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  • >> Stephen: HEY, EVERYBODY, WELCOME BACK TO "A LATE SHOW."

  • MY GUEST TONIGHT HAS BEEN IN OVER 100 MOVIES.

  • AND THE YOU KNOW THEM, BECAUSE HE IS ROBERT DE NIRO.

  • HEY!

  • >> HI, HOW ARE YOU?

  • >> Stephen: THERE'S THE MAN RIGHT THERE?

  • SPEAK OF THE DEVIL, AND ANGEL HEART APPEARS.

  • ( LAUGHTER ) LOUIE CIPHER HIMSELF.

  • YOU'RE LOOKING VERY DISTINGUISHED.

  • >> WELL, YEAH, I-- THAT'S-- YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO

  • DO.

  • >> Stephen: TRYING TO GO FOR...

  • >> HERE I AM, THE FIREPLACE BEHIND ME, AND THE MANTEL AND,

  • YOU KNOW, THE COUPLE OF BOOKS AND...

  • >> Stephen: I GOTTA SAY, YOU MAKE IT LOOK GOOD.

  • >> WELL, YOU KNOW, I TRY.

  • >> Stephen: SO ARE YOU-- ARE YOU STAYING ACTIVE?

  • ARE YOU INSIDE ALL THE TIME?

  • ARE YOU GETTING OUT?

  • >> YEAH, I'M TRYING TO DO STUFF.

  • READ SCRIPTS, ON THE PHONE.

  • I JUST-- WORK OUT.

  • STAY-- TRY AND STAY ALIVE, YOU KNOW.

  • >> Stephen: THAT IS-- THAT IS-- THAT IS THE GOAL OF ALL OF

  • US RIGHT NOW.

  • >> YES.

  • >> Stephen: TRY TO STAY ALIVE.

  • WHAT'S YOUR WORKOUT.

  • DO YOU EVEN LIST, BRO?

  • >> I LIFT.

  • JUST KEEP THE BONES STRONG.

  • >> Stephen: OKAY.

  • >> IT'S NOT LIKE I LIKE LIFTING FOR THE SAKE OF LIFTING, BUT IT

  • KEEPS YOUR BONE MASS STRONG.

  • AND CARDIOAND THE USUAL.

  • TREADMILL.

  • SO ON.

  • >> Stephen: ARE YOU-- ARE YOU DOING CHIN-UPS, PULL-UPS, THAT

  • KINDS OF STUFF?

  • >> I DO THAT, TOO, YES.

  • >> Stephen: I HAVE THE IMAGE OF YOU AT THE BEGINNING OF "CAPE

  • FEAR" IN MY HEAD.

  • >> YEAH, I WISH I LOOKED THE WAY I DID THEN, BECAUSE I'M A LITTLE

  • OLDER NOW.

  • BUT I STILL CAN MANAGE.

  • >> Stephen: WHEN THIS IS ALL OVER, CLEARLY, THERE'S GOING TO

  • BE A MOVIE ABOUT THIS.

  • >> YES.

  • >> Stephen: IF THERE ARE EVER MOVIES AGAIN, THERE WILL BE A

  • MOVIE ABOUT THIS.

  • WHO DO YOU WANT TO PLAY?

  • CAN'T SAY FAUCI BECAUSE FAUCI HAS ALREADY BEEN TAKEN BY BRAD

  • PITT.

  • >> YEAH, YES, HE -- >> Stephen: CUOMO?

  • >> I GUESS I'LL PLAY CUOMO.

  • I LIKE -- >> Stephen: IT'S A GOOD PART.

  • >> YEAH, HE'S-- HE'S-- HE'S DOING WHAT-- WHAT A PRESIDENT

  • SHOULD DO.

  • >> Stephen: CAN YOU SEE PRESIDENT CUOMO?

  • YOU CAN SEE THAT?

  • >> I COULD SEE THAT.

  • YES, I COULD SEE IT.

  • I THINK... THOUGH, I'M FOR BIDEN AND I WANT EVERYTHING TO GO WELL

  • WITH BIDEN, YOU KNOW BUT AT LEAST... WE HAVE A... A PERSON

  • WHO IS VERY CAPABLE, A VERY CAPABLE BACKUM, IF YOU WILL--

  • NOT VICE PRESIDENT, BUT IF HE...

