-What's up, man? A creative name, right?

-怎麼了，夥計？一個有創意的名字，對吧？

"The News." A lot of thought. -I love --

"新聞"我想了很多-我喜歡...

-How did you get the rights to just calling it "The News"?

-你怎麼會有權利只叫它 "新聞"？

It's genius. -Many focus groups, man.

這是個天才-許多焦點小組，男人。

Just, you know -- These things come if you take time.

只是，你知道... ... 如果你花時間，這些事情就會發生。

-Welcome to the NBC family.

-歡迎加入NBC大家庭。

We're excited to have you at the network.

我們很高興有你在網絡上。

You're at CNBC right now? -Yep.

你現在在CNBC？-是的

-You are the first interview not on Zoom

-你是第一個不在Zoom上的採訪

that I've done in six months since we've been in quarantine,

自從我們被隔離以來，我已經做了六個月。

so thank you for doing this.

所以，謝謝你這樣做。

This is really cool for me.

這對我來說真的很酷。

-I'm happy to do it.

-我很樂意這麼做

But back when you were in quarantine

但在你被隔離的時候

and your kids took over for The Roots,

和你的孩子們接管了根。

those were great shows, man.

這些都是偉大的節目，男人。

I loved those sitting at home in the box.

我喜歡那些坐在家裡的盒子裡。

That was a lot of fun. -Oh, I'm happy.

那真是太好玩了-哦，我很高興

Thank you. Yeah, they stole the show.

是啊，他們搶了我的風頭是啊，他們偷了節目。

I had to push them off a little bit.

我不得不把他們推掉一點。

They were getting too big-headed.

他們的腦袋太大。

I want to ask you about a couple things from over the weekend.

我想問你一些週末的事情。

Obviously "The Times" obtained Trump's tax information.

顯然，"時代週刊 "獲得了特朗普的稅務資訊。

Can you tell us about that and what is that news?

你能告訴我們，這是什麼消息嗎？

Explain the big takeaway there.

解釋一下那裡的大收穫。

-We haven't confirmed it at CNBC, but from the reporting,

-我們還沒有在CNBC證實，但從報道中得知，

I feel like what stuck out for me was

我覺得讓我印象深刻的是

he spent 70 grand on hair for television.

他花了7萬塊錢在電視的頭髮上。

I'm not sure that there was great value.

我不確定是否有很大的價值。

But, seriously, you know, 11 of the last 18 years,

但是，說真的，你知道，過去18年裡有11年是這樣的。

according to "The Times'" reporting,

據 "時報 "報道。

he didn't -- he avoided paying taxes at all.

他沒有... ... 他避免支付稅款的所有。

-Yeah.

-是的

-He had a lot more dealings with special-interest groups

-他和特殊利益集團打交道的次數更多了

in the United States and overseas

在美國和海外

than we knew before this reporting,

比我們在報道之前知道的還要多。

though there's nothing new on any Russian parts of it all.

雖然在俄羅斯的任何部分都沒有新的消息。

We know that Ivanka was receiving some consulting money

我們知道，伊萬卡是接受一些諮詢的錢。

that cut down on his taxes.

這減少了他的稅收。

And, you know, there was a lot of that sort of thing.

而且，你知道，有很多這樣的事情。

What does it all add up to?

這一切加起來是什麼？

I'm not sure it'll matter to his faithful.

我不知道這對他的忠實信徒是否有影響。

The Never Trumpers are still Never Trumpers.

永不搗蛋的人還是永不搗蛋的人。

And whether the people in the middle pay attention to that

而中間的人是否注意到這一點？

or not, I don't know.

或不，我不知道。

But "The Times" says there's more investigating coming

但 "時代週刊 "說，還有更多的調查要來了

and more reports, so we'll watch for it.

以及更多的報道，我們拭目以待。

-Yeah.

-是的

Well, obviously the sad news

很明顯，這是個壞消息

that Ruth Bader Ginsburg passed away.

露絲-巴德-金斯伯格去世的消息。

And over the weekend, Trump nominated conservative

而在上週末，特朗普提名保守派。

Amy Coney Barrett to the Supreme Court.

