的黃金期結束 他們想參與，理所當然。

Look, James Harden took the Rockets and made them relevant again.

你看，詹姆斯-哈登帶著火箭隊，讓他們重新變得有意義。

This is a guy that has led the league in scoring every single year for the last three years has been in the VP conversation has made them a contender.

這是一個在過去三年中每年都引領聯盟得分的傢伙已經在VP對話中讓他們成為競爭者。

He deserves to be in every single conversation that's going on with the organization, and I mean every single high, because the G M and James Harden need to be on same on the same page because James Harden and there are more had that relationship with their arm or will goto James Harden and say, Hey, what do you think about it?

他應該在每一次與組織的對話中，我的意思是每一個高，因為G M和詹姆斯-哈登需要在同一頁上，因為詹姆斯-哈登和有更多的有關係與他們的手臂或將goto詹姆斯-哈登，並說，嘿，你怎麼看呢？

Jeff Green.

傑夫-格林

I like Jeff Green.

我喜歡傑夫-格林

Let's sign them.

讓我們簽下他們。

Low risk, high reward.

低風險，高回報。

That's the relationship that you gotta have with your franchise players and right now is not there for the Rockets.

這就是你和你的加盟球員必須要有的關係，而現在對於火箭隊來說是不存在的。

Well, look, it's because of that relationship between Daryl Morey and James Harden that Russell Westbrook even end up in Houston and we know the contract he's on.

正是因為達里爾-莫雷和詹姆斯-哈登之間的關係，拉塞爾-威斯布魯克才會來到休斯頓，我們知道他的合同。

We just saw the numbers up on the screen.

我們只是看到螢幕上的數字。

Zack.

扎克

If Russ or James do decide, they want out and again, Tim and we'll just story said they have not gotten to that point right now.

如果拉斯或詹姆斯真的決定了，他們想退出，再說，蒂姆和我們就故事說他們現在還沒有到那個地步。

But we'll see.

但我們會看到。

Is Russell Westbrook's contract tradable in your mind?

在你看來，拉塞爾-維斯特布魯克的合同可以交易嗎？

I mean, anything is trainable.

我的意思是，任何東西都是可以訓練的。

The Rockets traded for it, but I haven't found a team that really makes sense.

火箭隊換來了，但我還沒有找到一支真正有意義的球隊。

There's been some rumors about the Clippers at the Knicks in the last couple days.

這幾天有一些關於快船隊在尼克斯隊的傳聞。

Let me address those.

讓我來談談這些問題。

I don't think the Clippers are interested in Russell Westbrook, and I actually would be surprised if the Knicks were too I think the Knicks are projecting more patients, uh, than people thought.

我不認為快船隊對拉塞爾-威斯布魯克有興趣，如果尼克斯隊也有興趣，我其實會很驚訝，我認為尼克斯隊預測的病人，呃，比人們想象的要多。

Of course, that could always change.

當然，這一點可以隨時改變。

It's the Knicks.

是尼克斯隊。

It could change at the drop of a hat.

一下子就能改變。

There's probably some people who are are less patient than there.

可能有些人是比那裡更沒有耐心。

But one thing I would like to say should they made sure they made a great point that the Rockets air spinning and spinning and spinning right?

但有一點我想說的是，他們應該確保他們提出了一個偉大的觀點，火箭隊的空氣旋轉和旋轉和旋轉對嗎？

It was Dwight.

是德懷特。

It was Chris.

是克里斯。

Paul now was rust.

保羅現在是鏽跡斑斑。

At what point do we start to ask you like, Why are they spinning all the time?

在什麼時候我們開始問你，比如，為什麼他們一直在轉？

What's the common denominator there?

那裡的共同點是什麼？

Is there a shelf life that other stars have to playing with James?

其他球星跟詹姆斯打球有保質期嗎？

Or is there a shelf life to the style of play that they have chosen?

或者說，他們選擇的遊戲風格是否有保質期？

Or is it just that that that was Darryl's eh?

還是說，那是若曦的誒？

Mode, like spin, spin, spin?

模式，比如旋轉、旋轉、旋轉？

One thing doesn't work.

有一件事是行不通的。

Let's move to the other thing.

我們來談談另一件事。

But she's right.

但她是對的。

They have spun between identities.

他們已經在身份之間打轉。

Ah, lot, and it feels like they've kind of hit the end of the spinning process.

啊，很多，感覺他們已經有點到了紡紗的盡頭了。

For now.

目前來說