What's your reaction to this?

你對此有什麼反應？

Higher?

更高？

Well, you know, I'm a big fan of Stan Van Gundy.

嗯, 你知道, 我是Stan Van Gundy的忠實粉絲.

Do I love the hired?

我喜歡被僱傭的人嗎？

No, but I do like the higher.

沒有，但我確實喜歡高一點的。

And here's why.

這就是為什麼。

I believe that stand that Stan Van Gundy is a true definition of culture, and that's what these young guys need.

我相信這個立場，斯坦-范甘迪是文化的真正定義，這也是這些年輕人需要的。

I watched what Stan did for Dwight Howard when he first got to the Orlando Magic.

我看了斯坦剛到奧蘭多魔術隊時為德懷特-霍華德做的事。

Dwight Howard had something in his best years.

德懷特-霍華德在他最好的年華里，也有一些東西。

He was a guy that was, Ah, public.

他是一個人，啊，公開。

I can't figure at the time, and this is the same situation with Zion Williamson.

我當時想不通，這也是錫安-威廉姆森的情況。

I think that stand would be the best would do right by him.

我覺得這個立場是最好的會做對他。

Put him in position to be successful with the pelicans contend for a title.

把他放在與鵜鶘隊爭奪冠軍成功的位置上。

I don't believe so, but I do believe that this is a nice starting point to develop culture and foundation.

我不這麼認為，但我相信這是一個很好的發展文化和基礎的起點。

George, this is such an important higher with where Zion Williamson is, and this organization is they really needed an experience steadying hand.

喬治，這是一個如此重要的更高與錫安-威廉姆森在哪裡，這個組織是他們真的需要一個經驗穩定的手。

David Griffin really wanted to hire Tyler, but Tyler was in demand when the Clippers job came open.

大衛-格里芬真的很想聘請泰勒，但當快船隊的工作空缺時，泰勒是有需求的。

He just wasn't gonna leave that opportunity to go to New Orleans right after that with Stan Van Gundy.

他只是不打算把這個機會留給斯坦-范甘迪，之後就去新奧爾良。

And to be honest with you, after stand, it was a lot of guys who'd be first time head coaches.

而且說實話，站隊之後，很多人都是第一次當主教練。

So David Griffin had to execute this higher from what I am told, he actually offered him the job over the weekend on.

所以大衛-格里芬必須執行這個更高的據我所知，他實際上在週末給他提供了這份工作，在。

But it took several days of negotiating not only the contract, but how everything would work with his staff to get stand comfortable with taking it.

但花了好幾天的時間，不僅談判了合同，還談判了一切如何與他的員工一起工作，才讓他站在舒適的立場上接受合同。

And JJ Reddick, I have been told, played a big role here.

而JJ-雷迪克，我被告知，在這裡起到了很大的作用。

JJ played for him in New Orleans, was a big part of the background and recruiting process, and so I don't know if it's gonna work out.

JJ在新奧爾良為他打球，是背景和招募過程中的重要組成部分，所以我不知道是否會成功。

But I know that Stan Van Gundy is an excellent coach, and I suspect the pelicans will get better with this higher.

但我知道，斯坦-范甘迪是一位優秀的教練，我懷疑鵜鶘隊會在這個更高的地方變得更好。

Yeah, I'm a big fan of stand as everyone is here, certainly, and Brian, I want to get to the Zion stuff specifically in a second, but perk.

是的，我是站在這裡的大家的忠實粉絲，當然，布賴恩，我想馬上具體說說錫安的事情，但養生。

You said you liked it but didn't love it.

你說你喜歡，但不愛它。

Is there a specific reason why you don't necessarily love it?

有什麼具體的原因讓你不一定喜歡嗎？

Well, here's why I thought that they were going to go younger.

好吧，這就是為什麼我認為他們會變得更年輕。

I thought a former player in that position, especially with their young nucleus, that they have Zion Williamson, Brandon Ingram and Lonzo Ball.

我以為在這個位置上的一個前球員，特別是他們的年輕核心，他們有錫安-威廉姆森，布蘭登-英格拉姆和朗佐-鮑爾。

I thought that they needed to bring a guy in there that was gonna be ableto have a great positive impact on Lonzo Ball.

