字幕列表 影片播放 由 AI 自動生成 列印所有字幕 列印翻譯字幕 列印英文字幕 - For a few years now, - 幾年來。 I've been saying this thing. 我一直在說這件事。 If the most important part of a new phone for you 如果說新手機對你來說最重要的部分是什麼? is the camera, maybe instead of buying a new phone 是相機,也許而不是買一個新的手機。 you should think about buying a new camera. 你應該考慮買一臺新相機。 I've been thinking a lot about that advice 我一直在思考這個建議。 since I started testing these two Sony products. 自從我開始測試這兩款索尼產品後。 This is the Sony Xperia 1 II smart phone, 這就是索尼Xperia 1 II智能手機。 and this is the Sony ZV-1 vlogging camera. 這就是索尼ZV-1攝像。 And both of these are excellent devices 而這兩種設備都是很好的設備 if you're looking for a really specific thing. 如果你正在尋找一個非常具體的東西。 But if you're just looking for the best smartphone 但如果你只是在尋找最佳的智能手機 or the best pocketable camera, 還是最好的口袋型相機。 I don't think either one of these 我覺得這兩個都不是 would be my first pick. 會是我的第一選擇。 But they are worth talking about 但它們是值得談論的 because they come from a different world than we're used to 因為他們來自不同的世界,與我們習慣的世界不同。 and it's one that can teach us something. 而且是可以給我們一些啟示的。 You know what it's like to live in Apples iPhone world 你知道生活在蘋果iPhone世界裡是什麼感覺嗎? or Google's Pixel world, or even Samsung's Galaxy... 或谷歌的Pixel世界,甚至三星的Galaxy ... World? Galaxy world? 世界?銀河世界? Sure. 當然可以 But there's a Sony world too, 但也有一個索尼的世界。 and living in it for a while 並在其中生活一段時間 has clarified how I think about cameras. 澄清了我對相機的看法。 So, here's a question. 所以,這裡有一個問題。 What can we learn from Sony world? 我們可以從索尼世界學到什麼? (relaxed electronic music) (輕鬆的電子音樂) So, I just have to tell you that this video 所以,我只是要告訴你,這個視頻 has been super hard for me to make. 已經超難讓我。 This is probably my third attempt 這可能是我第三次嘗試 at doing something with one of these devices 在這些設備上做一些事情 and I think it's because my brain 我想這是因為我的大腦 is just chock-full of little details 只是充滿了小細節 and observations and opinions, so, 和觀察和意見,所以。 instead what I decided to do is 而我決定做的是 we're gonna have a full review of each of these devices 我們將對這些設備進行全面評測。 up on theverge.com, but it's way too much 在theverge.com上,但它的方式太多。 for a single video, or even a couple, 對於單個視頻,甚至一對夫婦。 and so instead, I wanna talk about Sony world, 所以,我想談談索尼的世界。 or more specifically, Sony camera world. 或者更具體地說,索尼相機世界。 See, Sony is a monster in mirrorless cameras, 看吧,索尼在無反相機領域是個怪物。 they're really good at shooting far-cam video, 他們是真正的好 在拍攝遠鏡頭視頻。 and some of them are great all-rounders. 而其中一些人是偉大的全能者。 So, I'm using a Sony a7 III right now, 所以,我現在用的是索尼a7 III。 before that I was using an RX100, 在此之前,我使用的是RX100。 there's a whole ecosystem around them and, 有一個完整的生態系統圍繞著他們和。 Sony cameras also have quirks, 索尼相機也有怪癖。 like impenetrable menus and unique color science, 比如無法穿透的菜單和獨特的色彩學。 but generally they're really well regarded. 但一般來說,他們真的很受重視。 And so, the Sony Xperia 1 II 於是,索尼Xperia 1 II is Sony's attempt to take a smart phone 是索尼在智能手機上的嘗試。 and put it inside that camera world. 並把它放在那個相機世界裡面。 