Jamis Winston, like they only were under 500 last year and just barely because their quarterback had a head of historical season in terms of turnovers and points to the other team.

賈米斯-溫斯頓，就像他們去年只在500名以下，只是勉強因為他們的四分衛在失誤和得分方面有一個歷史賽季的頭，給其他球隊。

Like you.

像你一樣

Just replace him with an average guy who turns the ball over 15 times instead of 30 times right or throws 15 interceptions instead of 30.

只要把他換成一個普通的傢伙，把球翻過來15次，而不是30次對吧，或者投出15次攔截，而不是30次。

They're nine wins.

他們是九勝。

We'll talk about wins and losses right now.

我們現在就來談談勝負。

There are a bunch of quarterbacks not denying anything you're saying you plug into Brady's position.

有一群四分衛不否認你說的任何話，你插到布雷迪的位置上。

They're probably six and two right now.

他們現在可能是六歲和兩歲。

By the way, Nick Foles, who's having a bad year and doesn't look good behind a porous offensive line and without weapons, beat Brady.

順便說一下，尼克-福爾斯，他今年的表現很糟糕，在漏洞百出的進攻線和沒有武器的情況下，他看起來並不好，擊敗了布雷迪。

They went head to head, and Nick Foles made a play at the end of the game and Brady didn't.

他們正面交鋒，尼克-福爾斯在比賽結束時做了一個動作，而布雷迪沒有。

I think if you put a guy like that on this Bucks team, I think they're probably around six and two, maybe five and three.

我想如果你把這樣的人放在這支籃網隊裡，我想他們可能在六歲和二歲左右，也許是五歲和三歲。

But there are other guys where they might be 71 right now.

但也有其他的人，他們現在可能是71歲。

Well, first of all, first of all, first little wrong.

好吧，首先，首先，第一個小錯誤。

Secondly, you're assuming that everybody could do what Brady has done.

其次，你假設每個人都能做到布雷迪所做的事。

There's there just because of the talent around him, that which makes you wrong.

有的只是因為他身邊的人才，那讓你錯了。

And thirdly, you keep bringing up.

第三，你一直在提。

Last year, seven and nine record the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in the last six games, they lost the last two games of the regular season.

去年，七九戰績的坦帕灣海盜隊在最近六場比賽中，他們輸掉了常規賽的最後兩場比賽。

The four games prior to that they won.

之前的四場比賽他們都贏了。

This is what Jamis Winston is their quarterback last year.

這就是賈米斯-溫斯頓是他們去年的四分衛。

Let me tell you who they be.

讓我告訴你他們是誰。

They beat the Atlanta Falcons, who obviously struggled last year.

他們擊敗了亞特蘭大獵鷹隊，後者顯然在去年掙扎。

They beat the Jacksonville Jaguars.

他們擊敗了傑克遜維爾美洲虎隊。

Don't get us started their They beat the Indianapolis Colts, who really didn't have a quarterback at that time.

不要讓我們開始他們的 他們擊敗了印第安納波利斯小馬隊，誰真的沒有一個四分衛在那個時候。

And they beat the Detroit Lions.

而且他們擊敗了底特律雄獅隊。

And so let's pay attention to who they're going up against.

所以我們要注意他們的對手是誰。

Okay, And and And that does matter in the National Football League, as it does in any level of competition.

好吧，還有還有還有，這在國家橄欖球聯盟是很重要的，因為它在任何級別的比賽中都是如此。

I'm trying to sit up there and say that everything is about Jamis Winston, but you got You can't act like Oh, Jamis Winston is gone, but guess what?

我想坐在那裡說一切都與Jamis Winston有關 但你不能表現得像Jamis Winston已經走了 但你猜怎麼著?

There are a whole bunch of other people that could have walked into Tampa Bay and do what Tom Brady is doing because they might be David to throw the football.

有一大堆其他人可以走進坦帕灣，做湯姆-布雷迪正在做的事情，因為他們可能是大衛扔足球。

Would they have been the right leader?

他們會是正確的領導者嗎？

Well, they have galvanized the troops that way, but then they've been able to do the things that I'm not denying any of those things.

