Name: 美國大選。抗議 "竊取選舉 "將如何影響美國？- BBC新聞之夜 (US election: How will protests against a 'stolen election' affect America? - BBC Newsnight)
Uploaded: 2020-11-10T18:31:52.000Z
Duration: 7 min 52 s

If the president does not accept defeat, why would his supporters They're trying to suppress us.

如果總統不接受失敗，為什麼他的支持者要打壓我們？

Joe Biden is the president elect, but in Arizona, the votes are still being counted on.

喬-拜登是當選總統，但在亞利桑那州，選票仍在計算中。

The longer it goes on, the more some suspect foul play somewhere.

時間越長，越是有些人疑似犯規的地方。

Ballots are being found on the streets, balance of being submitted for people who have been dead.

選票被發現在街頭，餘額被提交的人已經死亡。

Accusations of widespread and systematic fraud are sweeping across social media.

關於廣泛和系統性欺詐的指控正在席捲整個社交媒體。

No credible evidence has yet being presented to support such claims, but they're coming from the president himself on for many outside the Maricopa County Vote Tabulation Center, that is proof enough in that one county in Michigan, 6000 votes were changed to Biden that were voted for Trump.

目前還沒有提出可信的證據來支持這樣的說法，但這些證據來自總統本人對馬里科帕縣選票統計中心外的許多人來說，這足以證明在密歇根州的那個縣，6000張選票被改成了拜登，而拜登是投給特朗普的。

So I thought that that wasn't true until well, that's because you're fucking full of shit on bombing.

所以我以為那不是真的，直到好了，那是因為你他媽的滿嘴胡言亂語的轟炸。

Turn our country into a shit hole like yours.

把我們的國家變成你們這樣的屎坑。

我們怎麼會看不到裡面的東西呢。

All right, how can we can't observe The whole foundation of American democracy is that people trust the result.

好吧，我們怎麼能不觀察美國民主的整個基礎就是人們相信結果。

Whatever the result is, you trust it fair.

無論結果如何，你都相信它是公平的。

我們不在乎是拜登還是特朗普。

Thea edge of the gathering There's a solitary counter protester.

Thea邊緣的聚會 有一個孤獨的反抗議者。

I wanted to come and show my support for President elect Biden.

我想來表達我對當選總統拜登的支持。

Other Biden supporters e wanted to show my friends who might be like worried about coming out here is in a mood is mostly friendly.

其他拜登的支持者e想告訴我的朋友們，誰可能會像擔心出來這裡的心情是大多友好。

They don't necessarily signify intent, but their presence does come with implications over their attention.

它們不一定代表著意圖，但它們的存在確實比它們的注意力有影響。

Some or counter protesters arrive with a more provocative message.

一些或反抗議者帶著更挑釁的資訊到來。

唐納德-特朗普是個該死的納粹。

Unfortunately, e announced supremacy E Do It for the past four years have exposed deep chasms in American Society.

遺憾的是，e宣佈至尊E做了四年，暴露了美國社會的深層鴻溝。

E Okay, If he's so racist, how come we got more Hispanic?

好吧，如果他是如此的種族主義者， 為什麼我們有更多的西班牙裔？

Report support In this election last year, the culture war has a times looked in danger of spilling over into actual war way.

報導支持 在去年的這場選舉中，文化戰一度看似有蔓延到實戰的危險。

What fucking country do you think you're in right now?

當我們離開時，相機就會消失。

Trump's supporters still believe the count, if done fairly, will keep their man in the White House.

特朗普的支持者仍然相信，如果公平地進行計數，將使他們的人留在白宮。

Yeah, once upon a time in America, elections were relatively straightforward.

是啊，從前在美國，選舉是比較簡單的。

The TV networks would call the race on a few notable exceptions aside, that would be that no longer.

電視網會在幾個明顯的例外情況下叫上比賽，那就不再是那樣了。

I'm actually under warning right now on Facebook, the Internet has shifted the balance of power.

其實我現在在Facebook上受到了警告，互聯網已經改變了權力的平衡。

The narrative of a stolen election is spread online by people like Karen would theories ona state organizer of something called Stop the Steal.

竊取選舉的敘事是由像凱倫這樣的人在網上傳播的，他們會理論一個叫停止偷竊的國家組織者。

In the two days after the election, the group amassed more than 300,000 followers before being taken down by Facebook because of threats of violence posted by some members.

在選舉結束後的兩天內，該組織積累了30多萬名追隨者，後因一些成員發佈暴力威脅而被Facebook下架。

They're saying anything is incitement to violence.

One of the claims Karen makes with no evidence is that an error at a machine count in Michigan, which was quickly rectified, was widely replicated.

