We have Patrick Mahomes fatigue, but it took us two years.

我們有帕特里克-馬霍姆斯的疲勞，但我們花了兩年時間。

It didn't take us a career.

這並沒有讓我們的職業生涯。

It didn't take us a decade.

我們沒有花十年的時間。

It took us two years to get Patrick Mahomes fatigue.

我們花了兩年時間才讓帕特里克-馬霍姆斯疲勞。

It took us two years.

我們花了兩年時間。

So start rooting for the other great stories in football, Man, Let's move for us.

所以，開始支持足球界的其他精彩故事吧，夥計，讓我們為之動容。

We want us to do it and rushes ball it.

我們要我們做到這一點，衝球吧。

But we wanted Rush to do it because we wanted to see something different.

但我們想讓Rush去做 因為我們想看到一些不同的東西 But we wanted Rush to do it because we wanted to see something different.

We felt like he deserved his time.

我們覺得他應該得到他的時間。

Even though Patrick Years Homes only did it for two years last year, Lamar Jackson were like Patrick Mahomes just hurt.

即使帕特里克年霍姆斯去年只做了兩年，拉馬爾-傑克遜都像帕特里克-馬霍姆斯一樣只是受傷。

We have never seen anybody play the quarterback position like this.

我們從未見過有人能把四分衛的位置打成這樣。

We got it.

我們得到了它。

We love Lamar.

我們愛拉瑪

Lamar deserved it.

拉馬爾活該。

But Josh Allen early on this year, or even Tom Brady when he starts creeping in, and now Aaron Rodgers is somebody we focus on again because he had a dip, right?

但是今年年初的約什-阿倫，甚至是湯姆-布雷迪開始匍匐前進的時候，現在阿倫-羅傑斯又是我們重點關注的對象，因為他有一個下滑，對吧？

He had a dip, and now he has a story.

他有一個浸泡，現在他有一個故事。

Y'all drafted his successor.

你們起草了他的繼任者。

Y'all didn't get him weapons on the outside.

你們在外面沒有給他弄到武器。

And so now we look at the things that Aaron Rodgers does through a different prism.

所以現在我們通過不同的稜鏡來看阿倫-羅傑斯所做的事情。

But Patrick Mahomes doesn't have that in the same place with all these great weapons and this great coach, and we take it from panics.

但帕特里克-馬霍姆斯沒有在同一個地方有這些偉大的武器和這個偉大的教練，我們從恐慌中接受它。

Ryan.

萊恩

I co sign everything.

我都是聯合簽名的

You just said.

你剛才說的。

We're on the same page about that, but I want to bring it to you.

我們在這一點上是一致的，但我想把它帶給你。

Stephen A.

Stephen A.

It's not just the weapons.

這不僅僅是武器的問題。

Maybe if Rogers had Andy Reid, right?

也許如果羅傑斯有安迪-裡德，對吧？

Maybe if he had a quarterback whisper like that throughout his career, it would be different.

如果他在整個職業生涯中都有這樣的四分衛耳語，也許就會不一樣了。

But he didn't.

但他沒有。

He didn't like the Tom Brady Peyton Manning debate.

他不喜歡湯姆-布雷迪-佩頓-曼寧的辯論。

It was Tom Brady had better coaching.

是湯姆-布雷迪有更好的教練。

Peyton Manning and Tom Brady was better when it counted most.

佩頓-曼寧和湯姆-布雷迪在最關鍵的時候更好。

But Peyton Manning was put putting up much better numbers in the regular season.

但佩頓-曼寧在常規賽中被放出了更好的數據。

When Brady started putting up those Peyton numbers, it was like, OK, I guess the debates over right Patrick Mahomes is like everyone rolled into one here.

當布雷迪開始拿出那些佩頓的數據時，我想，好吧，我想對帕特里克-馬霍姆斯的爭論就像每個人都捲進了一個這裡。

Yes, Rogers and Mahomes air comparable Stephen A.

是的，羅傑斯和馬霍姆斯的氣質相當斯蒂芬-A。

I agree there in their own category of everyone I've ever seen.

我同意在他們自己的類別中，我見過的每個人。

Mahomes and Rogers, one a one B.

馬霍姆斯和羅傑斯，一個一個B．

I'm not saying Mahomes is so much different than Rodgers that way.

我並不是說馬霍姆斯和羅傑斯有多大的區別，這樣。

I'm saying, if I had to pick, I'll take my homes So far, I think the highest tight seeds hit or even higher than Rogers.

我說，如果要我選，我就選我的家 到目前為止，我認為最高的緊缺種子打得甚至比羅傑斯還高。

But it's but it's close that way.

但它的但它的接近的方式。

But Mahomes is also set up differently.

但馬霍姆斯的設置也不同。

He has a great coach, a quarterback friendly coach.

