Do you think that was just bound to happen?

Listen, if you think about it, if you have 100 people who all

come out at the same time, if only one of those people

is a troublemaker, is a paid provocateur,

is somebody who wants to do something negative,

or just some local knucklehead, troublemaker,

something bad can happen.

Well, as you start adding numbers,

you go from 100, to 1,000, to 50,000

across the country, 100,000 people,

you're going to have a larger number of people

who are doing stuff like that.

Unfortunately, we then focus on that.

What I think is so sad is we're missing the common ground.

You know what the common ground is?

Nobody likes lawlessness.

We don't like lawlessness in police departments.

That's what the protests are about,

it's lawlessness, police failing to obey the law in police

departments, which then creates lawlessness

in the streets in response.

So there's no pro-riot caucus in the black community.

There's no there's no pro-crime caucus.

Nobody wants peaceful streets more than black people,

trust me.

I'm trying to raise two black boys here in Los Angeles.

I'm not for riots.

But if you want to hold young people to high standards

out there in the streets--

and I do every day--

you should also hold older people,

especially older people in uniform,

to even higher standards.

And if you just stay consistent, we're consistent,

we want lawful behavior, and we don't

care if you're wearing your blue jeans and a t-shirt

or if you're wearing a blue uniform,

we want lawful behavior, then there's common ground.

The problem is, when you start saying,

well, I'm no longer going to talk

about the lawlessness in the police departments

because I'm so mad at the people who are throwing bricks,

it is unfair to the black community.

There are 40 million African-Americans, 40 million.

0.000000001% have thrown a brick.

Why should the rest of us have our pain and our fear

as parents completely erased because

of what a tiny, tiny rounding error of people are doing?

And frankly, many of them have white and other people

alongside of them.

Some of them may be provocateurs.

So let's not let the disturbances

disturb our equilibrium.

There is common ground against lawlessness,

starting with police departments.

There's a way out of this.

But we've got to be able to keep our eye on the prize.

Listen, there's three things, very simple.

What can we do?

What can we do?

It's very simple.

The solution stack is so simple.

Jail the four cops who were involved.

Jail them.

Charge them.

Maybe they can get off in a jury trial.

But at least arrest them.

Number two, bipartisan police reform legislation

to ban chokeholds and have excessive force, a standard

that make some sense.

And number three, surge some economic support

into these communities that have been suffering all this time.

And this whole thing will be over.

It could be done in a week.

Yeah, I mean, we have to take a break.

But I mean, I don't know by the time

this airs Thursday if they will have been arrested.

But the fact that it's taken this long--

and I know they're trying to find a solid case--

they don't wait for a young black boy or man

to be a strong case before they arrest them,

much less kill them.

They don't wait 10 seconds.

No, they don't wait at all.

So this should have happened day one.

And then they just arrest the guy

that was sitting on his head with his hands in his pocket.

But they don't arrest the other three

who are complicit-- just, anyway,

we're going to take a break.

Makes me mad.

We'll be back.

We're back with the host of CNN's is

The Van Jones Show, Van Jones.

Good thing you got cast in that.

Because that's a good--

it's Van Jones, and that's your name.

So tWitch, what were you saying just now to Van?

That everybody needs to hear what he just said,

from front and back.

Because with all of the emotion that's

going on surrounding what's happening in the streets

as far as rioting, and looting, and protesting, which one is

which, which one is better, and what should stop, and why,

what you just spoke about as far as common ground

needs to be heard the way that you just said it.

And also, because the way that you said it,

it was uninterrupted.

There was nothing to argue against,

which is what's happening in a lot of the comment sections.

When people try to voice our concern,

people come back with a counter argument and things like that.

But the way that you just put that, I mean, to me, it was it

was perfect.

There's no way that anyone can argue--

well, anyone with sense, I'm sorry--

could argue what you just said.

And I feel like the world needs to hear that.

Because it is.

It is common ground that we need to hear right now.

And, bro, I give it up to you.

Because that was said perfectly.

That was said perfectly.

Thank you, brother.

Thank you.

Absolutely.

Yeah, I think that was a really great show that we

had Mayor Keisha and Van on.

Because I think, as I said in the beginning of the show,

I'm going to do everything I can to educate myself.

And I want to help other people learn from watching the show,

and how they can do the same, and be better people,

and be better allies.

Tell me, what is just a couple of things

that people watching can do?

Look, everybody should watch this documentary

called The 13th.

It's about the 13th amendment and the way

that the prison system has been built up.

There's a book called The New Jim Crow.

I encourage everybody to read that.

And there's a book called White Fragility, White Fragility.

And it just talks about why it's so hard for white people

to talk about race and racial issues.

And when you understand what's going on in your mind

when these things come up, it's so much easier to learn.

So those three sources, I think, are great.

Yeah, Ava DuVernay, and also I just ordered that book.

Because I was watching tWitch speak about it.

So I ordered a few books that tWitch recommended.

We'll post those on our website, some more books

that people can read to help.

Van will be hosting a CNN and Sesame Street town

hall called Coming Together Standing Up

to Racism this Saturday at 10:00 AM eastern on CNN.

Van, thank you so much.

Come back anytime.

Thanks for everything.

Thank you.

Appreciate being here.

We'll get through this.

All right, we'll be back.