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  • >> Stephen: WELCOME BACK, EVERYBODY.

  • JOINING ME TONIGHT IS THE ACADEMY AWARD WINNER BEST KNOWN

  • FOR "ROGER AND ME," "BOWLING FOR COLUMBINE," AND

  • "FAHRENHEIT 9/11."

  • HIS NEW FILM, WHICH WAS RELEASED TODAY, IS "PLANET OF THE

  • HUMANS."

  • PLEASE WELCOME, MICHAEL MOORE!

  • HEY, MICHAEL.

  • >> HEY, STEPHEN.

  • >> Stephen: LET ME ASK YOU AS A NATIVE MICHIGANNEDER ABOUT THE

  • PRESIDENT'S TWEETS.

  • THE PRESIDENT TWEETED, "IT'S TIME TO LIBERATE MICHIGAN."

  • WHAT DO YOU THINK HE MEANS BY THAT?

  • AND DO YOU FEEL LIBERATED?

  • >> WE'VE BEEN PLANNING OUR LIBERATION FOR THE LAST FOUR

  • YEARS.

  • SADLY, MICHIGAN VOTED FOR TRUMP.

  • SO IT WAS A HUGE EMBARRASSMENT.

  • AND MY FRIENDS AND I, AND I THINK MILLIONS OF PEOPLE IN

  • MICHIGAN-- WE'VE ALREADY GOT LIBERATION DAY ALL SET.

  • IT'S NOVEMBER 3, 2020.

  • THE PARTY STARTS AROUND 8:00 P.M. THAT NIGHT.

  • >> Stephen: I HOPE SO!

  • >> WE'LL HAVE A PARADE.

  • I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE A BIG

  • LIBERATION DAY.

  • NO, HE TWEETED THAT ABOUT "LIBERATE MICHIGAN."

  • AND IT WAS RIGHT AFTER HE TWEETED LIBERATE MINNESOTA."

  • AND I THOUGHT, WHO WANTS TO LIBERATE MINNESOTA?

  • >> Stephen: THEY BOTH HAVE "M"s.

  • HE CAN'T TELL THE DIFFERENCE.

  • >> HE WAS GOING TO SAY MISSOURI NEXT, PROBABLY.

  • NO, LISTEN, IT'S REALLY-- I MEAN, IT'S DIFFICULT BECAUSE

  • WE'VE GOT, IN MY MIND, WE'VE GOT THROW VIRUSES THAT WE'RE DEALING

  • WITH.

  • THE OBVIOUS ONE, THE CORONAVIRUS

  • THAT WE'RE ALL TRYING TO SURVIVE.

  • BUT THE SECOND VIRUS IS THE TRUMP VIRUS THAT NEEDS TO BE

  • ERADICATED, NONVIOLENTLY AND LEGALLY, AT THE POLLS.

  • AND THE THIRD VIRUS IS WHAT I CALL THE VIRUS-- THE PRE-TRUMP

  • VIRUS, THE ONE THAT WE HAD FOR MANY YEARS, LONG BEFORE TRUMP.

  • IT'S NOT TRUMP.

  • IT'S-- TRUMP DIDN'T FALL OUT OF THE SKY.

  • WE HAD A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT WE HADN'T QUITE FIXED YET IN

  • THIS COUNTRY.

  • AND THEY WERE CAUSING US, I THINK A LOT OF PAIN AND DESPAIR

  • AND WHATEVER.

  • AND SO, IF WE CAN GET TO THAT THIRD VIRUS, AFTER WE GET RID OF

  • THIS-- THE CORONAVIRUS, THE COVID-19 THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW,

  • AND IF WE CAN REMOVE TRUMP FROM OFFICE IN NOVEMBER, THEN I THINK

  • THAT-- I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE-- THOSE WHO ARE FORTUNATE

  • ENOUGH TO BE AT HOME, LIKE I HAVE BEEN.

  • I KNOW SOME PEOPLE ARE WATCHING THIS SAYING, "WHAT ARE YOU

  • TALKING ABOUT 'FORTUNATE'?

  • I'M CLIMBING THE WALLS."

  • I KNOW IF YOU HAVE KIDS IT'S BEEN HARD.

  • IT'S HARD WORK.

  • I'M PAST THAT POINT IN MY LIFE.

  • BUT I THINK THAT-- I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN THINKING

  • ABOUT, LIKE, HOW DO WE WANT TO LIVE AFTER THIS PANDEMIC?