他有一個偉大的教練，一個四分衛友好的教練。

He has weapons everywhere.

他到處都有武器。

He is willing to take risks in ways that Rogers probably isn't.

他願意以羅傑斯可能不願意的方式承擔風險。

I do agree with that assessment is a little more far from him, but without the mistakes that far have made, he's He's set up in a way where already the whole point is already there is the fatigue that Ryan mentioned.

我確實同意這個評估是離他更遠一些，但如果沒有遠所犯的錯誤，他的他的設置方式已經是整個點已經有了瑞恩提到的疲勞。

That's what I mean.

這就是我的意思。

M v p Super Bowl M V P might do it both already.

M v p超級碗M V P可能已經做到了這兩點。

So we're looking for sympathy awards for other players already.

所以我們已經在為其他玩家尋找慰問獎了。

Well, you could You could feel that way.

嗯，你可以 你可以有這種感覺。

I could tell you that he is what's embarrassing about ESPN on.

我可以告訴你，他是什麼尷尬的ESPN上。

I say ESPN because I'm gonna tell you what exactly it is, and I've been on the record.

我說ESPN，是因為我要告訴你到底是什麼，我一直在記錄。

I pointed this out on many occasions in the past.

我過去曾多次指出這一點。

You remember years ago when, when?

你還記得幾年前，什麼時候，什麼時候？

When when Brett Farve was playing and he tripped over and and scooping underhanded past to a receiver.

當佈雷特-法夫打球的時候，他絆倒了，並且用手舀下過去的接收器。

Or he'll jump into the arms of his offensive linemen.

或者他會跳進他的進攻前鋒的懷裡。

And you have people all over ESPN.

而你的人遍佈ESPN。

Look at him.

看看他

Look at him.

看看他

I mean, he throws the ball underhanded.

我的意思是，他把球扔到了手底下。

Oh, look at him jumping the arms of his offensive lineman.

哦，看他跳著進攻前鋒的手臂。

The little kid is still in him.

小孩還在他身上。

It's never left.

它從未離開過。

I mean, you have folks who were professional analysts fawning over bred, fall like just embarrassingly alright.

我的意思是，你有鄉親們誰是專業的分析師諂媚的飼養，下降喜歡只是尷尬的好嗎。

And why do you bring that up?

你為什麼要提這個？

Because we're talking about Patrick Mahomes right now.

因為我們現在說的是帕特里克-馬霍姆斯。

Patrick Mahomes is a superstar.

帕特里克-馬霍姆斯是個超級明星。

He is a stud now.

他現在是個種馬。

He won a Super Bowl in his second season, his first season.

他在第二個賽季，第一個賽季就贏得了超級碗。

He dropped 50 touchdowns on you second season or 24 24 point drop from 50 to 26 touchdowns.

他在你第二個賽季掉了50次達陣，或者說從50次到26次達陣掉了24個24分。

But that's neither here nor there because he missed a game or two.

但這既不是這裡也不是那裡，因為他錯過了一兩場比賽。

Here's my point, though.

不過，我的觀點是這樣的。

What is it?

什麼事？

And I appreciate your point Ryan about him taking chances that Aaron Rodgers may have never took.

我很欣賞你的觀點，萊恩關於他採取的機會，阿倫羅傑斯可能從來沒有采取。

But I recall the personnel that you worked with having something to do with that.

但我記得與你共事的人員與此有關。

Yeah, he might not have thrown to Richard Sherman side of the ball, but who did he have?

是啊，他可能沒有把球扔給理查德-謝爾曼那邊，但他有誰？

And so what?

那又怎樣？

I'm looking at it.

我正在看。

I'm saying I'm asking a simple question when we see Patrick Mahomes.

我說我在問一個簡單的問題，當我們看到帕特里克-馬霍姆斯。

He tossed the ball sideways to somebody yesterday or he throws an underhanded past.

昨天他把球側著扔給別人，或者他扔個底牌過去。

Whatever.

管他呢

Is there anything that you'll see Patrick Mahomes do in terms of flinging the football that you can definitively say you have never seen?

你會看到帕特里克-馬霍姆斯在甩動橄欖球方面有什麼動作，你能明確地說你從未見過？

Nor could ever seen Aaron Rodgers?

也不能見過阿倫-羅傑斯?

No, I'm saying that yes or no.

不，我是說是或不是。

Nobody's saying that.

沒人這麼說

And that's all I'm saying.

這就是我想說的。

Eh?

誒？

So what I'm saying, Get to Max's point.

所以我的意思是說，進入Max的視線。

Hold on, Ryan, to get to Max's point.

等一下，萊恩，說說麥克斯的觀點。

All I'm trying to say, Don't come to me if come to me and tell me Patrick Mahomes is having a better year come to me to tell me he's utilizing the weapons.

