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  • -I do find it very, at a nice time, to consume art.

  • Uh, that someone has worked on and finished.

  • So, uh, it must be nice to have a book out now

  • that people can turn to in these times.

  • This is a book about Asian-American immigrants.

  • Obviously, in general over the last few years,

  • I feel as though we've been talking about

  • and reconsidering exactly the plight of what

  • immigrants go through in this country.

  • Do you feel like your came out at an opportune time,

  • in that, people's minds are open to sort of understanding

  • what life immigrants in this country live?

  • -Mm-hmm. You know what's really interesting is I started

  • writing this book in early 2015, so this is not only

  • before coronavirus, but also before the 2016 elections.

  • And I remember finishing this book and wondering, like,

  • "Is it too mod-lit?

  • Is it too histrionic in it's depiction of racism,

  • And naked racism against Asian people?

  • And, yeah, now we're living in this time.

  • And it is, sadly, more relevant than ever.

  • But, I guess, it sort of, like, goes along with this

  • life-long obsession I've really had.

  • You know, I came here as an immigrant.

  • And my parents were immigrants.

  • And it really took me 20-some years to sort of realize that

  • we are living with this myth of the American dream.

  • And it really, really, truly is a myth.

  • This idea that anyone who works hard enough

  • can have success in this country.

  • And, it's just not true, because there's so many

  • systemic barriers in place.

  • And, you know, I think that's always been the sort of

  • unfairness of that, has always been more visible to immigrants

  • and to people of color.

  • But, I think we're all seeing it now.

  • With this sort of like [Chuckles] other countries'

  • response to the epidemic and how many people's lives are,

  • are very fragile right now.

  • -You also, you know this book takes place in the American ra--

  • American West, excuse me.

  • Obviously, that seems to be a part of the country

  • that you have a connection to.

  • When did you first find your way out West?

  • -Um, my family moved from Kentucky,

  • which was the first place that we lived in, in America,

  • out to California, when I was about eight.

  • So that whole journey, we took it in a car over several days.

  • Uh, it really made an impression on me.

  • There's just something really beautiful and epic

  • about this part of the world.

  • -And I think that's really one of the lovely things

  • about the book, is it's very honest about parts of

  • the American myths that aren't real, but also,

  • it is a very sort of loving beautiful book

  • about this country.

  • And it must be nice, in the writing,

  • balancing both of those in order to tell a story.

  • -Yeah, yeah. I do hope that that love comes through.

  • I think that it's interesting that you can have

  • this deep connection and affection for a country,

  • even as it is difficult to live here sometimes.

  • -Uh, I want to finish, because one thing

  • that, you know, I certainly keep reading about is how

  • independent bookstores are having a hard time,

  • you know, when their doors are closed.

  • And people can't come in.

  • And I think that is a location, more than ever,

  • that people go actually walk in, and peruse and find books.

  • Are there any ways, any independent bookstores

  • you'd like to shout out, now if people want to get your book?

  • -Yes, absolutely! So my favorite in San Francisco are

  • Green Apple Books, Booksmith, and Dog Eared Books.

  • And they're all really wonderful places where,

  • I think you can order online or just call them

  • and in some cases have them shipped to you.

  • -That's excellent. Hey, thank you so much.

  • Congratulations on the book.

  • And thanks so much for making time with us today.

  • -Thank you, Seth. Bye. -Bye.

-I do find it very, at a nice time, to consume art.

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C 張柏芝的首部小說讓人看到了移民的生活。 (C Pam Zhang's Debut Novel Gives a Glimpse into Immigrant Lives)

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