You might know that Sony already makes great camera sensors, 你可能知道,索尼已經在製造偉大的相機傳感器。 your phone right now might even use one, 你的手機現在甚至可能使用一個。 but historically, Sony's phone cameras 但從歷史上看,索尼的手機攝像頭 have been kinda, meh. 一直有點,我。 So the Xperia 1 II's big idea 那麼Xperia 1 II的大意是什麼呢? is to make Sony's phones work 是為了讓索尼的手機工作 a little bit more like Sony's cameras. 有點像索尼的相機。 Okay, so I actually should tell you 好吧,所以我其實應該告訴你 a little bit more about each of these devices 關於這些設備的更多資訊 and I'm gonna do it really fast. 我要做的非常快。 Normally these would be the whole review, 一般來說,這些都會是整個審查的內容。 but I've got other things to talk about so, 但我有其他的事情要談,所以。 buckle up. 繫好安全帶 (he sighs) Here we go. (他嘆了口氣)我們走吧。 Sony Xperia 1 II is the sequel 索尼Xperia 1 II是續作。 to the Sony Xperia 1, duh. 到索尼Xperia 1,杜。 It is Sony's attempt at making a super flagship 5G phone 這是索尼在做一款超級旗艦5G手機的嘗試。 and it costs 1,200 bucks in the U.S., 而在美國要花1200塊錢。 where it doesn't support 5G for bad reasons. 其中,它不支持5G的原因是不好的。 Whatever. 管他呢 Sony likes making these super tall 索尼喜歡做這些超高的 21 by 9 aspect ratio screens, 21×9寬高比螢幕。 and I actually kinda dig it, 其實我還挺喜歡它的。 even though this phone is a little bit too big for me. 儘管這款手機對我來說有點太大了。 I think the overall aesthetics are really clean 我覺得整體的美感真的很乾淨。 and really nice. 而且真的不錯。 Sony also checks a lot of rare feature boxes, 索尼還檢查了很多罕見的功能箱。 this is a 4K OLED screen, there's a fingerprint sensor 這是一個4K OLED螢幕,有一個指紋傳感器。 on the power button, there's a real, 在電源鍵上,有一個真正。 honest-to-God shutter button, there's a headphone jack, 誠實的快門按鈕,還有一個耳機插孔。 there's Micro SD card slot expansion, 有Micro SD卡槽擴展。 there's dual front facing speakers. 有雙前置揚聲器。 It runs Android pretty well, 運行安卓系統相當不錯。 it's a relatively clean install, 這是一個比較乾淨的安裝。 Sony's cleaned some stuff up, 索尼的清理了一些東西。 but the whole point of this phone 但是這款手機的重點 is the camera system. 是攝像系統。 And there, Sony is focusing, aha, 而在那裡,索尼正在聚焦,啊哈。 on a familiar Sony camera interface, 在熟悉的索尼相機界面上。 but most of all, a 1 over 1.7 inch 12 megapixel sensor 但最重要的是,1超過1.7英寸的1200萬像素傳感器 which is pretty big for a phone. 這對手機來說是相當大的。 This thing can focus 60 times per second, 這東西每秒可以對焦60次。 it can shoot 20 full resolution images per second, 它可以每秒拍攝20張全分辨率影像。 it can focus on your eye, 它可以聚焦你的眼睛。 or it can focus on your pet's eye. 或者它可以聚焦在寵物的眼睛上。 (he sighs) (他嘆氣) Yeah. 是啊。 Okay, now, the Sony ZV-1 vlogging camera. 好了,現在,索尼ZV-1攝像。 It is basically an RX100 with the optics, 基本上就是RX100的光學系統。 the zoom, and ND filter of the mark 5, 的變焦,和ND濾鏡的標記5。 but with the faster focusing, updated one inch sensor 但有了更快的對焦,更新的一英寸傳感器 and video processing capabilities 和視頻處理能力 of the mark 7. 的標誌7。 However, Sony finally made the right kind 然而,索尼終於做出了一種正確的 of flip-out screen that you want for vlogging, 的翻轉屏,你想要的vlog。 but they replaced the magnesium body with plastic, 但他們用塑膠代替了鎂合金機身。 they got rid of the electronic viewfinder, 他們擺脫了電子取景器。 