艾米-科尼-巴雷特進入最高法院。

And he says that he wants her to be confirmed

他還說他想讓她得到確認。

before the election.

在選舉前。

Do you think that's going to happen?

你覺得會發生嗎？

-It could. They say it's going to happen,

-有可能他們說會發生的

that they can make it happen in that amount of time.

他們能在這麼短的時間內做到這一點。

She's the darling of conservatives.

她是保守派的寵兒。

The evangelical crew loves her.

福音派的人都喜歡她。

He wants -- He's been talking from the very beginning

他想... ... 他從一開始就在說...

about how judges will be his legacy.

關於法官將如何成為他的遺產。

And whether it'll affect the election or not,

以及是否會影響選舉。

it probably will.

它可能會。

You just don't know which way it's going to play, Jimmy.

你只是不知道它的方向，吉米。

You know, will conservatives be so happy about it

你知道，保守派會不會很高興？

that they come out and vote for more

他們出來投票支持更多的

or will Democrats and people on the left say,

還是會有民主黨人和左派人士說。

"We can't let this happen again,"

"我們不能讓這種情況再次發生"。

and come out and vote in bigger numbers?

並出來投票的人數更多？

I don't think we'll know till we know.

我不認為我們會知道，直到我們知道。

-Yeah. Trump is now questioning the election --

-是的特朗普現在質疑選舉 -

the validity of the election should he lose.

如果他輸了，選舉的有效性。

-Well, of this, I'm certain.

-這一點，我很確定。

There is nothing to indicate

沒有任何跡象表明

that there's widespread voter fraud

有廣泛的選民欺騙

on a local level or on the national level.

在地方一級或國家一級。

That's reportable, and that's factual.

這是可以舉報的，也是事實。

The rest of it, I'm not exactly sure

其餘的，我不太清楚。

what it is he's trying to accomplish.

他想達到的目的是什麼。

Because there is no evidence of that.

因為沒有證據。

I'm sure that there's some thinking

我相信這裡面一定有一些思考。

that if it doesn't go well maybe he'll be able to point to that.

如果不順利的話，也許他就能指出這一點。

He made these same sorts of accusations

他提出了同樣的指責

before the last election regarding Hillary Clinton.

上次選舉前，關於希拉里-克林頓。

So sometimes you have to just watch what's happening

所以，有時候你必須要看清事情的真相

and listen to what they're saying just a little bit less.

並聽他們在說什麼 只是少了一點。

Not just the President, but most of them, Jimmy.

不僅僅是總統，而是大多數人，吉米。

-Yeah. Maybe he's just trying to hype up his base and be like,

-是啊。是啊。 也許他只是想炒作 他的基礎，是這樣的，

"Yeah, it's going to be rigged, so you better get out there

"是啊，要被人操縱了，你最好快去吧

and vote because it's going to be rigged,

並投票，因為它將被操縱。

and if we just win by a landslide,

如果我們只是贏得了壓倒性的優勢，

then we won't have to have this conversation."

那我們就不用再談這個話題了。"

-And, also, "If I don't win, here might be the reason."

-還有，"如果我沒贏，原因可能是這樣的"

He's managed expectations in this way

他是這樣管理預期的

throughout his business career.

在他的商業生涯中，。

You wonder if maybe he's taking a page from that now.

你會想，也許他現在正從那件事中吸取教訓。

I don't know.

我不知道。

-The first presidential debate is tomorrow night.

-第一場總統辯論將於明晚舉行。

It is going to be moderated by your former

它將由你的前輩主持。

Fox News colleague Chris Wallace.

福克斯新聞的同事克里斯-華萊士。

What do you expect to see in the debate tomorrow night?

你希望明晚的辯論會看到什麼？

What should we expect?

我們應該期待什麼？

-I expect Chris Wallace to be prepared.

我希望克里斯-華萊士能做好準備。

Nobody who has watched Chris Wallace

沒有人看過克里斯-華萊士

thinks other than that he's a very tough,

認為除此之外，他是一個非常強硬。

very thoroughly prepared journalist.

非常徹底的記者準備。

And he's said repeatedly over the years,

這些年他也多次說過。

to me and publicly,

對我和公開。

"My job is to stay out of the way

"我的工作就是不礙事

and be unnoticed as much as possible."