我想他們需要帶一個人去那裡，能夠對Lonzo Ball產生積極的影響。

I thought, a guy like maybe Mark Jackson Ah, guy like J.

我想，像馬克-傑克遜這樣的人 啊，像J。

Kidd.

基德

They played the point guard position.

他們打的是得分後衛的位置。

If you look at what Mark Jackson did for the foundation in the in the culture and what he did for Steph Curry, Hey, he took the Golden State Warriors from Mirella from being the relevant to being relevant, and then Steve Kerr came on in.

如果你看看馬克-傑克遜為在文化中的基礎所做的事情，以及他為斯蒂芬-庫裡所做的事情，嘿，他把金州勇士隊從米雷拉從相關到相關，然後史蒂夫-科爾進來了。

If you look at what J.

如果你看看J。

Kidd did for Johannes in Milwaukee, when he got there, he helped Johannes game tremendously.

基德在密爾沃基為約翰內斯做的，當他到了那裡，他對約翰內斯的比賽幫助極大。

And I thought that those two guys could have a real positive impact on Lonzo ball, and that will take the Pelicans to New Heights and Brian Perk.

而我以為，這兩個人可以對朗佐球產生真正的積極影響，這將把鵜鶘隊帶到新的高度，而布萊恩-佩克。

I don't think you're wrong in saying I don't think perk is wrong in saying that.

我不認為你說的不對，我不認為perk說的不對。

I just think that perk There's just no room for gambling here.

我只是覺得這個福利這裡沒有賭博的空間。

And Mark Jackson and Jason Kidd's resumes are a little shaky compared to Stan Van Gundy's, and so it may not end up working out.

而馬克-傑克遜和傑森-基德的履歷與斯坦-范甘迪相比，就顯得有些搖搖欲墜了，所以最終可能不會成功。

But this was the safest bet that they could make on a guy who they feel could get this turned in the right direction.

但這是他們能做的最安全的賭注，他們覺得這個人可以讓這個事情朝著正確的方向發展。

Because, to be honest with you, with a young player even going into a second year, it gets late fast.

因為，說實話，一個年輕的球員即使進入第二年，也會很快變晚。

This higher was so valuable, so important.

這個高等是如此的寶貴，如此的重要。

Yeah, I'm with you, Brian.

是的，我支持你，布萊恩。

In that regard, I'm not trying to disparage Mark or Jason Kidd.

在這方面，我並不是要貶低馬克或傑森-基德。

I do think both guys deserve another opportunity.

我確實認為這兩個人都應該再獲得一次機會。

I don't think there's any question about that.

我不認為有任何疑問。

But you know what you've got in Stan Van Gundy and a guy who brings defense to the table eight of his 10 seasons that he's coached previously.

但你知道你在斯坦-范甘迪身上得到了什麼，還有一個在他之前執教的10個賽季中，有8個賽季帶來了防守的傢伙。

They've been a top defensive team, and we'll get into that aspect of it in a little bit, too.

他們一直是一支頂級的防守球隊，我們一會兒也會說到這方面的問題。

And again, he's coached to an MBA Finals before on an MBA Finals team in the Eastern Conference with Dwight Howard, but Bryant the Zion part of it, as you kind of alluded to, It's so important.

再一次，他曾經在MBA總決賽上執教過德懷特-霍華德，在東部聯盟的MBA總決賽上執教過，但布萊恩特的錫安部分，正如你所提到的，它是如此重要。

How much did that factor into this specific equation and what do you expect from this particular relationship?

這在這個具體的方程中佔了多大的因素，你對這種特殊的關係有什麼期望？

Well, you know, standing Gundy is not a guy who plays favorites or panders to players.

嗯，你知道的，站崗迪不是一個徇私舞弊或迎合球員的人。

He's a guy who is not afraid to get into his players.

他是一個不懼怕進入他的球員的人。

Face is not afraid to have friction.

面不怕有摩擦。

This is not gonna be a relationship to make Zion Williams and comfortable and happy.