  • SOMETHING WOULD CHANGE, WHICH GOD FORBID NOTHING WILL CHANGE,

  • HE WOULD BE A-- HE'S DOING A GREAT JOB.

  • HE'S DOING WHAT ANY PRESIDENT SHOULD DO.

  • >> Stephen: YEAH.

  • YEAH.

  • AND-- AND WHAT NEW YORK DESERVES.

  • WHAT THE WORLD DESERVES.

  • BUT IT'S-- HE SEEMS LIKE A VERY-- LIKE, HE'S A REAL NEW

  • YORK GOVERNOR.

  • >> SURE, HE IS, YEAH, YEAH.

  • >> Stephen: YOU-- YOU-- NEW YORK HAS BEEN THROUGH 9/11, AND

  • HURRICANE SANDY.

  • AND I KNOW THAT YOU AND-- AND YOUR CHARITABLE OUTREACHES, AND

  • THE TRIBECA FILM FESTIVAL, ALL OF THOSE WERE ATTEMPTS TO

  • RESPOND TO THE CRISES THAT NEW YORK HAS GONE THROUGH.

  • WHAT DO YOU THINK-- WHAT LESSONS DO YOU THINK NEW YORK HAS

  • LEARNED FROM THOSE FNTSZ THAT CAN APPLY TO THIS RIGHT NOW?

  • >> WELL, THEY'RE-- THEY'RE DISASTROUS.

  • THEY WERE DISASTROUS SITUATIONS OF DIFFERENT-- OF DIFFERENT

  • SORT, OBVIOUSLY.

  • AND TERRIBLE THINGS THAT HAPPENED.

  • BUT AS CUOMO IS SAYING, YOU LEARN FROM THOSE EXPERIENCES AND

  • HOW TO HANDLE IT, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS A DIFFERENT ONE, THEY'RE

  • ALL DIFFERENT, BUT THERE'S SOME COMMON THINGS THAT YOU CAN USE

  • FOR THIS... I DON'T KNOW-- THIS IS... A NATIONAL TRAGEDY.

  • IT'S A NATIONAL -- >> Stephen: IT'S A GLOBAL

  • TRAGEDY.

  • >> GLOBAL, YEAH.

  • BUT THERE ARE-- AS HE SAYS, NEW YORKERS WILL GET THROUGH IT.

  • AND, OF COURSE, WE WILL.

  • AND PANDEMICS HAVE BEEN IN THE WORLD BEFORE, AND PEOPLE

  • SURVIVED THEM.

  • WE, OF COURSE, COULD HAVE SURVIVED THIS MUCH BETTER IF...

  • IDIOT HAD DONE THE RIGHT THING AND LISTENED AND HEEDED ALL THE

  • WARNINGS.

  • THERE WERE MANY, MANY WARNINGS.

  • AND WE'RE ALL PAYING FOR IT NOW.

  • IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BAD MAYBE IN SOME WAYS, BUT NEVER LIKE THIS.

  • >> Stephen: WELL, I NEVER THOUGHT THE UNITED STATES WOULD

  • BE THE COUNTRY THAT WOULD RESPOND THE SLOWEST.

  • >> YES.

  • >> Stephen: I THOUGHT THAT WE, BEING THE MEDICAL LEADERS OF THE

  • WORLD, SCIENTIFIC LEADERS OF THE WORLD, WOULD ACTUALLY TAKE IT

  • MORE SERIOUSLY, AND THAT OUR LEADERS WOULD ACTUALLY FOLLOW

  • THE GUIDANCE OF THE SCIENCE AND MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS TO

  • ACTUALLY TAKE THIS SERIOUS FROM THE BEGINNING.

  • >> OF COURSE.

  • I MEAN, THAT'S-- THAT'S WHAT'S TO BE EXPECTED.

  • AND NOTHING, NOTHING.

  • IT'S... IT'S APPALLING.

  • IT'S APPALLING.

  • >> Stephen: AND NOW THE IDEA THAT, YES, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT

  • OF A CAVALIER ATTITUDE TOWARD THE GOVERNMENT NOW ABOUT, WELL,

  • YES, PEOPLE WILL DIE, BUT WE HAVE TO GET THE ECONOMY BACK.