they got rid of the focus ring, 他們擺脫了對焦環。 and they got rid of the flash 他們擺脫了閃光 and in replacement of those, 並取代這些。 you get a better three mic array microphone. 你得到一個更好的三個麥克風陣列麥克風。 You get a tally light which shows it's recording, 你會得到一個計數燈,顯示它的記錄。 and you get a hot shoe. 你就會得到一隻熱鞋。 Plus there's a couple of neat pre-set options, 另外還有幾個整潔的預設選項。 it has a background de-focus button 它有一個背景去焦按鈕 that automatically sets the aperture 自動設置光圈 to its most open to blur your background, 以其最開放的方式來模糊你的背景。 and it has a product focus button 而且它有一個產品聚焦按鈕 that turns off face priority 關閉面子優先權 so it can focus on the product you're showing the camera 這樣它就可以把注意力集中在你向相機展示的產品上了 and not just lock onto your face. 而不僅僅是鎖定在你的臉上。 Oh, and it's only 800 bucks, which is 400 bucks 哦,才800塊錢,也就是400塊錢。 less than the RX100 mark 7. 比RX100標7少。 Oh, and you get a free dead cat! 哦,你會得到一隻免費的死貓! That's what they call the thing 這就是他們所說的東西 that keeps the wind from hitting your microphone, 可以防止風吹到你的麥克風。 it's called a dead cat, I don't know. 這就是所謂的死貓,我不知道。 Camera people get to have jokes too, okay? 攝像的人也會有笑話,好嗎? That might be the fastest I've done any spec run down 這可能是我做過的最快的規格跑下來的。 of a gadget, much less two in a row, 的小工具,更不用說連著兩個。 but I think we did it. 但我認為我們做到了。 And, if you live in Android world, 而且,如果你生活在安卓世界裡。 you maybe heard this Xperia description 你也許聽說過這個Xperia描述 and you thought to yourself, 你想,自己。 ah, that's interesting, tell me more about the camera 啊,那是有趣的,告訴我更多關於相機的事 but I don't know if it's worth 1,200 bucks. 但我不知道它是否值得1200元。 Probably not, and you're right. 也許不是,你是對的。 But, maybe the second explanation of this camera 但是,也許這臺相機的第二個解釋 was gibberish to you. 對你來說是胡言亂語。 But if you live in Sony camera world, 但如果你生活在索尼相機的世界裡。 you heard that explanation 你聽說過嗎 and you now know exactly what the ZV-1 is, 你現在知道ZV-1是什麼了吧? what it can do, and whether or not 它能做什麼,以及是否 it'll work for your needs, 它能滿足你的需求。 you might know that, yeah, you need interchangeable lenses, 你可能知道,是的,你需要可換鏡頭。 or maybe you just wanna have a B cam, 也許你只是想有一個B凸輪。 or you just want something that's this powerful, 或者你只是想得到這麼強大的東西。 that can do this much, that fits in your pocket. 可以做這麼多,適合你的口袋。 Or maybe it was all gibberish, 也可能都是胡言亂語。 I mean, that's totally fair. 我的意思是,這是完全公平的。 If I hadn't spent the last 10 years 如果不是我花了10年的時間 learning how Android phones work, 學習Android手機的工作原理。 or the last three months on a goddamn crash course 或過去三個月在一個該死的速成班。 in Sony camera so I could shoot video 在索尼相機中,所以我可以拍攝視頻 during a lockdown, it might've been gibberish to me too. 在封鎖期間,它可能已經是胡言亂語對我來說也。 The point here isn't necessarily 這裡的重點不一定是 all the individual details of the specs, 所有規格的個別細節。 what I wanna talk about in this video is, 我想在這段視頻中談的是: what they mean for how you 它們對你的意義 actually end up using these cameras. 實際上最終使用這些相機。 Okay, so I'm gonna do this, 好吧,所以我要做這個。 I'll turn on the background de-focus. 我打開背景去焦。 