凱倫在沒有證據的情況下提出的一個說法是，密歇根州的一次機器清點時出現了錯誤，但很快就得到了糾正，並被廣泛複製。

They actually had some of these machines changing votes from Trump to Biden.

他們居然有一些這樣的機器把選票從特朗普改成了拜登。

Where you where does this information come from?

I'm getting it from a lot of the people in the White House that they have posted that this this is What's happening?

我從白宮的很多人那裡得到的消息是，他們已經發布了這... ...這是怎麼回事？

When you see something posted from the White House from Donald Trump on downwards.

當你看到唐納德-特朗普從白宮往下發的東西。

Do you worry about the tone off public discourse now?

你擔心現在公共話語權的調性嗎？

In my opinion, we're very close to a civil war in America.

在我看來，我們已經非常接近美國的內戰了。

我說真的是的，我們是愛國者。

We will fight to the death to not have socialism.

我們會為了不要社會主義而拼死一搏。

Does it ever occur to you that perhaps your, um, patriotism and your sense of what is right and wrong is being used in a way by somebody who maybe knows that they've lost in election is using you Buy telling falsehoods?

你有沒有想過，也許你的，嗯，愛國主義和你的是非感正在被某人利用，也許他知道他們在選舉中失敗了，正在利用你說假話？

But when Donald Trump says I won this election by a lot, he's lying to you, right?

但當唐納德-特朗普說我以很多優勢贏得這次選舉時，他是在騙你，對嗎？

I think he knows a lot more than we know.

我想他知道的比我們知道的多得多。

So far, few senior figures in the Republican Party have spoken out publicly against the unfounded allegations emanating from the White House.

到目前為止，共和黨內鮮有高層人士公開發言，反對來自白宮的毫無根據的指控。

One exception is the former senator for Arizona, a snowflake, my hometown it went 99% for Trump.

一個例外是亞利桑那州的前參議員，一個雪花，我的家鄉它99%支持特朗普。

His opposition to Donald Trump cost him his seat two years ago.

兩年前，他對唐納德-特朗普的反對讓他失去了座位。

Most of the Republican Party has accepted it.

共和黨的大多數人都接受了它。

A lot of them are still playing to that audience of one not knowing where the Trump base will go if the Republican establishment knows that this is bogus, but they're not saying so is not dangerous.

他們中的很多人還在向那個不知道特朗普基礎會去哪裡的觀眾打招呼，如果共和黨建制派知道這是假的，但他們不這樣說是不危險的。

Yeah, it iss, I think it's it's it's terrible for the system.

是的，它是s，我認為這是... ...這是可怕的系統。

It's It's not a good thing for democracy, but, um, it will run its course and it will same or about the president than it will about our demise.

這對民主來說不是一件好事，但是，嗯，它會運行它的過程中，它將相同的或關於總統 比它會關於我們的死亡。

I just wonder whether the genie could be put back in the bottle once this tactic has been used in a presidential contest.

只是不知道一旦在總統競選中使用了這一手段，是否可以把精靈放回瓶子裡。

He still commands a lot of support and dedication on behalf of the base.

他仍然代表基地指揮著很多人的支持和奉獻。

You could see that by how many are still sticking with him.

你看有多少人還在堅持他就知道了。

我的意思是，林賽-格雷厄姆，他更清楚。

Uh, you know, Ted Cruz, those guys, they know better, but well, they look at the base that he controls and they don't want to run afoul of that base our way outside the accounting office in Phoenix.

呃，你知道，泰德・克魯茲，那些傢伙，他們知道得更清楚，但是，他們看著他控制的基地，他們不想在鳳凰城的會計辦公室外面觸犯那個基地。

We're going to stay out here until we get an answer from them on.

在得到他們的答覆之前，我們要留在這裡。

Then we're gonna go to the capital because other brothers and sisters in America need our support.

然後我們要去首都，因為美國的其他兄弟姐妹需要我們的支持。

Realistically, though, Joe Biden is gonna be the next president, Don't you think way, Just want a fair and honest elections, whether it is Joe Biden, that's great, Aziz.

現實點說，喬-拜登會成為下一任總統，你不這麼想嗎？ 我只是希望有一個公平公正的選舉，不管是喬-拜登，那都很好，阿齊茲。

Long as it's a fair and honest election, the counting is not yet done, but the chances of the result changing is vanishingly small.

只要是公平公正的選舉，計票工作還沒有完成，但結果改變的機率是微乎其微的。

 Donald Trump's time in the White House is coming to an end, but the strength of America's faith in its democracy may depend on the manner of his leaving. 

唐納德-特朗普在白宮的時間即將結束，但美國對其民主的信心的強度可能取決於他離開的方式。