This is the pace that he is on.

這就是他的步伐。

He's on pace to throw 48 touchdowns and four picks.

他有望投出48次達陣和4次選秀。

Last year, he threw 26 touchdown passes.

去年，他投出了26次達陣傳球。

He's just too away from that at the midway point right now.

他現在離這個中點實在是太遠了。

So let's bring the crew in here for the conversation.

所以，讓我們把隊員們請到這裡來談話。

And Ryan Clark.

還有Ryan Clark

I'm starting with you as you watch Aaron Rodgers play right now, and you're a guy who has gone up against him at his very best in the Super Bowl.

我從你開始，因為你看亞倫-羅傑斯打現在， 而你是一個人誰去了對他在他最好的超級碗。

In fact, what are we seeing?

事實上，我們看到的是什麼？

What is the most important thing to say about the Packers coming off last night?

要說昨晚包裝工下場最重要的是什麼？

You know what?

你知道嗎？

We're seeing a happy Aaron Rodgers.

我們看到了一個快樂的亞倫-羅傑斯。

And obviously, it's not just about this game.

很顯然，這不僅僅是這個遊戲的問題。

They went up against a team that had two arms behind their back, and they kept punching him in the jaw because the team couldn't block it.

他們對上的是一支背後有兩隻手的隊伍，他們一直在打他的下巴，因為隊伍擋不住。

And that's what we saw when you saw the San Francisco 40 Niners being beat up playing against a Green Bay backwards Packer team that is clicking offensively.

而這就是我們看到的，當你看到舊金山40號九人隊被打得落花流水的時候，對陣綠灣落後的包裝工隊，他們的進攻正在點擊。

They get Erin Jones back, but when you see Aaron Rodgers having fun when you see Aaron Rodgers sitting back in the pocket, throwing off his back foot to Valdez scanning, and he's wide open.

他們讓艾琳-瓊斯回來了，但是當你看到阿倫-羅傑斯有樂趣的時候，當你看到阿倫-羅傑斯坐在口袋裡，扔掉他的後腳給瓦爾德斯掃描，他是開放的。

That's the type of Aaron Rodgers we're used to seeing the guy that's fearless, pushing the ball down the field and unbelievably accurate everywhere else.

這就是我們習慣看到的阿倫-羅傑斯，這個傢伙無所畏懼，把球推到場上，其他地方都無比精準。

And we saw those two things against the Houston Texans and now this week against the San Francisco 40 Niners.

而我們在對陣休斯敦德州人隊和本週對陣舊金山40號九人隊的比賽中看到了這兩點。

But he's going to do that if you can't put pressure on it right now, Aaron Rodgers is playing the best ball.

但他要做的是，如果你現在不能給它施加壓力，阿倫-羅傑斯正在打最好的球。

We've seen him play since 2000 and 16, and he's definitely in the M V P conversation.

我們看到他從2000年和16年開始打球，他絕對在M V P的對話中。

But more than anything, he's able to carry a team again.

但更多的是，他又能扛起一支球隊。

So if you protect Aaron Rodgers and you play a little bit of defense, if he gets hot, that's how you win a Super Bowl.

所以，如果你保護阿倫-羅傑斯，並打出一點點的防守，如果他變熱，這就是你如何贏得超級碗。

But the rest of the Green Bay Packers have to do their part because Aaron Rodgers is on fire right now.

但綠灣包裝工隊的其他隊員必須盡到自己的責任，因為阿倫-羅傑斯現在正處於火熱狀態。

Yeah, that's the point, I guess.

是啊，這就是重點，我想。

Rob Ninkovich.

Rob Ninkovich

You know what a championship team looks like you've played on him.

你知道一支冠軍球隊是什麼樣子的，你在他身上打過球。

Does this look like a championship team to you?

你覺得這是一支冠軍球隊嗎？

Yeah, well, look, defense wins championships.

是啊，看，防守贏得了冠軍。

So when I look at the Packers, their ability to create turnovers, get to the quarterback.

所以當我看到包裝工隊，他們製造失誤的能力，找到四分衛。

I think that's the most important thing.

我認為這是最重要的事情。

Um, you know, with Smith, you gotta you gotta guy on the edge or you have to account for his pass rush ability.

嗯，你知道，史密斯，你得... ...你得在邊緣的傢伙，或者你必須考慮到他的傳球能力。

We saw in that game a sack, fumble, forced fumble turnover.