我想說的是，如果你來告訴我帕特里克-馬霍姆斯今年的表現更好，就別來告訴我他在利用武器。

Don't come to me and tell me you're seeing things from him.

別來告訴我你從他身上看到了什麼。

You have never seen no right see from Aaron Rodgers.

你從來沒有見過任何正確的看到從亞倫羅傑斯。

Not in terms of talent, not in terms of arm talent or intelligence.

不在天賦，不在臂力天賦和智慧。

We agree, like they're very comparable that way, but you just glossed over something.

我們同意，就像他們非常可比的方式，但你只是掩蓋了一些東西。

You just glossed over something that's important?

你只是掩蓋了一些重要的東西？

Yes, far.

是的，遠。

I've got a lot of credit.

我有很多功勞。

Look at him drawing up plays in the dirt, playing in the backyard.

看他在土裡畫戲，在後院玩耍。

His teammates love him underhanded, all that kind of stuff, right?

他的隊友們都喜歡他的底牌，都喜歡這種東西吧？

No doubt, by the way, Stephen, you on New York radio with shows next to one another, and we lived through that whole thing and we were saying the same thing We're saying now at the time, like this is getting nauseated, right?

毫無疑問，順便說一下，斯蒂芬，你在紐約電臺的節目挨著一個，我們經歷了整個事情，我們說了同樣的話，我們現在說的時間，就像這是越來越噁心，對不對？

But what if, but But, like this is what Mahomes is?

但如果，但是但是，比如馬霍姆斯就是這樣的人？

Mahomes is everything you said about Rogers, and he has that element of far minus the mistakes.

馬霍姆斯就是你說的羅傑斯的一切，他有那種遠減錯誤的因素。

He's having fun out there doing all these creative things with the arm talent, intelligence and but missed Akef free football of Rogers, plus the fun of far.

他在外面做這些有創意的事情很開心，有羅傑斯的臂膀天賦、智慧和但錯過了阿剋夫免費足球，加上遠的樂趣。

It's different, brother.

這是不同的，兄弟。

It's like it's like Brett Farve and Aaron Rodgers had a baby.

這就像是佈雷特-法夫和亞倫-羅傑斯生了個孩子一樣。

It's Patrick Mahomes.

是Patrick Mahomes

Oh, that's personality.

哦，這就是個性。

That's not game.

這不是遊戲。

I'm talking about game, but his personality is very much more attractive than Aaron Rodgers to the public.

我說的是遊戲，但他的個性比阿倫-羅傑斯對公眾的吸引力非常大。

Well, I didn't have the personality, though, like that person.

好吧，我沒有個性，不過，像那個人。

That personality plays football, though I think that's what you're missing.

這種性格踢球，不過我想這是你所忽略的。

Yes, it is personality, but It's the personality that I will roll left throwback across my body and get it to the middle of the field or the opposite has to Tyree kill, which is something you teach everyone to never do at the quarterback position.

是的，這就是個性，但就是個性，我會把左路拋投橫在身上，然後把它弄到中場，或者對面有泰利殺，這是你教大家在四分衛位置上永遠不要做的事情。

But he believes in it.

但他相信。

He thinks it's fun.

他認為這很有趣。

He believes it will work, and he does it.

他相信會成功，他也會這麼做。

Those are not things that Aaron Rodgers does can't do.

這些不是阿倫-羅傑斯做不到的事情。

I believe he can, absolutely, But Patrick Mahomes does these things and utilizes these tools.

我相信他可以，絕對可以，但帕特里克-馬霍姆斯做這些事情，利用這些工具。

Ineffective ways.

無效的方式。

It's not just because it's cute.

這不僅僅是因為它的可愛。

It's not just because it looked good when he flipped the ball with his left hand against Denver.

這不僅僅是因為他在對陣丹佛時用左手翻轉球時看起來很好。

It wasn't because he thought it would be a cool thing to do.

這並不是因為他認為這將是一件很酷的事情。

It's because if he had it in his left hand, that was the way he could get it out, avoid a sack and get positive yardage.

因為如果他的左手拿著，那他就可以把球傳出去，避免被包夾，獲得正碼。

That's also part of how they played.

這也是他們打法的一部分。

If we put him in a throwing contest, I think it would be extremely cooked.

如果讓他參加投擲比賽，我想一定會非常熟。

I couldn't even tell you what went to the accuracy officious.

我甚至無法告訴你，什麼去了準確度關。

If you all went to the archives, you would not see a thing that Patrick Mahomes has done they're Aaron Rodgers has it done?

如果你們都去看檔案，你們不會看到帕特里克-馬霍姆斯做了一件事，他們是阿倫-羅傑斯做的嗎？

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