  • BECAUSE WE WILL -- >> Stephen: AND WHAT

  • RESPONSIBILITY DO I HAVE FOR YOU?

  • >> YES.

  • >> Stephen: AS MY FELLOW AMERICAN.

  • >> YES, EXACTLY.

  • RIGHT?

  • I MEAN, THAT'S SO-- RIGHT DOWN-- IT'S AS SIMPLE AS WE'VE BEEN

  • ASKED TO STAY INSIDE SO THAT WE DON'T HARM ANYONE ELSE.

  • AND IT'S AMAZE AGO.

  • >> Stephen: THAT IS THE PART THAT IS REALLY HARD TO

  • UNDERSTAND, THE PEOPLE WHO-- AND I KNOW IT'S A TINY FRACTION OF

  • THE POPULATION THAT IS GOING OUT THERE AND PROTESTING, BUT IT'S

  • SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND THAT THOSE PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT, OF

  • COURSE, YOU CAN TAKE A RISK WITH YOUR OWN LIFE.

  • THIS IS A FREE COUNTRY.

  • BUT IT'S NOT YOUR LIFE THAT YOU'RE RISKING.

  • IT'S EVERYONE ELSE.

  • IT'S THE HOSPITAL WORKERS.

  • IT'S THE ELDERLY.

  • IT'S EVERYONE THAT YOU CAME IN CONTACT WITH BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO

  • ACT AS IF THAT YOU'RE CARRYING THE CORONAVIRUS.

  • >> RIGHT.

  • I'M IN NEW YORK CITY.

  • I HAVE AN APARTMENT HERE THAT I'M HERE WHEN I'M WORKING HERE.

  • I LIVE IN MICHIGAN.

  • I HAVE AN APARTMENT THERE.

  • AND YOU LOOK OUT THE WINDOW HERE, THE STREETS ARE EMPTY.

  • I MEAN, I'M REALLY AMAZED-- BECAUSE YOU WOULD THINK OF NEW

  • YORKERS, OF ALL PEOPLE, TO TELL THEM TO STAY INSIDE, AND YET,

  • THEY HAVE.

  • I MEAN, THE MAJORITY HAVE.

  • SO THE ONES WHO HAVEN'T, I DON'T EYE DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.

  • JUST LIKE YOU.

  • BUT I THINK THAT, THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN-- HAVE BEEN WILLING TO

  • SACRIFICE SO THAT OTHERS CAN LIVE, AND ESPECIALLY THE HEALTH

  • CARE WORKERS.

  • MAYOR de BLASIO ANNOUNCED TODAY THAT HE WANTS TO HAVE A

  • TICKER TAPE PARADE FOR THE HEALTH CARE WORKERS AND THE

  • FIRST RESPONDERS WHEN THIS IS ALL OVER.

  • AND MY FIRST-- MY FIRST THOUGHT WAS, "LET THEM HAVE THE TIME OFF

  • THAT WE'VE KIND OF HAD HERE."

  • THE LAST THING I WANT-- YOU KNOW HOW LONG BROADWAY IS?

  • TO MAKE THEM WALK DOWN BROADWAY AFTER THEY'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW,

  • WORKING 24 HOURS A DAY.

  • IT'S PROBABLY THE LAST THING THEY'D WANT TO DO.

  • BUT, BOY, WHATEVER WE PAY THEM, WE DON'T PAY THEM ENOUGH.

  • WHATEVER TIME OFF THEY NEED, THEY GET IT.

  • WE HAVE TO-- AND I DON'T MEAN JUST THEM, TOO.

  • I'M TALKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE STOCKED THE SHELVES OF

  • THE GROCERY STORE.

  • >> Stephen: PEOPLE WHO HAVE PICKED UP YOUR GARBAGE.

  • >> THE BUS DRIVER WHO IS TAKING THE HEALTH CARE WORKERS TO THE

  • HOSPITAL.

  • THE REASON WE HAVE THIS ELECTRICITY TODAY, SOMEBODY IS

  • AT CON-ED WORKING.

  • SOMEBODY IS AT THE WATER PLANT SO I CAN TURN THE TAP ON IN MY

  • FAUCET.

  • ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ESSENTIALLY RISKING THEIR LIVES

  • SO I CAN HAVE WATER, SO I CAN-- YOU AND I CAN TALK OVER THIS

  • DEVICE, WE HAVE TO REMEMBER ALL-- I THINK-- I THINK PEOPLE

  • ARE GOING TO-- I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE DIFFERENT.

  • I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE A DIFFERENT PEOPLE.

