And when guys like Bob Knight and James Worthy or calling and Magic Johnson are calling Jordan the greatest ever before, he actually done anything.

I love Marcus.

He's one of my best friends.

I cannot let a person who I think is that smart.

Say something that stupid anymore, so I have to fight him on it.

Go ahead, Swagger.

And then I'm told J Will is ready.

We'll keep you guys.

Go ahead.

Markets.

Do you know what my initial thought was My initial thought watching that last night when Dan takes me Waas I couldn't see why everybody says Michael Jordan's the Goat because it's the first time that the NBA had seen that type of athleticism, that type of fire and the skill set like that.

I just don't think it's uncommon anymore.

I think that's the first time the MBA has seen LeBron James as well in his makeup.

So there will be stories told like I responded today and last night about LeBron in the same way, and our kids will say the same thing.

How can somebody watch this and say LeBron James is not the best basketball player ever.

I just happened to be way ahead of the curve.

I got ultimate respect, and by the way, I hold a lot of Jordan's before I owned Ah, 100 pair of Jordans.

So I have respect and it's not to put them Jay in a negative light.

You can't when it comes to basketball.

I'm just partial.

And my preference is to think that LeBron James is the go out of your basketball.

I'm not backing down from that.

I don't give a damn what nobody say.

You know what's interesting is that at some point in life, we all become our fathers, and this is that moment for me.

What I'm trying to express to anyone listening to this conversation is that if you didn't see Michael Jordan play, I can't explain it to you any other way, except you can't do anything better.

Then he played basketball, and this is in no way to take away from LeBron James.

And look that the downside of these kinds of arguments, which took place on my Twitter page in my absence yesterday when I just harmlessly tweeted, I'm seeing the documentary, you're gonna love it and in my mind.

It proves Michael is the greatest player of all time, and 14,000 people started arguing about it almost immediately thereafter.

Mike, my credentials as a LeBron fan are intact.

He's on my Mount Rushmore.

I'd consider him the fourth graders player that ever lived, but Michael Jordan is number one.

When Michael Jordan was doing it in the way he did, it might not have been a whole lot of fun, right?

Does that sort of seem like an appropriate way of looking at what you were saying?

What is it they say in the National Football League?

About what it's like playing for the Patriots, playing for Bill Belichick and playing with Tom Brady?

Not fun, right?

So the point I'm making is winning is not fun.

So if your primary focus is winning than your primary focus is not fun, it's not who's feeling good today.

It's not whose feelings might be hurt by what I'm about to do.

It's either do what I'm telling you to do in practice, or I'm gonna punch you in the face, which he literally did to a teammate in practice.

Who now, by the way, is the coach of the Golden State Warriors.

So, markets What I'm trying to tell you is I get what you're saying.

But Michael Jordan at the end of the day was about results, and no one has ever had in the modern era has had the results that he had way continue to have this conversation, and we go continue to go in circles and you know how much I love you and Dan.

But there are so many arguments to be made with this whole leadership conversation.

So many are arguments to be made about championships, so many arguments to be made about the right situations.

When guys coming into the league.

Listen, here's here's for America because my Twitter timeline is a beast right now.

Here's for America wives.

In my mind, LeBron James is the goal and why I'm not changing it.

Let me say that again.

I am not changing my mind about LeBron being the greatest basketball player ever.

Okay, that's it.

18 years old, weight in the world on his shoulders.

Nobody even watched Cleveland breakfast.

Cleveland Cavaliers played basketball when the brain came, they did into the toe.

Yeah, I'm leaving that.

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