並儘可能不被人注意。"

But he's not one to let a falsehood or a misrepresentation

但是，他不是一個人，讓一個虛假的或錯誤的陳述。

or a "look over here" kind of shiny object thing

或者是 "看這裡 "之類的閃閃發光的東西。

just slide by the way.

只是順便滑動。

He will hold them. Both of them.

他會抱著他們。兩個人都會。

He's not a partisan guy. He's searching for truth.

他不是一個黨派的傢伙。他在尋找真相。

He's trying to speak truth to power

他是想以事實說話，以權謀私

and trying to get information to the public.

並試圖向公眾提供資訊。

That's what all journalists want to do.

這是所有記者都想做的。

It's not about Chris.

這不是關於克里斯。

He'll be the first to tell you that.

他會是第一個告訴你的。

It's about finding out what they are really about.

就是要找出他們的真實身份。

-That's a good segue into your new show.

-這是你新節目的一個很好的開場白。

You certainly couldn't have picked a more critical time

你肯定不能選擇一個更關鍵的時間。

in our nation's history to start your new show.

在我們國家的歷史上，開始你的新節目。

There's so much news to cover.

有這麼多新聞要報道。

Tell us about "The News with Shepard Smith."

告訴我們關於 "謝帕德-史密斯的新聞"。

-It'll be that simple. It'll be the news.

-就這麼簡單就這麼簡單.

We're not going to have pundits. We're not going to have opinion.

我們不會有專家。我們不會有意見。

We'll bring you facts. The facts, the truth, the news.

我們會給你帶來事實。事實，真相，新聞。

We'll try to bring it to you in context and with perspective.

我們會盡量把它的背景和觀點帶給你。

When we see things that are not true, like that shiny object

當我們看到一些不真實的東西，就像那個閃閃發光的東西一樣。

I was talking about, we'll point that out.

我說的是，我們會指出來的。

And we'll cut through the disinformation.

而我們將切斷虛假資訊。

Jimmy, there's so much of it. It's all over our feeds.

吉米，有這麼多的它。這一切都在我們的飼料。

Sometimes people live in a world of just lies.

有時候，人們生活在一個只有謊言的世界裡。

And when that's happening

而當這種情況發生時

and it rises to the public discourse, we'll point it out.

並上升到公共話語權，我們會指出它。

Look, there was a time when all newscasts

你看，有一段時間，當所有的新聞播報。

or most of them were just,

或者說大部分人都只是。

"Here are the facts, so you can decide for yourself.

"這裡是事實，你可以自己決定。

Here's what's happening in the world

下面是世界上發生的事情。

so you can plan for your family

好讓你為家庭打算

and your business and your community and your church."

和你的業務和你的社區和你的教會。"

That's what we want to do.

這就是我們要做的。

We want to be a source of truth and honesty,

我們希望成為真理和誠實的來源。

and we'll hold truth to power because that is our job.

我們將堅持真理的力量，因為這是我們的工作。

The founding fathers didn't only put journalism

開國元勳們不僅把新聞業

in the Constitution for no reason.

在憲法中無緣無故。

They put it there because it's important,

他們把它放在那裡是因為它很重要。

and journalists have a responsibility to get it right

而記者有責任把它做對。

and tell it straight, and that's what we're going to do.

並直言不諱，這就是我們要做的。

-It premiers this Wednesday at 7:00 p.m.

-本週三晚上7點首映。

You're going to be on every night.

你每天晚上都要上。

Congrats on this and good luck with the new show.

恭喜你，祝你新節目好運。

I'll be watching.

我會注意的

-Thank you, Jimmy. Really appreciate it.

-謝謝你，吉米謝謝你，吉米 -真的很感激

-Thanks again for coming on the show. Stay safe, please.

-再次感謝你來參加節目。請注意安全

Shepard Smith, everybody. "The News with Shepard Smith"

謝潑德-史密斯，各位。"謝潑德-史密斯的新聞"

premiers this Wednesday at 7:00 p.m. on CNBC.

本週三晚上7點在CNBC首播。

Set your DVRs.

設置你的DVRs。