  • WE'RE NEVER GOING TO THINK THAT ANYBODY SHOULD HAVE TO WORK FOR

  • $7.25 AN HOUR.

  • I THINK THAT'S GONE.

  • I SAW YOU A WEEK OR SO AGO, AND YOU SAID-- NOT BERNIE-- YOU

  • SAID, WHEN YOU STOP NOW AND SEE ALL THIS, THE LAST THING WE

  • SHOULD EVER HAVE A DEBATE ABOUT IS WHETHER OR NOT EVERYBODY

  • SHOULD BE COVERED.

  • WHETHER OR NOT EVERYBODY HAS HEALTH INSURANCE.

  • >> Stephen: RIGHT, BECAUSE WHAT WE DISCOVERED IS THE SIMPLE

  • TRUTH, THAT FOR ME TO BE SAFE, YOU HAVE TO BE SAFE, TOO.

  • >> RIGHT.

  • WE'RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER.

  • THAT'S RIGHT.

  • IT'S THE GOLDEN RULE, ISN'T IT?

  • >> Stephen: LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT YOUR GOVERNOR, GOVERNOR

  • WHITMER.

  • >> YES.

  • >> Stephen: SHE'S GETTING A LOT OF HEAT FROM THE REPUBLICANS

  • RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE THEY KNOW SHE'S POPULAR IN MICHIGAN.

  • >> YES.

  • >> Stephen: POLLS SHOW HER RESPONSE TO THE CORONAVIRUS IS

  • MORE POPULAR THAN THE PRESIDENT'S RESPONSE.

  • AND THERE'S A LOT OF TALK SHE MIGHT BE JOE BIDEN'S PICK FOR

  • VICE PRESIDENT.

  • WHAT DO WE NEED TON ABOUT YOUR GOVERNOR?

  • >> WELL, WE'RE VERY LUCKY TO HAVE HER.

  • IN THE MIDTERM ELECTION IN 2018, WE TRIED TO RECTIFY OUR

  • EMBARRASSMENT OF VOTING FOR TRUMP IN 2016.

  • SO IN THE OFF-YEAR ELECTION, WE THREW OUT ALL THE REPUBLICANS IN

  • THE TOP LEADERSHIP IN LANSING, SO THEY'RE ALL DEMOCRATS NOW.

  • WE HAVE WHITMER, WHO IS A WOMAN-- GOVERNOR.

  • WE HAVE A BLACK LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR.

  • WE HAVE A LESBIAN ATTORNEY GENERAL.

  • AND WE HAVE A SINGLE MOM WHO IS THE SECRETARY OF STATE.

  • THAT'S OUR NEW LEADERSHIP.

  • AND TWO REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMEN WHO REPRESENTED THE WHITEHOUSE

  • SUBURBS OF DETROIT WERE BOTH TOSSED OUT IN THAT ELECTION AND

  • REPLACED WITH DEMOCRATIC WOMEN.

  • SO, THAT WAS A SIGN OF WHAT COULD HAPPEN THIS YEAR.

  • AND SHE-- YOU KNOW, I THINK EVERYBODY WAS REALLY HAPPY.

  • AND TO SEE HER SORT OF TAKE IT ON THE CHIN FROM TRUMP, TO HAVE

  • HIM HOLD UP SENDING MATERIALS THAT PEOPLE IN MICHIGAN NEEDED

  • IN ORDER TO LIVE, TO SURVIVE, WAS JUST THE MOST OUTRAGEOUS--

  • OUTRAGEOUS THING.

  • AND I THINK-- TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT HER BEING A

  • POSSIBLE RUNNING MATE FOR JOE BIDEN, I CAN JUST ANSWER THAT BY

  • SAYING WHAT SHE HAS SAID AND WHAT I KNOW THE PEOPLE OF

  • MICHIGAN FEEL.

  • SHE CAN'T LEAVE RIGHT NOW.

  • WE-- WE-- IF WE'VE LEARNED ANYTHING FROM THE LEADERSHIP IN

  • D.C., WE NEED LEADERSHIP IN MICHIGAN AND IN ALL THE STATES.

  • THE GOVERNORS ARE THE ONES THAT ARE PROBABLY GOING TO PULL US

  • OUT OF THIS.

  • AND SHE CAN'T GO ANYWHERE.

  • >> Stephen: MICHAEL, WE HAVE TO A LITTLE BIT OF A BREAK.

  • BUT PLEASE DON'T GO ANYWHERE ANYBODY.

  • WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH MORE MR. MICHAEL MOORE.

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