You guys might know him as a 10 year veteran quarterback in the NFL.

你們可能知道他是一個在NFL工作了10年的老牌四分衛。

Or maybe the baby alien on the Mask Singer.

也可能是《面具歌手》上的外星人寶寶。

We welcome Mark Sanchez.

我們歡迎馬克-桑切斯。

What's up, Mark?

怎麼了，馬克？

How we doing?

你好嗎？

Thanks for having me, man.

謝謝你邀請我，夥計。

Know what I think?

知道我在想什麼嗎？

You don't get enough credit for Mark.

你對馬克的評價還不夠高。

I'm gonna give you some credit right now.

我現在就給你點贊。

Oh, boy.

哦，天啊

The jets air so bad, people forget the last time they were good.

噴氣機的空氣太差了，人們都忘了上一次他們是好的。

You know who the quarterback, Mr Moore?

你知道誰是四分衛嗎，摩爾先生？

I mean, I remember, but do you think you think you don't get enough credit for the last Jets quarterback that actually took the team somewhere?

我的意思是，我記得，但你認為你認為你沒有得到足夠的信任上一個噴氣機隊的四分衛，實際上把球隊的地方？

I mean, I don't worry about it.

我的意思是，我不擔心這個問題。

I felt it as a player on Ben.

我作為一個玩家感覺到了，在本。

You know, you just get shipped out somewhere else.

你知道，你只是被運到別的地方去了。

But nobody realizes that.

但沒有人意識到這一點。

It's gonna take that long to get back toe, you know, even close to where we were.

它要花那麼長時間才能回到原點，你知道的，甚至接近我們的位置。

And a lot of that was, you know, management and the type of talent they acquired.

這其中有很多是，你知道，管理和他們獲得的人才類型。

Um, players like Darrelle Revis, Bart Scott.

嗯，像Darrelle Revis，Bart Scott這樣的球員。

You know Dave Harris And then the guys we brought in as free agents That really worked out well for us.

你知道戴夫・哈里斯，然後我們作為自由球員引進的人，對我們來說真的很好。

Braylon Edwards.

佈雷隆-愛德華茲。

Santonio Holmes, Jason Taylor, LaDainian Tomlinson.

Santonio Holmes, Jason Taylor, LaDainian Tomlinson.

I mean, those were guys that really contributed and helped.

我的意思是，這些人都是真正的貢獻和幫助。

Our team gave us a veteran leadership way needed at that time.

我們的團隊給了我們一個當時需要的老上司方式。

And so it was.

於是就這樣了。

It was a great run, but yeah, I don't I mean, listen, I love those days, but I'm not losing any sleep over it.

這是一個偉大的運行，但 是的，我不... ...我的意思是，聽著，我喜歡那些日子， 但我不會失去任何睡眠它。

Things were going well.

事情進展順利。

I got a three, almost four year old kid now, so I got a lot of other stuff going on.

我現在有一個三歲，差不多四歲的孩子，所以我有很多其他的事情要做。

I'm not worried about commiserating for football.

我不擔心為足球委屈。

Me, too, man.

我也是，夥計。

Three year olds or freaking handful, I'll tell you that.

三歲的孩子還是怪手，我會告訴你。

Let's talk about some quarterbacks around the NFL.

讓我們來談談NFL周圍的一些四分衛。

Let's stick to the Jets.

讓我們堅持到噴氣機隊。

One second.

等一下

Sam Donald, fellow USC guy dealt a bad hand?

薩姆-唐納德，南加州大學的同胞，手氣不好？

Or is there a way for him to recover being on this team, the way this absolutely built dealt a bad hand.

還是有辦法讓他恢復在這支隊伍裡，這絕對建的方式打了一手爛牌。

But listen, they gotta get him some talent.

但聽著，他們得給他找些人才。

They gotta follow the Buffalo Bills model of drafting a young quarterback, letting him play early like they did.