好吧，他們用這種方式激起了部隊的熱情，但他們又能做到我不否認任何這些事情。

Guys, I'm not denying those things, but I'm saying as it shows up in the wins and losses, The fact is they just beat the Giants, who are not a good team by the skin of their teeth.

夥計們，我不否認這些事情，但我想說的是，從勝負上看，他們只是擊敗了巨人隊，而巨人隊並不是一支優秀的球隊，他們只是靠著自己的牙齒。

And when I say Nick Foles and you guys go, no.

當我說尼克-福爾斯，你們就會說，不。

Between Folds and Robiskie, they have a Chicago team that doesn't have any of the offensive weapons or offensive protection that the Bucks have, and they're one game difference, and they beat the Bucks head to head.

在福特斯和羅比斯基之間，他們的芝加哥隊沒有任何的進攻武器和進攻保護，他們只有一個場次的差距，他們卻正面擊敗了籃網。

So, yes, I believe if you took a bunch of quarterbacks and put them in Tom Brady's position, their record would be around six into.

所以，是的，我相信如果你把一群四分衛放在湯姆-布雷迪的位置上，他們的戰績會在六進左右。

It might be five and three.

可能是5和3。

Some guys might be seven and one, but But we measure success and wins and losses.

有些人可能是七零八落，但我們衡量的是成功和勝負。

No.

不知道

Yes, so So here's my question to you.

是的，所以... ...所以我的問題是：

So when you start comparing Jameis Winston last year, then Heathrow for 5000 yards as well and 30 s Oh so It's not like it's the issue with Dennis Winston wasn't that he couldn't.

所以當你開始比較去年的賈米斯-溫斯頓，然後希思羅5000碼以及30秒哦，所以這並不是說丹尼斯-溫斯頓的問題不是他不能。

He couldn't put points up.

他無法把分數提高。

The issue was he gave it to the other team and gave them points.

問題是他給了對方，給了對方分數。

So when you like, if you if you want to compare Nick Foles and Jameis Winston like, what would James wants to be doing in Chicago?

所以，當你喜歡，如果你如果你想比較尼克-福爾斯和賈米斯-溫斯頓一樣，詹姆斯想在芝加哥做什麼？

And where Nick Foles is right?

而尼克-福爾斯在哪裡對嗎？

I mean, hey, could have 30 touchdowns.

我的意思是，嘿，可以有30個觸地得分。

He may have 30 interceptions again, Who knows?

他可能又會有30次攔截，誰知道呢？

Right, Like this guy can slinging around got incredible.

是的，就像這傢伙可以到處亂跑，讓人難以置信。

I mean, his upside is incredible.

我的意思是，他的上升空間是不可思議的。

He struggled on who to give it to and when to give it to him.

他糾結於該給誰，什麼時候給他。

But when you're talking about, you could just replace and put a guy in.

但說到這裡，你可以直接換人，放一個人進去。

He's gonna win six or seven games.

他將贏得六七場比賽。

Nick Foles doesn't win six games in Tampa e.

尼克-福爾斯在坦帕不贏六場比賽e。

I mean that right there.

我的意思是，就在那裡。

They're averaging 17 points since Folds came in.

自從福茲上場後，他們場均得到17分。

Travis Key.

特拉維斯-基。

Whether you love him or hate him, if he was three and oh after the first three games, they're two and three cents against better opponents.

無論你是愛他還是恨他，如果他在前三場比賽後是三分哦，他們對更好的對手是兩分和三分。

I give him that, but let's not act like let's not crown Nick Falls as this guy who was also gonna come in and e Giant I am using using fools.

我給他，但我們不要像讓我們不要冠以尼克-福爾斯這個傢伙，他也是要進來的，e巨人我是用用傻瓜。

I'm using falls as a as a kind of middle low, middle pack quarterback who's having a bad year.

我用Falls作為一種作為中間低，中間包四分衛誰的一年不好。

That's why I chose falls.

這就是我選擇瀑布的原因。

In other words, I'm trying to take a guy who can manage a game and who could be big on third down when you need him to be provided.

換句話說，我想帶一個能管理比賽的人，當你需要他提供的時候，他可以在第三次進攻中大顯身手。

He has the necessary weapons.