Ooh. 哦。 Okay, how is the Sony ZV-1 as a vlogging camera? 好了,索尼ZV-1作為一款vloging相機怎麼樣? I actually think it's kinda stupendous. 其實我覺得還挺驚豔的。 I admit this is a parts bin camera, 我承認這是一臺零件倉相機。 it's basically an RX100 with a bunch of customizations 它基本上是一個RX100與一堆定製化。 made for vlogging, but I love the RX100. 為攝像而生,但我喜歡RX100。 But there are some limitations here to know about, so, 但這裡有一些侷限性要知道,所以。 the widest that this lens can get 最寬的鏡頭 is the equivalent of 24 millimeters, 相當於24毫米。 which isn't quite wide enough 不夠寬 to comfortably hold the camera out 舒適地伸出相機 to point at your face unless you've got it 指著你的臉,除非你已經得到它。 way out on your arm like I do now or, 就像我現在這樣在你的手臂上,或者。 use a selfie stick, my arm is actually 用自拍杆,其實我的手臂是... already kinda tired right now. 已經有點累了,現在。 It also props in a little bit 它也是一個小道具 if you have image stabilization on and so, 如果你開啟了影像穩定功能,所以。 if you're gonna get this thing, 如果你要得到這個東西, you've really gotta get a selfie stick 你真的要買個自拍杆了。 in order to do proper vlogging with it. 為了用它做適當的vlogging。 But, other than that, in terms of simplicity 但是,除此之外,從簡單的角度來說,。 and in terms of not having a ceiling 而在沒有上限的情況下 for when you wanna learn to do more professional stuff, 當你想學習做更專業的東西時。 this thing is great. 這東西是偉大的。 I mean, look, this thing is wildly capable 我的意思是,你看,這東西是野生的能力。 as a camera. 作為一個攝像頭。 It has basically all of the same features 它的功能基本上都是一樣的 and options as my a7 III there, 和選項作為我的a7三有。 but it's in a $800 package that fits in my pocket. 但它在一個800美元的包,適合我的口袋裡。 And I also love this product showcase feature 而我也喜歡這個產品展示功能 which basically turns on a bunch of settings 基本上打開了一系列的設置 that are already available on other Sony cameras, 其他索尼相機上已經有的。 but it simplifies it to one button, 但它簡化為一個按鈕。 so it turns off face priority, 所以它關閉了面子優先權。 so if I put something in front of the camera, 所以,如果我把東西放在相機前, it'll focus on the closer thing to the camera 它將聚焦在離相機較近的地方 instead of to my face, 而不是當著我的面。 and then it'll focus on my face again, 然後它又會聚焦在我的臉上。 and then on this thing, 然後在這個東西。 and it does it really fast. 而且它做得非常快。 Now, I do have to use this camera 現在,我確實要用這個相機 a little bit differently that I would use an a7 III, 和我使用a7 III的方式有點不同。 or even how I'd use a phone to do vlogging, 甚至我怎麼會用手機來做vlogging。 and I want you to hold that thought 我希望你能保持這種想法 about using cameras differently 關於相機的不同使用方式 because it's super important. 因為這是超級重要的。 But right now, let's get back 但現在,讓我們回到 to this Xperia 1 II. 到這款Xperia 1 II。 See, the Xperia has this hot shit, big sensor 你看,Xperia有這個熱狗屎,大傳感器。 that can do eye auto-focus and focus really fast 可以做到眼睛自動對焦,對焦速度非常快的。 and shoot fast Birch photos, 並快速拍攝樺樹照片。 but the standard camera app is kinda, meh? 但標準的相機應用是有點,呵? The pictures it takes are okay, 它拍的照片還不錯。 but they feel a little bit lifeless. 但他們覺得有點沒有生命力。 But that's part of Sony's game here. 但這也是索尼在這裡的遊戲的一部分。 It knows that it can't hang with Google or Apple 它知道,它不能與谷歌或蘋果掛起鉤來。 