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  • This record is really

  • So close to my heart and so emotional

  • But as far as it being the gloomiest record

  • I

  • Think I've written some pretty depressing records before this one

  • I think strange mercy might be take the cake on gloom

  • But um, but with this record, I really just wanted to write songs that spoke to the heart

  • you know spoke to my heart and

  • Made me feel something

  • Jack Antonoff was someone who was in my peripheral vision for a long time

  • And I always had this sense that he was like a really nice guy. He had a great, you know reputation

  • But I never really knew him until we sat down and

  • Had dinner and talked about this album and more than that. We just kind of talked about

  • Everything that was going wrong in each other's lives at that time. We just like

  • bonded in such a

  • heavy way very quickly and I just knew that he was the right person to work with because he was so

  • you know thoughtful and energetic and sympathetic and the

  • ultimate cheerleader, I think the great thing about music is that you

  • can put something out it can mean one specific thing to you and then other people hear it and

  • They look at it

  • With it in a totally different light and put all of their life experience and all of their emotional

  • states and you know baggage or all all the things and they put it on to the song if the song resonates with them and

  • so

  • The great thing about is a song is that it really ceases to be about the writer of the song

  • after it's in the world and

  • It's about every other person's experience with the music

  • so I write from a place of

  • I don't I don't think you can write things you don't

  • Know but they but it doesn't have to be literal

  • You can know something emotionally and a lot of times in songs

  • You find out what you think or how you feel about something just in the process of

  • Following this thread, you know

  • Over a number of months you you follow it and then you look back and go. Oh

  • That's how I feel. That's that's where I was. Wow, you know, I didn't realize it at the time exactly. I

  • Think for a long time because my primary instrument was guitar. It was the first it's my first love as a musician. I

  • Think that I was in some ways just trying to

  • Figure out. Okay. What's the lane that hasn't quite been

  • explored because I don't I don't want to do what would be

  • natural to me as

  • You know an early guitar player which was you know

  • as a guitar player you learn all these scales and kind of everybody can kind of play like a

  • half-bad blues, you know and I just didn't I

  • I was trying to find something that

  • Would excite me and and wouldn't make me feel like oh, I'm just doing something super cliche

  • And so the the genesis of kind of exploring was was a desire not to

  • Play bad blues, but the it just kind of bloomed into this other

  • lots of different kinds of sounds and now I I mean, I love the sound of a guitar like, you know,

  • It's just very different so

  • yeah, I

  • luckily because of technology and you know if you're techie or

  • Pedal nerd you know, you can make a guitar really sound like anything

  • my mom used to have a

  • Used to sing as a song those like we girls can do anything

  • and I think of us to the tune of Barbie the Barbie theme song it was his a

  • a

  • wonderful subversion, but

  • And you know I have just strong was surrounded by strong women and

  • Again it would

  • It was it was a funny. It was a funny kind of thing

  • you know being raised a certain way with a certain set of like obviously girls could do anything boys can do and

  • Then kind of going out into the world and then being that confronted with

  • how people think I don't think differently then that they're crazy cuz

  • We're gonna get some shit done, you know the fact that I had people in my life. Who were

  • Very close and who were doing the thing that I wanted to do just made it?

  • It made me go. Oh, this is possible. I didn't come from a family. That was that said like you want to be a musician

  • No way get back to accounting school

  • or or whatever

  • it was I I was lucky enough to to be supported in that because you know, my uncle's a genius guitar player and

  • he's made his whole life playing music and

  • so they they showed me what it was kind of really like on the road and

  • they

  • Really taught me how to work

  • and they taught me that I

  • need to be able to

  • In some ways do everything

  • Need to know the technical stuff. I need to know, you know be as excellent as possible the musical stuff

  • and I need to

  • Have this or they baked into me this sort of extreme

  • Reverence for music as like that. It's just this transformative and transcendent

  • Holy

  • Force my friend and I have a saying and just it's like

  • Creators create, you know, I was at a museum once in Lausanne Switzerland and and there was a

  • woman who had been sent to the insane asylum and her final her dream in life was that she wanted to get married and so

  • She created an entire wedding dress out of

  • Toilet paper and spit and it was the most beautiful thing you've ever seen so

  • Creators create if people have an irresistible urge to make something no matter where they are. They're gonna find a way

  • To build it, you know make it and and and that's really the thing that drives me

  • The most is a desire to just make things

  • just want to make things and

  • and and hopefully make great things and and

  • You know play shows that

  • people

  • May like or dislike, but they won't forget. I

  • Love Texas, I

  • love, Texas and I love Texans and

  • There was a period where you know

  • I kind of I felt like I needed to get out of here in my youth

  • you know when I was 18 I left and went to the East Coast and

  • and

  • it's sort of like I always think of the metaphor like, you know, when kids grow up and they're

  • So excited about Halloween and the next thing you know

  • They're like teenagers and they're like hallowee-- and that was so stupid and they were but they were just doing Halloween the year

  • you know a year ago and then they get a little bit older and they feel no longer threatened by the idea of

  • Who they were they're just like hey, it's Halloween

  • We're dressing up and having fun again that was sort of the trajectory of me in Texas. Like I left kind of go cool

  • I'm gonna do it

  • it's this and that it uh

  • and as I've gotten older and spent more time away from it and then

  • had texts and friends all over the world and

  • and

  • You know have a really strong relationship with my family. I'm just like I

  • Love this place. Well the essence of performance to me

  • Is that people are coming?

  • To see you play, right? They're not if they wanted to just listen to you

  • they would stay home with the record, but they're coming because they want to have an experience and

  • they want to

  • get taken to another place for an hour and a half and they want to

  • suspend their disbelief

  • That's what I want when I go see a show

  • And so I spend a lot of time. Just trying to make a

  • show that that does all those things that

  • is

  • okay, but everybody let's gather around this campfire and then just like

  • teleport into another dimension

  • for as long as we have together and then you know

  • Come back to Earth in a different state than we left it

This record is really

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