他們得效仿布法羅比爾的模式，招募一個年輕的四分衛，讓他像他們一樣早早地打上比賽。

And then you gotta acquire talent around that quarterback to make him successful.

然後你得在那個四分衛身邊收購人才，讓他成功。

Look what they've done in free agency with the fund digs, most recently, then also Cole Beasley, John Brown.

看看他們在自由市場上用基金挖人做了什麼，最近，那麼也是科爾-比斯利、約翰-布朗。

So they're giving him offensive weapons and firepower to play with.

所以他們給他進攻武器和火力，讓他發揮。

If you don't do that, then I don't know what you know.

如果你不這樣做，那我不知道你知道什麼。

You can expect out of somebody like Sam Donald and even still, he's shown flashes of making big time plays and shown that he has the ability to lead a franchise.

你可以期待出像薩姆-唐納德這樣的人，甚至還是，他已經表現出了大放異彩的閃光點，並表明他有能力上司一個特許經營權。

Now, Uh, once the GM who drafted you departs from that team, I've been in that situation, and really there are no rules.

現在，呃，一旦選拔你的總經理從那支球隊離開，我就遇到過這種情況，真的沒有什麼規則。

Anything can happen.

任何事情都可能發生。

Anything goes, it's all you know, fair and love and war.

什麼都可以，你只知道，公平、愛情和戰爭。

And, you know, he might just go to somewhere, go to another franchise that really values him as a player and builds around him, which would be great for Sam personally.

而且，你知道，他可能只是去某個地方，去另一個特許經營權，真正重視他作為一個球員，並建立在他周圍，這將是偉大的山姆個人。

Hey, Mark, in a world of instant gratification, will there be fans and people calling for Trevor Lawrence?

嘿，馬克，在這個即時滿足的世界裡，還會有粉絲和人們為特雷沃-勞倫斯打call嗎？

If this season continues to go this bad and is that fair to the current Jets players?

如果這個賽季繼續這樣糟糕下去，對現在的噴氣機球員來說，這公平嗎？

Well, it's, of course, it's goingto happen because that's the next, you know, sexy pick that's available.

嗯，這是，當然，這是怎麼回事發生 因為這是下一個，你知道， 性感的選擇，是可用的。

But it's the same rule, right?

但這是同樣的規則，對嗎？

I don't care how good your quarterback is.

我不在乎你的四分衛有多好。

He can only do so much.

他只能做這麼多。

It is the most dependent.

它是最依賴的。

It's the toughest position in all of sports, but it's the most dependent on the rest of the group position.

這是所有體育項目中最難的位置，但這是最依賴其他組員的位置。

In all of sports, right?

在所有的運動中，對嗎？

You need other players to make your job easier and that just it doesn't work like that.

你需要其他玩家來讓你的工作更輕鬆，只是這樣做是行不通的。

If you put Trevor in that situation right now, Trevor's on a better team currently.

如果你把特雷沃放在現在這種情況下，特雷沃目前在一支更好的球隊。

Then he would be if he got put on the Jets.

那如果他被安排到噴氣機隊，他就會。

So that doesn't help his cause.

所以這對他的事業沒有任何幫助。

That doesn't help the franchise win games.

這並不能幫助專營店贏得比賽。

What helps the franchise is building around your young quarterback, whoever that quarterback, maybe let's stay in the A F C.

是什麼幫助特許經營權是建立在你的年輕四分衛周圍，不管那個四分衛是誰，也許讓我們留在A F C。

East to, uh it's to a time he's getting his first start.

東到，呃，是到了他第一次上場的時候。

Why do you think the timing worked out this way?

為什麼你認為時間是這樣安排的？

Do you feel like they all of a sudden think, Hey, maybe we could make a run?

你是否覺得他們突然覺得，嘿，也許我們可以跑一趟？

What's the thinking?

是什麼思路？

You think I just It's still surprised me a little bit that I thought it would have been, uh, they would have made a change.