or maybe even Samsung when it comes to image processing, 甚至可能在圖像處理方面,三星。 so instead it just kinda skips that for the most part 所以,相反,它只是有點跳過了,在大多數的部分 and gives you the option 並給你選擇 to use it more like a traditional mirrorless camera 更像傳統的無反光鏡相機一樣使用 with the Pro Camera app and the Cinema Pro video app. 與專業相機應用和Cinema Pro視頻應用。 The interface with the Pro Camera app 專業相機應用的界面 even looks a lot like Sony's big camera interface, see? 甚至看起來很像索尼的大相機界面,看到了嗎? Now also, I've got some photos, here's an example. 現在也是,我有一些照片,這是一個例子。 You can see that there's motion blur in this night photo. 你可以看到,這張夜景照片有運動模糊。 So what I did is I set the the ISO 所以,我做的是將ISO so that the shutter speed was slow enough 使得快門速度足夠慢 so that I could get the motion blur 這樣我就可以得到運動模糊 while still capturing the rest of the scene 同時還能捕捉到其餘的場景。 just like I wanted, like you might on a DSLR or whatever. 就像我想要的那樣,就像你在單反相機上一樣。 Your standard night modes on a Pixel or an iPhone, 你在Pixel或iPhone上的標準夜間模式。 they just won't do that. 他們只是不會這樣做。 And Sony even sort of tries 而索尼甚至有點嘗試 to make it feel like a real camera, 以使其感覺像一臺真正的相機。 you've got a real shutter button here 你這裡有一個真正的快門按鈕 and you can choose between the lenses 你可以在鏡頭之間選擇 by looking at their millimeter equivalents. 通過觀察它們的毫米當量。 Now look, I know you can probably get similar results 現在看,我知道你可能會得到類似的結果。 using a manual camera app and one of those other phones, 使用手動相機應用程序和其他那些手機之一。 but the other thing that Sony does here 但索尼在這裡做的另一件事 is less post-processing, 是較少的後處理。 because it's trying to maximize capture speed. 因為它想最大限度地提高捕捉速度。 So, again, you can shoot a 20 frames per second burst 所以,同樣,你可以拍攝每秒20幀的連拍。 and it wants to get that saved to your disk 它想把它保存到你的磁盤上。 as quickly as possible so you can just get that action shot. 儘快,這樣你就可以只得到那個動作鏡頭。 So when I was trying to figure out 所以當我想弄清楚 what I wanted to say about these cameras, 我想說的是這些相機。 Vjeran, who's editing this video and shooting the B roll, Vjeran,他在編輯這個視頻和拍攝B卷。 actually, say hi, Vjeran. 其實,打招呼,Vjeran。 - Hi. - 嗨,我的天 - Vjeran said something that struck me - Vjeran說了一句話,讓我印象深刻。 as both obvious and actually kind of profound. 作為既顯而易見,實際上又是一種深刻的。 Here, just tell them, Vjeran. 來,告訴他們,維傑蘭。 - Your overall approach to photography - 你對攝影的整體態度 changes depending on which camera you use. 根據您使用的相機而改變。 - Which, - 哪些。 duh. 咄。 Different cameras can do different things 不同的相機可以做不同的事情 and so you adjust your shooting style 所以你要調整你的拍攝風格 to those cameras' capabilities. 到這些相機的功能。 But also, 但也。 whoa, you're gonna be making different art. 哇,你會做不同的藝術。 The things you make are going to be different 你做的東西都會不一樣 based on the tool or, you know, 基於工具或,你知道, based on the instrument, that you're using. 基於你所使用的儀器,。 I've actually got a whole video 其實我已經得到了一個完整的視頻 about that tool versus instrument thing, 關於工具與工具的事情。 We'll link it down in the doobly-doos. 我們會在嘟嘟嘟裡把它鏈接下來。 