One of the things that you're against.

What is your feeling about that?

You feel that that's another invasion of privacy.

Oh, smoke marijuana.

Uh uh.

Well, let's zip.

Very touchy political area of marijuana thing, but it does fall into this category.

Uh, part of the American heritage seems to be a sort of a Puritan approach to life.

Uh, people have psychological complexes.

They ought to be upright.

They are to, ah, be decent, that sort of thing.

And it invaded the legislative halls.

As you might expect, almost every state has laws against homosexuality.

Almost every state has laws against fornication.

Almost every state has laws against Houston.

Uh, it's the federal government that deals with stuff like heroin, drugs.

It's over like that.

Uh, the government is very concerned with people's moral, uh, makeup.

Uh, this is coarse, something government has always been concerned with.

Unfortunately, since the pharaohs of Egypt, uh, the government tries to step in, tries to regulate people.

Ah, there was some sort of movement away from this during the 19th century, but not that strong.

And certainly not the United States.

United States has always been very vigorous in regulating the sins of its populace.

In 19 twenties, the sin of booze was forbidden.

Uh, 19 sixties.

The sin of marijuana is forbidden throughout this whole period of sin of, Ah, fornication has been forbidden.

And I don't think the government should convert itself for that sort of thing.

Let the person regulate his own life.

What What public harm is caused by, uh, fornication or something like that?

It's, Ah, an act between two adults, presumably in private.

If it were out in the public streets, there might be some reason for Governor action.

But these laws in the states regulate private acts between adult individuals in their own homes, and I see no reason for such such an invasion of privacy.

What what will life be like in 1990 if we have a very free and easy culture?

Uh, people smoke marijuana at night to relax because, you know, it is now supplanted the five o'clock martini, that sort of thing.

And the government is, uh, you know, just all over the place with the bugging devices, spy cameras, that sort of thing, and it could sort of.

Since everybody does this, everybody relaxes in these ways and they're still lost in the books.

The government could be very arbitrary and who it addresses, whom it arrests and whom it Let's go free, Ana, these laws just actually have to be repealed.

It is going to be any freedom from arbitrary government action.

You see, one of the problems with uh, having such an incredibly minute network of laws is the fact of the government has discretion about whom it enforces these against on whom it let's go free.

Uh, I understand that, uh, the Children of poor ghetto people are very often picked up, harassed for being out after curfew or for being caught drinking it so forth.

And the Children of the upper classes are just sort of reprimanded, released to their parents, that sort of thing.

Uh, this is this is a privilege in society, all right.

And it exists because the government has this discretionary power for the enforcement of these laws.

I think that all laws which are try to regulate the individual in that way, that sort of personal way ought to be repealed and that those laws which the public still believes ought to be in the books like Prohibition of Murder.

Those things ought to be enforced very vigorously.

You see, it's just that there's some things which I don't think you're in the public sphere and other things I think may well be.