你覺得我只是... ...我還是有點驚訝，我以為會有，呃，他們會做出改變。

Maybe later in the year.

也許在今年晚些時候。

When they play, I think they go like jets.

當他們玩的時候，我覺得他們就像噴氣機一樣。

They play the Jets like two weeks in a row after Week 12 or something like that and then play another crappy team and then the Jets again.

他們在第12周後連續兩週對陣噴氣機隊，或者類似的事情，然後再對陣另一支爛隊，然後再對陣噴氣機隊。

It was like this weird three weeks stretch with a by and that was like looked like the perfect time for Fitzpatrick.

這就像這個奇怪的三週延伸與一個由，這就像看起來像完美的時間為菲茨帕特里克。

Hey, you kind of drive the car until they're after that.

嘿，你算是把車開到他們之後。

Hop in the back seat to a get in figure out the rest of the season now.

合在後座到一個得到在弄清楚本賽季的其餘部分，現在。

I mean, they're three and three, their competitive, but they're competitive with the guy who's playing okay, right?

我的意思是，他們三三兩兩，他們的競爭，但他們的競爭的傢伙誰是打好，對不對？

He's playing pretty solid, so I don't know if they're thinking is this is the spark.

他打得很紮實，所以我不知道他們是不是在想這就是火花。

We need to get us another couple winds quickly and put us in a position to compete with the Bills and the Pats.

我們需要儘快讓我們再取得幾場勝利，並讓我們處於與比爾和帕茨競爭的位置。

Maybe they feel the Pats are on a downward trajectory and this is their chance to strike while they're down and throw into it and see if he could make something happen.

也許他們覺得Pats隊正在走下坡路，這是他們趁勢出擊的機會，投入其中，看看他是否能有所作為。

But, you know, with the way things were shaken out in the A F.

但是，你知道，隨著事情的方式 被動搖了在A F。

C East, they really could compete.

C東，他們真的可以競爭。

It just seems like a weird and strange time to make a move like this.

只是在這個時候做出這樣的舉動，顯得很詭異，很奇怪。

So hopefully it works out and, you know, you know, people like us look stupid later on.

所以希望它能成功，你知道，你知道，像我們這樣的人以後看起來很傻。

Hopefully for two.

希望對兩。

And the Dolphins?

而海豚隊呢？

It works out that way.

它的工作原理是這樣的。

I just I don't know if that's gonna be the case.

我只是... ...我不知道是否會是這種情況。

Mark, give me the mindset and give us the mindset of backup, quarterback versus starter because you've been in both positions when you're back up and you get a chance.

馬克，給我一個心態，給我們一個備份、四分衛與主力的心態，因為當你備份的時候，你已經在這兩個位置上待過了，你有機會。

Is there a part of you that Thanks, man.

你是不是也有一部分人... ...謝謝你，夥計。

If I perform the way I know I can.

如果我按照我知道的方式去執行。

Maybe I'll give them some question marks.

也許我會給他們一些問號。

No, 100%.

嗯，100%。

I mean, that's the way when Foles went down in Philly, that's what I was thinking as a player, like who knows what's gonna happen when Nick I can't worry about him getting healthy.

我的意思是，當福爾斯在費城倒下的時候，這就是我作為一個球員的想法，就像誰知道會發生什麼，當尼克我不能擔心他的健康。

You want him to get healthy, you want him to play.

你想讓他恢復健康，你想讓他打球。

But at the same time, it's your professional responsibility to play well for the team and the guys.

但同時，你的職業責任就是為球隊和球員們打好球。

And, you know, just like when I was hurt, Gino Smith moves right in and starts playing like your loyalty is to the team and to your profession of being ready to play.

而且，你知道，就像我受傷的時候一樣，吉諾-史密斯馬上行動，開始打球，就像你對球隊的忠誠，對你準備打球的職業的忠誠。

So, of course, those thoughts flood your head like man.