So, for example, this shot that I'm using right now 所以,比如說,我現在用的這個鏡頭。 with the a7 III to shoot this video, 用a7 III來拍攝這段視頻。 it looks fine, but I think it looks pretty bad 它看起來很好,但我認為它看起來很糟糕。 when I try and replicate it with something like the ZV-1. 當我試圖用ZV-1這樣的東西來複制它時。 However, can't hold the a7 III out like this 不過,不能這樣拿著a7三代出來了。 for very long 'cause it's heavy. 很長的時間,因為它的沉重。 And then on top of that, however, 然後在這之上,但是。 I don't always have this camera or that camera with me 我並不總是帶著這個相機或那個相機。 and so this camera's with me all the time 所以這臺相機一直伴隨著我 and so I can make something else. 這樣我就可以做一些別的東西。 The music you make is different 你做的音樂是不一樣的 depending on what instruments you use. 取決於你使用的儀器。 Duh, but, the pictures you make 咄,但是,你做的圖片 depend on what kind of camera that you're using, 取決於你使用的是什麼類型的相機。 and it's not just a spectrum from good to bad, 而且它不只是一個從好到壞的光譜。 it's different kinds of pictures. 這是不同種類的圖片。 So, the thing about the Xperia 1 II 那麼,關於Xperia 1二代的事情。 is the kinds of pictures that it's good at 是它所擅長的圖片種類 are not the kinds of pictures that I want to take 不是我想拍的那種照片 with a phone, I mostly shoot my phone in full auto mode 用手機,我主要是用全自動模式拍攝手機。 and the full auto mode pictures 和全自動模式的圖片 out of the Xperia 1 II are good, 出的Xperia 1 II都不錯。 but they're not $1,200 good. 但他們不是1200美元的好。 And as much as I'm impressed 雖然我印象深刻 at how this thing can take action photos, 在這個東西怎麼能拍動作照片。 it's just not what I wanna do with a phone. 這不是我想用手機做的事情。 Which brings us all the way back 這讓我們回到了 to the advice from the beginning of this video. 的建議,從這個視頻的開始。 If all you want out of a new phone is better photos, 如果你想要的新手機是更好的照片。 you should maybe think about spending your money 你也許應該考慮一下你的錢 on a standalone camera instead of getting a new phone. 在一個獨立的攝像頭上,而不是買一個新的手機。 And, after living in Sony's camera world 而且,在索尼的相機世界裡生活了一段時間後。 for a while, I still think that's good advice 一時之間,我還覺得是個好建議 but a little bit differently now. 但現在有點不一樣了。 What I think you should be doing 我覺得你應該做的是 is spending more of your time 是花更多的時間 thinking about what kind of photos and videos 思考什麼樣的照片和視頻 you want to make first. 你想先做。 And then see what kind of gadget will help you make them. 再看看什麼樣的小工具能幫你做出來。 Hey, everybody, thank you so much for watching, 嘿,大家好,非常感謝大家的觀看。 I'm sorry I didn't get into all the details 很抱歉,我沒有說到所有的細節 like for example, this screen doesn't work 比如說,這個螢幕就不能用了 with polarized sunglasses, which is real dumb. 與偏光太陽鏡,這是真正的啞巴。 And this screen, they say it's like 而這個螢幕,他們說它就像 90 hertz equivalent refresh rate, 90赫茲等效刷新率。 but it's actually 60 and they do motion swiveling, 但它實際上是60,他們做運動旋轉。 which is weird but fine. 這是奇怪的,但罰款。 Anyway, we'll talk a little bit more about that stuff 總之,我們會多說一點關於這些東西的事 down in the comments, but I'm also, of course, 下的評論,但我也,當然。 gonna have full reviews, again, at theverge.com. 會有完整的評論, 再次,在theverge.com。
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