這不會是一段讓錫安-威廉姆斯和舒服快樂的關係。

It's gonna be a relationship made the push, Zion and we one of the things that needs to happen.

這將是一個關係使推，錫安和我們需要發生的事情之一。

Zion needs to bond with the organization.

錫安需要與組織結合。

I'm not so sure how well it happened in the first year there.

我不知道那裡第一年的情況如何。

There's a little bit of a distance there on, and I don't know if stands the perfect choice.

有一點距離有上，我不知道是否站在完美的選擇。

But stand definitely will elevate their level of play.

但站肯定會提升他們的水準。

And it's probably the type of disciplinarian that Zion could use.

而這大概是錫安可以使用的懲戒者類型。

Let me let me let me find that that goes back to my point that this is I don't strongly believe that's what Zion need at this point of time in his career.

讓我讓我讓我發現，這又回到了我的觀點，這是我不堅信這是錫安在他職業生涯的這個時間點上所需要的。

He don't need a guy that's gonna jump into his face.

他不需要一個會跳到他臉上的傢伙。

He need a guy that's gonna be able to guide him on and off the court.

他需要一個能在球場內外指導他的人。

And that's why I said a player, coach Ah, guy that played in the league will be the best fit for Zion on, so he could show him the ropes, not only on the court but off the court.

這就是為什麼我說一個球員，教練啊，在聯盟中打球的傢伙將是最適合錫安上，所以他可以告訴他的規則，不僅在球場上，而且在球場外。

Accountability is one thing.

問責制是一回事。

Excellent, excellent owes or another thing.

優秀的，優秀的欠或另一個東西。

But but being able to relate, that's a whole different thing.

但是，但能不能感同身受，那就是另外一回事了。

This is not back in the day.

這已經不是當年的事了。

This is a new era.

這是一個新的時代。

This is a new generation of players, and you have to find ways to relate to get the best out of them.

這是新一代的玩家，你必須找到與他們相關的方法，以獲得最好的效果。

So that one, they could trust you to, that they're going to go to war for you.

所以，那個，他們可以信任你，他們要為你去打仗。

And three, that they know that you have their best interests at heart.

第三，他們知道你是以他們的利益為重。

But perk.

但養生。

Let me ask you this.

讓我問你這個問題。

How do you establish that culture and also, you know, try to relate, Like I think that's a hard line to tow in some situations.

你如何建立這種文化，同時，你知道， 試圖涉及，就像我認為這是一個艱難的線 拖在某些情況下。

What What this is This is a prime example off.

這是什麼這是什麼這是一個典型的例子關。

What just happened with the Los Angeles Clippers?

洛杉磯快船隊剛剛發生了什麼？

This is why Tie Lewis the This is why the Clipper team?

這就是為什麼鐵劉易斯這就是快船隊的原因？

Not just not just the front office, not just Steve Balmer, not just, uh, Lawrence, Frank wanted, and Jerry West wanted doc out, but the players wanted t loo.

不只是前臺，不只是Steve Balmer 不只是Lawrence，Frank想要，Jerry West想要Doc出局，但球員們也想出局。

The players wanted T.

玩家們希望T。

Liu because he was young.

劉先生因為年輕。

He could relate to them.

他可以和他們聯繫起來。

He know what's going on.

他知道發生了什麼事。

They have.

他們有。

They could have a better relationship and be able to coexist better.

他們可以有更好的關係，能夠更好的共存。

It's a way that behind the scenes, ah, younger coach could go toe a player and talk to them, and they could relate because of the culture status.

這是一種方式，在幕後，啊，年輕的教練可以去到一個球員，並與他們交談，他們可以涉及，因為文化地位。

This is why there was like, you know, maybe Doc is not that guy.

這就是為什麼有這樣的，你知道，也許醫生不是那個人。

He's a lot older.

他老了很多。

He can't relate to the new to the new world of the MBA.

他無法與新到的MBA新世界聯繫在一起。

So we won't tie Lou.

所以我們不會與盧平起平坐。

And this is the same situation is what I'm talking about right now for the New Orleans Pelicans.

而我現在說的新奧爾良鵜鶘隊也是這種情況。

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