所以，這些想法當然會像人一樣湧入你的腦海。

If we start winning, there's no need to make a change back, right?

如果我們開始贏了，就沒必要再換回來了吧？

So whoever's in there, you know, they're trying to play.

所以不管是誰在裡面，你知道，他們都想玩。

And just like everybody else, they're trying to compete and win and earn themselves a job.

就像其他人一樣，他們也想競爭，想贏，想給自己掙一份工作。

Let's talk about the rookie quarterback, class, borough and Herbert you like and what you're seeing.

讓我們來談談你喜歡的新秀四分衛、班級、行政區和赫伯特，以及你所看到的。

I love what I'm seeing out of both of these players.

我喜歡我看到的這兩位球員的表現。

To be totally honest, I did not expect this much from Herbert.

說實話，我並沒有對赫伯特有這麼大的期望。

Uh, you know, from for Borough, I thought he was just, uh you know, much farther along in his maturation process as a player, much farther developed as a quarterback because he's been in those situations at such a high level, where at Oregon, I feel like Justin Herbert.

呃，你知道，從Borough，我認為他只是，呃，你知道，更遠沿 在他的成熟過程中，作為一個球員， 更遠發展作為一個四分衛，因為他一直在這些情況下 在這樣一個高層次的，在俄勒岡州，我覺得像賈斯汀・赫伯特。

He was just his quarterback.

他只是他的四分衛。

Growth was stunted because of the constant change over at offensive coordinator and because they never really like, developed the playbook in a way and did the things that he's doing now in the NFL.

成長受阻，因為在進攻協調員的不斷變化，因為他們從來沒有真正喜歡，開發的方式的劇本，做的事情，他現在在NFL。

Which is crazy to think about, because if he could have done that in college, he would have been, you know, him and borough would have been the clear cut Heisman guys their year.

如果他能在大學裡做到這一點，他就會成為，你知道，他和Borough會成為他們那一年的海斯曼選手。 這真是太瘋狂了。

But Herbert, every time they changed over offensive coordinators.

但赫伯特，每次他們換過進攻協調人。

It seemed like they just went back and watched the film from the year before and said, Okay, you know, he does the read option pretty well.

好像他們只是回過頭去看了前一年的電影，然後說，好吧，你知道，他的閱讀選項做得很好。

He throws on the run pretty well.

他在跑動中投得很好。

We'll just kind of do that and go from there instead of Hey, let's develop this guy.

我們只是一種做，從那裡去，而不是嘿，讓我們發展這個傢伙。

Let's work on play action stuff.

讓我們在遊戲動作的東西上下功夫。

Let's see if he can process all these reeds and still throw a catchable ball on third downs.

讓我們看看他能不能把這些蘆葦處理好，還能在第三次進攻中投出一個可接球。

Let's see what our 3rd 3rd down package can be.

讓我們看看我們的三號位三號位套餐能做到什麼程度。

Let's explore some different options in the red zone and see what it can be.

讓我們來探討一下紅區的一些不同的選擇，看看它可以是什麼。

Then throw.

然後扔。

You know, essentially throw everything on the wall, see what sticks.

你知道，基本上把所有的東西都扔到牆上，看看有什麼能粘住。

Okay, He does this well.

好吧，他做得很好。

Let's continue to do that and grow in other areas that he's not as good.

讓我們繼續做下去，並在其他他不擅長的領域有所發展。

And that's really how you develop a quarterback.

而這才是培養一個四分衛的真正方法。

And he seems to be developing just fine.

而且他似乎發展的還不錯。

He's kept them in games, and the fact that Cincinnati's in any game right now is solely because of Joe Burrow.

他讓他們一直在比賽中 辛辛那提隊現在能打進任何一場比賽 完全是因為喬-伯羅的功勞。

I mean, he has barely any time in the pocket, and he's made some exceptional plays this year, so and he's taking some big time hit.