他有必要的武器。

Offensive line protection they could block for the run, a run game, receivers a defense because that's what Brady has so forget about.

攻防線保護他們可以阻擋跑動，跑位，接球者一個防守，因為這是布雷迪有的，所以忘了。

Rogers will say Mahomes.

羅傑斯會說馬霍姆斯。

Guys like that who might be undefeated on the Bucks, like, who knows?

這樣的傢伙誰可能是不敗的籃網，喜歡，誰知道？

I'm talking about like it happened to be a team that needed a guy not to turn the ball over, and they were gonna be over 500.

我說的是，就像它碰巧是一個團隊，需要一個人不把球，他們會超過500。

No, but listen, that's that.

不，但聽著，就是這樣。

If you had a normal off season and pre season and summer, I would say you may have an argument.

如果你有一個正常的淡季和季前和夏季，我想說你可能有一個說法。

They had nothing, bro.

他們什麼都沒有，兄弟。

They're meeting and throwing in Tampa without anything because they have no ability to install on offense.

他們在坦帕什麼都沒有就見面投，因為他們沒有安裝進攻的能力。

You bring anybody else in there without any of these things and just throw him to the wolves.

你把其他人帶進去，沒有這些東西，就把他扔到狼群裡去。

This thing is not gonna be a good as Tom Brady has made it look and again like I'm not telling you.

這東西不會像湯姆-布雷迪說的那樣好，又像我不告訴你。

He deserves all the credit.

他應該得到所有的榮譽。

Exactly.

就是這樣

Stephen a saying this defense, they've kept him in games.

斯蒂芬說，這個防守，他們已經讓他在比賽中。

It's not about what he's done to this point.

這與他到現在的所作所為無關。

It's about the expectations of where they're going and where he can take them where other guys cannot.

這關係到他們的期望值，關係到他們的發展方向，關係到他能把他們帶到別人不能帶到的地方。

So when you talk about when you when you bring a guy in and just say, Hey, you got no preseason no o t A s no nothing Just go get with this group of guys make him gel, make him work We're gonna bring in a new running back We're gonna bring a new receiver We're gonna make all this happen.

所以當你說到，當你帶一個人進來，只是說， 嘿，你有沒有季前賽，沒有什麼，只是去與這群傢伙，讓他的凝膠，讓他的工作，我們會帶來一個新的跑衛，我們會帶來一個新的接收器，我們會實現這一切。

Hey, go, go Put it all all these ingredients together and make you know make make a world famous cake, bro It ain't that easy Like like he has made it look easy, but don't believe that, right?

嘿，去，去 把所有這些材料放在一起，讓你知道 做一個世界著名的蛋糕，兄弟 這不是那麼容易 就像他把它看起來很容易， 但不相信，對不對？

Like, understand how much hard work this has required.

就像，明白這需要付出多大的努力。

And this is because of Brady's leadership that everybody gets unified and on board to convince me you may have convinced me.

而這正是因為有了布雷迪的上司，大家才會團結一致，齊心協力，讓我相信你可能已經說服了我。

In other words, he was the man for this particular job in this season, right?

換句話說，他是本賽季這個特殊工作的人選吧？

It's tough to argue again.

再爭論起來就很難了。

That's right.

是的

I mean, listen, you see the light, Stephen A in the light of the other e How good.

我的意思是，聽著，你看到的光，斯蒂芬-A在其他e的光多好。

How did Jeff I really appreciate Max saying that Max has been told that by numerous guest When you were off for you on another show, Jeff Max was told that but he But he suddenly he's listening to you.

傑夫我真的很欣賞麥克斯說，麥克斯已經被無數的嘉賓告訴，當你在另一個節目中，傑夫麥克斯被告知，但他但他突然他聽你的。

He's seen the light.

他已經看到了光明。

He's seen a lot.

他見多識廣。

He is not here.

他不在這裡。

He is.

他是。

Now be quiet.

現在安靜下來

You gotta delay anyway.

反正你得拖延時間。

You gotta delay anyway.

反正你得拖延時間。

We're coming into the conversation late.

我們進入談話的時間太晚了。

All of the stuff.

所有的東西。

He heard you.

他聽到了

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