Name: 喬恩-米查姆說，我們需要一個復仇者的總統團隊。FDR, LBJ, 和Barack Obama. (Jon Meacham Says We Need An Avengers Team Of Presidents: FDR, LBJ, And Barack Obama)
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MY NEXT GUEST IS A PULITZER PRIZE-WINNING AUTHOR AND

HISTORIAN WHOSE LATEST BOOK IS "THE HOPE OF GLORY."

I ALWAYS WANTED TO SPEND MONDAY THURSDAY WITH YOU.

>> Stephen: THIS IS A TIME WHEN YOU WOULD PUT OUT THE

>> IT WAS HARD TO GET THE INTERVIEW, BUT IT'S GREAT.

>> Stephen: AS AN HISTORIAN, I WANT TO KNOW ABOUT YOUR BOOK

"THE HOPE OF GLORY," FOCUSING ON THE SEVEN FINAL WORDS OF CHRIST.

>> IT WAS THE LAST WORDS FROM THE CROSS, IT'S AN OLD

ECCLESIASTICAL DEVICE TO PREACH ON GOOD FRIDAY ABOUT THE SEVEN

COMMENTS FROM FATHER FORGIVE THEM FOR THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY

I DID IT SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS AGO AT OUR OLD PARISH IN

NEW YORK, ST. THOMAS FIFTH AVENUE, AND IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY

ON GOOD FRIDAY TO CONTEMPLATE VARIOUS ELEMENTS OF THE LIFE OF

JESUS AND THE MEANING OF THAT LIFE THROUGH WHAT HE SAID IN

WHAT IS MOST UNQUESTIONABLY THE MOST AGONIZING PAIN YOU CAN

THE CROSS WAS RESERVED FOR SLAVES AND CRIMINALS.

YOU COULDN'T CRUCIFY A CITIZEN IN THE ROMAN EMPIRE, AND WHAT HE

MANAGED TO SAY IN THAT MOMENT AND WHAT THE CHURCH CAME TO

BELIEVE HE SAID, IT OFFERS YOU A REALLY AMAZING WINDOW INTO WHAT

THE MESSAGE OF JESUS WAS AND AS IMPORTANT WHAT THE EARLY CHURCH

THOUGHT HIS MESSAGE WAS, AS THEY WERE FACING IMMENSE PAIN AND

PERSECUTION AS THEY TRIED TO HOLD THE CHURCH TOGETHER.

>> Stephen: SO HOW ARE YOU GOING TO BE CELEBRATING EASTER

WITH THE SOCIAL DISTANCING GOING ON RIGHT NOW?

>> OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE WE WOULD BE AT CHURCH.

>> Stephen: SOME PEOPLE ARE GOING TO CHURCH, THOUGH.

SOME PEOPLE ARE DEFYING IT AND SAYING, NO, THE CHURCH SERVICE

ITSELF IS PART OF THE RELIGIOUS EXPRESSION AND TRADITION AND

>> BEING WILLFULLY STUPID IS NOT PART OF THE CHRISTIAN TRADITION.

THE EARLY CHRISTIANS MET IN HOUSES, THEY MET QUIETLY.

WE HAVE A CHANCE TO HAVE THE MOST AUTHENTIC EASTER YOU CAN

IT BEGAN WHEN THE DISCIPLES WERE IN HIDING.

THE DISCIPLES WERE SOCIALLY DISTANCED BECAUSE THEY WERE

WE'RE GOING TO BE IN OUR HOUSEHOLDS BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING

>> Stephen: YOU'RE AN HISTORIAN AND WRITE ABOUT

WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THE PRESIDENT'S RESPONSE TO THE

THIS IS A GREAT CRISIS, THIS IS A GREAT MOMENT, AND IN GREAT

MOMENTS, GREAT LEADERS RISE TO THE OCCASION.

I THINK THIS IS WHY WE HAVE A PRESIDENT, THIS IS WHY WE HAVE A

FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THIS IS WHY WE HAVE A SOCIAL CONTRACT, YOU

KNOW, THAT WE SURRENDER CERTAIN RIGHTS IN ORDER TO BE SAFE IN

THE PRESIDENT IS SO INTENT ON JUSTIFYING EVERYTHING HE'S DONE

THAT HE'S ACTING MORE LIKE A CHURLISH MONARCH THEN A LEADING

>> Stephen: I WISH MORE OF MY GUESTS USED THE WORD "CHURLISH."

( LAUGHTER ) >> WELL, HERE'S WHAT I THINK, IF

THERE WERE ANY WAYS TO DO THIS, WE SHOULD HAVE AN AVENGER'S TEAM

>> Stephen: IF WE COULD HAVE "THE" PRESIDENT FOR THIS MOMENT

IT WOULD BE FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT WITH HIS SENSE OF HOPE AND BOLD,

F.D.R., BRILLIANT, SAID ABOVE ALL, TRY SOMETHING.

IF IT FAILS, ADMIT IT FRANKLY AND TRY ANOTHER.

BUT ABOVE ALL TRY SOMETHING, AND DON'T DEFEND EVERYTHING I'VE

HE'S ALSO SAID, I'M LIKE A BASEBALL PLAYER.

IF I COULD GET A HIT EVERY COUPLE OF TIMES I WAS AT BAT, I

IF WE COULD HAVE LYNDON JOHNSON WHO COULD MAKE THE PRIVATE

SECTOR DO EXACTLY WHAT HE WANTED THEM TO DO, AND IF WE COULD HAVE

BARACK OBAMA WITH THE DEVOTION TO SCIENCE AND FACT, IF YOU

COULD HAVE THAT TEAM AT THIS MOMENT WE WOULD BE IN BETTER

>> Stephen: AND HARRY TRUMAN FOR THE CLAUSE.

WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN WRITING A BIOGRAPHY ABOUT

YOU'VE WRITTEN SO MANY GREAT PRESIDENTIAL BIOGRAPHIES.

THE THING ABOUT TRUMP THAT INTERESTS ME MORE THAN TRUMP IS

WHY HAVE SO MANY AMERICANS SURRENDERED THEMSELVES TO THIS

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