  • AND THAT'S A LEGITIMATE-- THAT'S A LEGITIMATE CONCERN.

  • PEOPLE NEED THEIR JOBS, AND PEOPLE NEED THE FREEDOM OF

  • MOVEMENT.

  • BUT I FEEL LIKE THE PRESIDENT ISN'T TAKING IT SERIOUSLY

  • ENOUGH.

  • >> NO, NO-- WELL, AGAIN WE ALL A HEAR THIS.

  • EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT HIS GAME IS.

  • IT'S ALL ABOUT HIM GETTING RE-ELECTED.

  • YOU SAW IT DOWN IN ATLANTA, AT THE C.D.C., WHERE HE SAID-- HE

  • WANTED THAT SHIP IN THE BAY AREA AROUND SAN FRANCISCO TO STAY

  • WHERE IT WAS SO PEOPLE COULDN'T GET OFF SO HE COULD KEEP HIS

  • NUMBERS LOW.

  • I MEAN, THAT'S-- WHAT-- WHAT IS THAT ABOUT?

  • THAT'S INSANITY.

  • >> Stephen: IT IS.

  • AND IT'S ALSO-- IT'S ALSO PROBABLY PRETTY BAD POLITICS.

  • >> THAT'S IT.

  • >> Stephen: FROM JANUARY AND FEBRUARY AND INTO MARCH HE WAS

  • BETTING THE UNDER ALL THE TIME AND HE LOST ALL OF HIS CHIPS.

  • IT TURNS OUT HE HAD THE NUMBERS WRONG.

  • AND NOW HE'S BETTING THE UNDER AGAIN, THINKING PEOPLE WILL GO

  • SHOPPING BECAUSE HE TELLS THEM TO, OR GO TO RESTAURANTS BECAUSE

  • HE TELLS THEM TO AND NOT PAY ATTENTION TO THE RISE IN THE

  • DEATH TOLL.

  • NOT ONLY DOES IT SEEM CRAVEN ON A CERTAIN LEVEL, BUT IT ALSO

  • SEEMS JUST POLITICALLY DUMB FOR HIM TO DO.

  • >> YEAH, IT'S-- IT'S NUTS.

  • IT'S CRAZY.

  • IT'S CRAZY.

  • I HAVE NO WORDS FOR IT ANYMORE.

  • I JUST AM COMPLETELY...

  • NONPLUSSED, DUMBFOUNDED, CONUPON FOUNDED.

  • I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS GUY-- IT'S CRAZY.

  • AND WHAT'S SCARIER ABOUT IT ALL IS THE REPUB REPUBLICANS AND HIS

  • ENABLERS AROUND HIM ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING.

  • THEY'RE AROUND A CRAZY PERSON, AND THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING.

  • THEY'RE NOT STANDING UP TO HIM.

  • THEY'RE-- AS AN ACTOR, I WATCH THIS AND I SAY THIS IS LIKE--

  • THIS IS LIKE SHAKESPEARE.

  • THIS IS INCREDIBLE.

  • NOBODY HAS THE BALLS TO STAND UP TO THIS GUY.

  • AND THEY ALL HAVE A PLATFORM.

  • IF THEY WENT OFF-- BECAUSE YOU KNOW THAT'S WHAT HE'LL DO--

  • HOPEFULLY HE GETS-- HE DOESN'T GET RE-ELECTED-- AND HE'LL TRY

  • TO HAVE SOME TALK SHOW OR SOMETHING AND TALK ALL HE WANTS.

  • BUT THAT'S THEN.

  • BUT NOW HE'S PRESIDENT.

  • BUT THOSE PEOPLE COULD DO THE SAME THING, AND THEY'RE NOT

  • DOING-- THEY'RE JUST NOT DOING ANYTHING.

  • IT'S-- IT'S-- WHAT COULD BE WORTH IT FOR THEM TO SACRIFICE

  • THEIR SOULS TO MAKE THIS DEAL WITH THE DEVIL TO WORK WITH THIS

  • GUY?

  • IT'S CRAZY.

  • IT'S CRAZY.

  • >> Stephen: BOB, WE HAVE TO TAKE A LILTSS BIT OF A BREAK,

  • BUT STICK AROUND EVERYBODY, WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH MORE

  • MR. ROBERT DE NIRO.

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