我們在那場比賽中看到了一次包夾、失誤、被迫失誤的失誤。

Then Green Bay is able to capitalize because you have Aaron Rodgers and just like just like when somebody jumps off size and just like there's a penalty in that game, when Aaron Rodgers has the ability toe just to take a shot to try and get up on you, he's going to do that.

然後綠灣能夠利用，因為你有阿倫-羅傑斯，就像就像當有人跳出體型，就像在那場比賽中有一個罰球，當阿倫-羅傑斯有能力趾只是採取一個鏡頭，試圖在你身上，他將做到這一點。

And when you can create turnovers and you have a defense that can create turnovers with the pass rush getting after quarterbacks because the last time I checked this is a quarterback driven league, and if you can get to the quarterback, you can win.

當你能製造失誤，你的防守能製造失誤，傳球衝刺能追上四分衛，因為上次我檢查過，這是一個四分衛驅動的聯盟，如果你能追上四分衛，你就能贏。

And if you got Aaron Rodgers on your team, that helps as well.

如果你的隊伍裡有阿倫-羅傑斯，那也是有幫助的。

So yeah, I definitely think that they have the best opportunity to win the division.

所以是的，我絕對認為他們有最好的機會贏得分區。

David Pollock, What'd you see last night?

大衛-波洛克，你昨晚看到什麼了？

Well, everybody looks good against the San Francisco 40 Niners I mean, there was 39 years.

好吧，每個人都看起來很好 對舊金山40九人 我的意思是，有39年。

I have people.

我的人。

Who is this guy?

這傢伙是誰？

Yeah, exactly.

是的，沒錯。

The defense of packages, they're like, All right, you go in there 36 54.

包裹的防禦，他們就像，好吧，你去那裡36 54。

I mean, there are ravaged unit, So no.

我的意思是，有被蹂躪的組織、部門，所以沒有。

Did you watch?

你看了嗎？

I'm not forgetting Green Bay last week against the Vikings.

我不會忘記上週綠灣對維京人的比賽。

Okay, Y'all could talk to me about this defense.

好吧，你們都可以跟我談談這個防守。

I saw it last week, too.

我上週也看到了。

So their defense still has to prove it to me throughout the year.

所以他們的防守還是要在這一年中向我證明。

And that pass rush you talked about it hasn't been great.

而且你說的那個傳球搶斷它也不是很好。

It hasn't been like it was a year ago.

它已經不像一年前那樣了。

The turnovers hasn't been there.

失誤一直沒有出現。

But I'll tell you what.

但我要告訴你的是

To me, Erin Jones being back makes this offense unstoppable because huge Davante Adams is this dude and and they get so much through him that they're so creative with the way they get him the football.

對我來說，艾琳-瓊斯回來讓這個進攻勢不可擋，因為巨大的達文特-亞當斯就是這個傢伙，而且他們通過他得到了很多東西，他們是如此有創意的方式，他們得到他的足球。

But Erin Jones being able to slip him out and get him the ball on screens and his speed and ability to make people miss and his toughness to run the football with Aaron Rodgers with Adams, I think that makes it up a triplet that makes this offense unstoppable.

但是艾林-瓊斯能夠把他溜出去，讓他在螢幕上拿到球，他的速度和讓人失誤的能力，以及他和阿倫-羅傑斯與亞當斯一起跑動的韌性，我認為這構成了一個三巨頭，讓這個進攻變得不可阻擋。

That can go tick, protect.

這可以去嘀，保護。

But please, Ninkovich, don't sell me on this defense because they just be you and Ryan Clark because the 40 Niners didn't have nobody out, it is important to remind anyone hasn't been paying attention this week.

但請寧科維奇，不要向我推銷這個防守，因為他們只是你和萊恩克拉克，因為40個九人隊沒有人出局，重要的是要提醒任何人本週沒有注意。

The 40 Niners are as decimated between the combination of injury and co vid as decimated as any team you could ever possibly imagine.

40歲的九頭蛇隊在傷病和co vid的組合之間，就像你能想象到的任何一支球隊一樣被摧殘。

So that was a facsimile of their team that we saw last night, Meanwhile, are saying you had an interesting tweet last night and this is not the usual kind, the kind that I read and everyone laughs.