我的意思是，他幾乎沒有任何時間在口袋裡， 他做了一些特殊的行動，今年，所以，他採取了一些大的時間打擊。

So he's trying to figure that out, but he sure looks good.

所以他正在努力想辦法，但他看起來確實不錯。

And he's, um he's progressing just fine.

而他，嗯，他的進步就好了。

Hey, Mark, when you're a hot young quarterback in the league that everyone's talking about isn't adjustment when you actually lose, Because I'm guessing a guy like you from the time you were playing as a little kid.

嘿，馬克，當你是聯盟中炙手可熱的年輕四分衛，大家都在談論的時候，是不是真的輸了就不調整了，因為我猜像你這樣的人，從你小時候打球的時候。

High school USC days, you're used to winning.

高中南加州大學的日子，你已經習慣了勝利。

Is that a crazy adjustment?

這是一個瘋狂的調整嗎？

When you go to the NFL, it's like, Oh, crap, Winning is not that easy at this level, right?

當你去NFL的時候，你會覺得，哦，糟糕，在這個級別上贏球不是那麼容易的，對吧？

It's, Ah, harsh realization, just like injuries, you know, injuries or 100% probability, and so is losing you.

這是，啊，殘酷的認識，就像受傷一樣，你知道，受傷還是100%的概率，失去你也是一樣。

It zits difficult because you can't get usedto losing.

痘痘很難受，因為你無法習慣失去。

You never want to get used to losing.

你永遠都不想習慣失去。

But understanding that it comes along with playing in this league at this high of a level, essentially, you know, somebody like Pete Carroll and Russell Russell Wilson has adopted this.

但理解它伴隨著在這個聯盟中打出這麼高的水準，基本上，你知道，像皮特-卡羅爾和拉塞爾-拉塞爾-威爾遜這樣的人已經採用了這個。

They never lose.

他們從來沒有輸過。

They just kind of ran out of time, right?

他們只是時間不夠用了，對吧？

If there was more time on the clock, that kind of points and end up winning.

如果時間上多一些，那種點，最後就會贏。

So essentially, that's kind of where you have to put your mind frame on bond and compartmentalized these games.

所以本質上，這也算是你要把自己的心智框架放在債券上，把這些遊戲分門別類。

It's never okay to lose, but in some ways it is on.

失落是永遠不會好的，但在某些方面是在的。

There's a very fine line in just accepting, losing and understanding how to deal with Mark.

只是接受、失去和理解如何處理馬克，這是很細微的界限。

Let's do some real quick takes market or not, I'm gonna throw some quarterback thoughts that you you let us know what you think.

讓我們做一些真正的快速採取市場與否，我會扔一些四分衛的想法，你你讓我們知道你的想法。

Matt Ryan will be traded by the Falcons at some point this year.

馬特-萊恩將在今年的某個時候被獵鷹隊交易。

I said that a couple weeks ago, which would be crazy if the Falcons do a fire sale.

我在幾周前就說過，如果獵鷹隊進行火爆的銷售，這將是瘋狂的。

I know that might be the best place for them to just start acquiring picks and all that, but Matt Ryan is quietly having an incredible year, and he's getting overshadowed by the rookie.

我知道這可能是他們剛剛開始收購選秀權和所有這些的最好的地方，但馬特-萊恩正在悄悄地有一個令人難以置信的一年，他被新秀所掩蓋。

Quarterbacks were playing while by the Patrick Mahomes homes and Lamar Jackson's of the world.

四分衛們在打球，而由帕特里克-馬霍姆斯家和拉馬爾-傑克遜的世界。

But, man, he would be a huge pickup for, you know, I said the Cowboys.

但是，夥計，他將是一個巨大的選擇，你知道，我說的牛仔隊。

As soon as Doc went down, I said, maybe they bring them into Dallas.

