字幕列表 影片播放 列印英文字幕 -Our next guest is an author whose debut novel, "How Much of These Hills Is Gold," is currently available. Please welcome C Pam Zhang. Thank you so much for being here. -Hi, Seth. Thank you so much for having me. -So where are you right now? -I'm living in San Francisco right now. -So I've talked to some other authors during this time. Obviously, it's really exciting to have a book like yours come out, and usually you would be doing a book tour. You are still managing to pull it off by doing a virtual -- I guess you would say virtual events. How has that been? -You know, it's actually been really lovely because I think I, like many authors, don't actually like being in the limelight. So now, you know, only half of my body has to be in the limelight, for one. And it sort of gets rid of the one thing that I least like about in-person events, which is the question of, like, where do you look when someone is, like, facedown reading out of their book? So it's actually been nice in that way, and I've had friends dial in from places where they ordinarily wouldn't have been able to see me. -Is it true that this is a story that you never intended to be a novel? -Oh, absolutely. So I wrote the first chapter of this book as a short story first. And I really tried as hard as I could to not make it into a novel, because who wants to write a novel? It just is such an arduous and backbreaking task. But it was the situation where I put the story away for a few months, and the characters just kept showing up in my head. And at last I was like, "Well, to get rid of you, to exorcise you, in a way, I suppose I just have to write the rest of your story." -I'm always fascinated by writers' processes. Yours is not to write in a specific place or to write at a specific time. But one of the things I've heard about you is that you like to wait almost until the last minute. Like, you like to think about it a lot before you write. -"Thinking" is a little bit generous. It's more subconscious and less, like -- you know, less thorough than that. But I think that one thing that I've been really interested in in the last few years is sort of divesting from this cult of productivity that I think we all live under. And, you know, it makes sense if you're working a day job, which I do. But it isn't really a sort of format that applies to art. I think for art, you do kind of have to wait for the inspiration to strike. You have to let all these, like, feelings sort of simmer and build up inside you. -I imagine that a lot of authors right now feel this burden of, "Oh, my gosh, there's this time that I can use right now to write." Do you feel a little relief that you have to promote writing you've already finished as opposed to -- Like, even I'm thinking, "Oh, all these things I've wanted to write. Now that, you know, I'm at home, I should get it done," and, of course, it's impossible. -Right, there is definitely that expectation of people. But, yeah, I just want to push back on that. I just don't think this is the time -- I mean, everyone is sort of in some stage of grief. Everyone is worried. You have so much anxiety. That isn't the place where art is going to come from.