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You're messing with my son's head, says Shell Williams.

He's seven years old at home in self isolation in his full leads kit, playing FIFA on his switch.

When you say leader for he jumps up and shouts What my husband says, it's okay.

Make it 20 years ago.

Yes, it was, but we will joyed looking back on it on.

We've still got from that same season Manchester United and are still to come.

But Jamie Carragher was involved in that game.

He's in Manchester tonight with Gary Neville and it wasn't all bad.

That was a setback in this season, Jamie, which you actually finished above Leeds United.

Andi won a Cup trouble.

I think we forget that sometimes it wasn't this and I always say that season was my favorite season.

When I'm speaking to you show with Liverpool supporters or something and they're using being a say that people always expected, say 5 4005 was one moment in such a situation.

You've obviously got your seasoning in 99.

But the thing about what we did not see what you did before anyone gets on to start getting treated by my new funds.

Okay, that was the real trouble, if you like.

But it's a season, you winning every week.

Now you told, Please don't call till the end of it any season.

But it's that thing.

And you know what it's like when you win a weekend with me that we use quitting good mood.

Everyone saw the bouncing off each, and that's why I always say That's my favorite season and I sometimes think probably your your best masters.

We're in the middle of it if you don't sound out looking at that.

You see?

And I was like a big achievement, only just thinking all that only corpse that it's not the European Cup, it's not believe.

Is it almost dismissed from outside in some ways.

What we what we did in that season?

No, I've got on hold it a mold.

So at the end of that season, when you're playing the F A Cup and, you know, it took me a little bit.

I remember it Booking May I remember.

I remember actually coming coming up for my son, but to actually watch the deaf a court filing thinking e think it's time to pull the trophy?

I know he does, Um, because obviously there's that feeling that were you getting closer?

Where you getting close?

It was always the one that we feared coming back, if you like.

No one ever saw the man she city thing coming in so late to thousands.

But Liverpool, you always felt like you would get in close and then you dip off a little bit, Then you would get in close.

Then you get off a bit.

So when you win trophies, we always knew that could build momentum.

We could build a confidence that you could start, you know, get your recruitment right from them.

But just for me and Liverpool, it always felt to me that every every suit, every time you got close, you are the lost players or you didn't recruit.

Well, if that's spelled the same for you know that that was that was the story of that team was the next scene we didn't.

You bought one player was gonna reach.

I think General Hewlett felt that team don't show.

Well, you know, difficult angle.

Change the team so much he brought you and Reese in the next season.

We actually think he finished the bull.

You in the league and I are still in the league, but we got to the quarters off the Champions League.

Be sure they got through.

Actually, we will have played you in the semi buy Aleve accuser with the team at that stage on.

I just think at that time, if things didn't go well, few used on ability.

You're much issue nice and probably also finance.

I think that's unusual.

Real fair that I think I think that was the summit.

Where was we?

So we sort of probably spend that money, but in about four players and you almost needed them all to wear, and it didn't quite work, and that was possibly the end of Julie's time.

Then, looking back, it didn't always feel like you were talking a little bit in the transfer market.

You wouldn't quite gold for the best place.

There's a feeling you either couldn't go for the best place was financially, didn't have the money or you couldn't attract the players to come to Liverpool because asked a little better.

We were better immediately.

Just you were at that time attractive to come to the club because you were off No one.

The league for a number of years.

I don't whether you thought it was which one you thought it was always felt to me like you're toying with in the transfer market.

If the market was at 13,000,015 million lyrical eights that the market was 25 you were soft.

60.

You never quite there.

I always used.

I mean, I think I think it was a national pretty similar in what we would spend that you probably more than holding your Manchester United at the time.

I said, you really?

On the way I look at it.

And to be honest, the big difference between Vanger and General Julia.

You Jennifer, you actually adorable?

I think Van Gogh was a genius in the transfer market.

We signed a memo criticizing the place we signed here because you're actually very good place for Liverpool.

But if you think we signed a meal.

Has he brought 11 million Vegas Ein Tier Resource, 11 million?

I think we signed Nick Barmby for six or seven million.

They sound Robert pitchers for six or seven million.

You see where I'm going with all those type of players with any sort of they got So Campbell on on a free at the time.

But you know that type of thing where this was pretty similar fi wise, but they just become superstars.

But answers become Medical players think Vanga has an ability in the transfer market.

I think that's why I think they competed.

But you think he couldn't match what money wise, I think.

I think that's why that's what shot me in the last few years about what you have been clock's.

Still because open till the point where he went for Alison Van Dyke, Liverpool was still work quite going to the levels of the clubs in the clubs worth 60 70 million.

Where is Liverpool?

It's 25 30 million, maybe get up to 35.

All of a sudden you took the last piece of the Jigsaw and then all of a sudden, Alison up Van Dyke happens that Alison Apathy, and they were the last piece of the Jigsaw.

In essence, he always felt to me going back those 10 15 years ago, you had that team that had, um, Mascherano, Alonzo Torres, Gerard yourself appear Rainer in that I thought, That's the That's the one point where I thought It's a hell of a team, this another one or two onto this and then we really have.

But then alongs old left.

Mascherano left, and it's that that that team started to fall away.

Then Torres obviously left a year or so after.

I think going back to that actual game and that that particular season or really was that easy Christians.

You get involved in here when you talk about not going that extra way for a transfer.

I think he was probably the highest paid player in the Premier League at that time.

They made me sign from Middlesbrough for five million eggs on huge sense.

I think after that game that was the end of him of plane left back for Liverpool, the end up having to play left midfield times not play.

I am lending you playing right back.

It seems going to left back, but that was the big sorted.

But that was the fear season, To be honest, when I really will leave or I wasn't until that stayed in the team every single game.

That was because we'd signed babble Z ago.

We had a really strong, powerful back for all.

You're looking at those goals going, but that that team is built on being defensively.

Charlotte keeping clean sheets.

I end up going to a left back.

Really?

But it wa ce it wasn't it is.