醫生一下去，我就說，也許他們會把他們帶到達拉斯去。

Or, uh, you know, if Cam went down for a long time or somebody goes down, you know, in in New England, or even Buffalo, a team that has a chance toe win right now.

或者，呃，你知道，如果卡姆倒下了很久 或者有人倒下了，你知道，在新英格蘭，甚至是水牛城，一支有機會獲勝的球隊。

Dude, go snatch him up quick and and see how far you could take it.

夥計，快去把他搶過來，看看你能把他帶多遠。

I don't hate that pick.

我不討厭這個選擇。

How about this Russ shoe in for the M V P market?

這款Russ鞋在M V P市場怎麼樣？

I mean, he's playing out of his head right now.

我是說，他現在是在胡思亂想。

He's him and Pete Carroll.

他就是他和Pete Carroll

When the head coach and quarterback are that compatible and literally speak the same language, you see the way they do interviews.

當主教練和四分衛是那樣的兼容，簡直說的是同一種語言，你看他們做採訪的方式。

You see the way they interact with the players.

你看他們與玩家的互動方式。

I mean, it's It's like the exact same person, just a younger and more athletic form.

我的意思是，這就像完全相同的人， 只是一個年輕和更運動的形式。

Right in.

就在。

Russell Wilson.

Russell Wilson

This guy's making insane plays.

這傢伙在做瘋狂的遊戲。

Talk about just running out of time, toe lose games.

說到只是時間不夠，趾高氣揚的輸掉比賽。

I mean, they're like playing on borrowed time, winning these games in the rain against the Vikings.

我的意思是，他們就像在借來的時間裡打球，在雨中贏下這些比賽，對陣維京人隊。

I mean, that game was insane.

我是說，那場比賽太瘋狂了。

So these guys are there on one.

所以這些人都是有一。

I would not be surprised at all if Russell Wilson wins the M V P.

如果羅素-威爾遜贏得M V P，我一點也不驚訝。

40 Niners could win long term with Jimmy Garoppolo.

40九人隊可以和吉米-加洛波洛一起長期贏球。

Ooh, that's a tough one.

哦，這是一個艱難的一個。

I feel like that's another landing spot, potentially for Matt Ryan, because I wouldn't mind.

我覺得那是另一個落腳點，有可能是馬特-萊恩的，因為我不介意。

I'm a Niners guy through this jersey right here is only as loyal is, uh, a duct tape over that you're the guy.

我是一個九指幫的人，通過這件球衣，在這裡是唯一的忠誠是，呃，一個膠布，你的傢伙。

Put Gino Smith on the back of my journey in New York.

把吉諾-史密斯放在我在紐約的旅程的後面。

You are so that my mom cried.

你這樣我媽都哭了。

Let me give you thanks a lot.

讓我給你很多的感謝。

Let me give you one more.

讓我再給你一個。

How about this one?

這個怎麼樣？

Cowboys are loyal and end up keeping and sticking with Doc and paying them.

牛仔們都很忠誠，最後還能留住和堅持多克，給他們發工資。

I mean, you'd love to see that in a vacuum, you know, in some sort of happy bubble.

我的意思是，你會喜歡看到在真空中， 你知道，在某種快樂的保麗龍。

Yes, but I mean, right now, essentially on it's unfortunate, but they really have all the leverage.

是的，但我的意思是，現在， 基本上，它是不幸的， 但他們真的有所有的槓桿。

So Dax now gotta prove himself again.

所以Dax現在要再次證明自己

He's got to prove that he's healthy and durable and then go out and have the same kind of year that he was having this year just to get paid again.

他要證明自己是健康的，是持久的，然後再去打出今年那樣的成績，只是為了再拿錢。

So I wouldn't be surprised if they franchise him.

所以，如果他們特許他，我也不會驚訝。

But I don't know if they're going to sign him to a long term deal.

但我不知道他們是否會和他簽下一份長期合約。

Unless, you know, they go in bull in a china closet and basically say, Hey, I know you wanted this.