所以這是我們昨晚看到的他們團隊的一個摹本，同時，都說你昨晚的微博很有意思，這不是一般的那種，我看了大家都笑了。

This one you wrote season is basically halfway through, and I know less about the NFC than I did at the beginning of the season.

你寫的這個賽季基本已經過半，我對NFC的瞭解比賽季初還要少。

Can any of you all predict the NFC champion?

你們誰能預測一下NFC的冠軍？

So someone said to you, Ryan Clark, the Packers could be that team.

所以有人跟你說 Ryan Clark 包裝工隊可能就是那支球隊了

What would you say?

你會怎麼說？

I'm on the same side as David Pollock.

我和大衛-波洛克站在同一邊

I don't think their defense is good enough when you watch the defense get ran through and physically dominated the way that this team did against the Minnesota Vikings.

我不認為他們的防守足夠好，當你看到防守被碾壓，身體被支配，就像這支球隊對陣明尼蘇達維京人一樣。

And then you think back to last year giving up three Hunt on the ground to the San Francisco 40 Niners in the NFC Championship.

再回想去年在NFC冠軍賽中給舊金山40九人隊送去了三個亨特在地上。

I don't believe you can win a Super Bowl that way, so there will be another one of these teams that's fun to watch.

我不相信你能用這種方式贏得超級碗，所以這些球隊中又會有一支很有趣的球隊。

That's extremely good.

這是非常好的。

And so they really needed in the divisional playoff of the NFC championship, and they'll be kicked out because they cannot stop people.

所以他們真的需要在NFC冠軍的分區決賽中，他們會被踢出局，因為他們無法阻止人們。

David, we without You sounded very skeptical on your initial comments, but they do have Aaron Rodgers when they get Alan Hazard back.

大衛，我們沒有你聽起來非常懷疑你最初的評論，但他們確實有阿倫-羅傑斯，當他們得到阿蘭-哈扎德回來。

They have some weapons, obviously, Adams a special Erin Jones.

他們有一些武器，顯然，亞當斯一個特殊的艾琳瓊斯。

Do they look like they could be the team that emerges from the NFC to you?

在你看來，他們可能會成為從NFC中脫穎而出的球隊嗎？

And by the way, Lazard is a big deal.

對了，拉扎德是個大人物。

He was bawling, I mean, before he got hurt.

他在受傷之前就在嚎啕大哭，我是說，在他受傷之前。

And again, it gives him another toy.

又給了他一個玩具。

Another weapon.

另一種武器。

But no, I'm not.

但不，我不是。

I'm not going with with them over the Tampa Bay Bucks.

我不會和他們一起去坦帕灣籃網隊。

I watch the Tampa Bay Bucks on defense.

我看坦帕灣雄鹿隊的防守。

They swarm, They hunt.

它們蜂擁而至，它們狩獵。

They'll make life hard for Aaron Rodgers.

他們會讓亞倫-羅傑斯的日子不好過。

Um, the least the least Break serve a couple of times, and then when I look at that Packer's defense, I just don't know that they're good enough to consistently be able to do.

嗯，最起碼的Break發球幾次，然後當我看到那個包裝工的防守時，我就不知道他們是否足夠優秀，能夠持續的做到。

And by the way, we just get, you know, Erin Antonio Brown, come here.

順便說一下，我們剛剛得到，你知道，艾琳-安東尼奧-布朗，來到這裡。

You ready?

準備好了嗎？

Go ahead, Let's get in here, too.

去吧，我們也進去吧。

So it's just gonna get filthier on offense for the Bucks.

所以，這只是會得到更骯髒的進攻籃網。

You see, the odds on your screen for the Buccaneers are the favorites to come out of there, and that is right.

你看，你螢幕上的賠率，布坎普隊是出線的熱門，這沒錯。

I mentioned Rogers has thrown two picks this year.

我提到羅傑斯今年已經投了兩個選秀權。

Both of them were practically consecutive in that game against Tampa Bay.

在對陣坦帕灣的那場比賽中，他們兩人幾乎是連續。

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Subscribe to ESPN plus thank you for watching ESPN on YouTube for live streaming sports and premium content.

訂閱ESPN加感謝您在YouTube上觀看ESPN的體育直播和優質內容。

Subscribe to ESPN, plus.

訂閱ESPN，加。