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  • necessity, the saying goes, is the mother of inventions.

  • And this is, according to some GPS, necessary face masks to protect against Corona virus.

  • Three D printers are used to make the bands and in this case, water bottles.

  • But it could be something similar to make.

  • The shield there was concerned from both practice staff and staff across the whole, off the crime again at book that actually would quite like something likes and face protection.

  • Allied Protection, which is an issue that standard.

  • So rather than trying to deplete hospital supply chains, this cottage industry has led to 10,000 orders so far.

  • Despite photo calls with boxes of gloves and the Army called in to deliver supplies.

  • N HS leaders remain deeply concerned about the lack of protective equipment.

  • The Royal College of Nursing told us that in a meeting with the health minister this afternoon, they were assured that it is being distributed.

  • But the college warned they would be holding the government to account.

  • I'm hearing from my members that set in hospitals are bending the rules in terms of what they're asking them to wear when they're dealing with covert 19 patients.

  • I want to make it very, very clear that nurses should be able to have fluent repellent masks, fluid repellent masks on.

  • They should have aprons and gloves if they are working within one meter off a patient, and most nurses will be working within one meter because they are delivering personal care.

  • They also need to have eye protection if there is a danger of sprechen.

  • If nurses aren't safe, then they won't be delivering the care that is needed by this, the patients and people of this country.

  • The government says that 50 million masks have been delivered across England in the past two days, along with more than 24 million gloves on 1.4 million i protectors, which sounds a lot.

  • But there are 1.3 million staff in England's N hs, covered 19 is virulent, and every day the numbers infected are growing.

  • 570 people were as of last night in intensive care units in London alone, and there are growing staff shortages.

  • A cardiologists showed US masks he has now brought before returning to work.

  • He had spent a week recovering from covered possibly court from a patient who he believes caught it in the hospital.

  • That patient didn't make it on, and she goes down as one of these people describe his elderly with underlying health conditions, but she should have lived to 90.

  • If if we want to keep our people safe and keep their their patients safe from them, we need to be doing the most intense protection that is feasible in the course of a working day.

  • This isn't just a story about protection, though.

  • It is also about testing.

  • And today the British Medical Association described the government's approach as illogical.

  • We had situations where many G practices and hospitals were understaffed.

  • The staff themselves who were self isolating were telling us they felt able to work.

  • Many of them felt able to work.

  • But we're following the guidance.

  • If they were able to be tested, they would come back to work.

  • Now we made that point right at the outset.

  • You seems counterintuitive that we're reducing our workforce at a time when we need it the most.

  • The drug company, Roche Diagnostics, has confirmed to Channel four news that it has struck a deal with the government to increase Corona virus testing.

  • Automatic machines are now being used in two n hs trusts, Public Health.

  • England has said it will provide an extra 5000 tests a day by mid April, and the government has promised, at least in the short term, to reach 25,000 day.

  • Victoria is with me now.

  • Now we've seen a large rise in the number of reported deaths, but it's not quite a straightforward of that is because there's been some confusion about what was being reported.

  • So yesterday we saw 43 deaths, which was 43 too many.

  • But we were quite surprised how low that figure of walls because it didn't fit the trajectory.

  • What they have done is they have changed the reporting system for what seemed eminently sensible reasons.

  • It's because they need to take into account, having to tell the families they need to take into account the time it takes to tell coroners they need to do more testing mostly as well.

  • They want to reduce the staff time spent filling in the form, so what they've done is they've changed the testing.

  • They changed the reporting so that it went from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. Yesterday which was essentially half day figure.

  • Now it will go from 5 p.m. for 24 hours, so we'll get a fuller figure now.

  • The fact is that in China we saw a whole lot of changes and reporting as systems adapt.

  • And that is what the N Hs is doing now.

  • Thanks, Victor.

  • Now they may be better known for making vacuum cleaners, but James Dyson's company is now being asked to make ventilators.

  • The N HS.

  • The UK currently has 8000 ventilators but needs 30,000 to cope with the Corona virus pandemic.

  • The government says it's doing everything it can to procure Maur like asking Dyson to make.

  • As the virus spreads and growing numbers fall seriously ill.

  • There's an urgent push to get life saving ventilators.

  • Ministers have acknowledged the UK needs tens of thousands more to prepare for the peak of the pandemic.

  • A recent report from Imperial College showed that at least 30% of Corona virus caters will require the Canticle ventilators.

  • We want anybody who has the manufacturing capability to turn to a manufacturer.

  • Ventilators Thio do that.

  • But after the health minister, Matt Hancock, recently put out a call for help from British manufacturers.

  • There has been confusion over ventilator numbers in the N.

  • H s and government plans to procure more.

  • It's estimated a minimum of 30,000 ventilators will be needed to cope with an upsurge in covert 19 patients.

  • There are officially just over 8000 currently available in the U.

  • K 8000.

  • More have been ordered from existing U K An international manufacturers.

  • The problem is ordered doesn't mean received, Although some may be available within weeks, others may still be months away.

  • Allow me to present the Occident.

  • This system takes in standard four bar.

  • Among those responding to the government's called a team of scientists at Oxford University who've come up with this ox vent, a simple ventilator prototype using off the shelf parts that it is wade immediately that it doesn't already You're really there.

  • That Rehearsed is simple, is safe and that they aren't the only ones to have stepped up.

  • Industry titan James Dyson, moving from vacuums to ventilators, said he had received an order off 10,000 units for the UK government, an announcement slightly tempered when the government said today they were still in the testing phase.

  • and Dice is designed like any others still needed to pass safety tests.

  • Dyson a confident they can deliver such a large order and meet all the safety requirements.

  • But there are some concerns about the ability of companies like Dyson to suddenly switch their production and make complex ventilators on a mass scale.

  • Really, he won't produce things in very quickly, just only just good enough to do the job.

  • Doesn't need any, um, in an nzt thio.

  • While large scale production of ventilators in the UK still appears some way off, the government claimed today that because of a mix up, it missed an email from the U about ventilator procurement but said it would consider joining future rounds.

  • Opposition MPs accuse the government of putting ideology over people's lives.

  • We need ventilators to say Lives on dit would be extraordinary, unacceptable and quite wrong.

  • If the government were putting ideology before saving those lives that ideology be bringing that because we are leaving the European Union, we're not taking part in a scheme that the European Union have invited us to take party.

  • We need those ventilators.

  • The government insisted it was an honest mistake, nothing to do with the ideology, but it will struggle to justify any decisions that may cause delays in getting vital ventilators to those who desperately need them in the coming weeks.

  • Well, joining me now via the Internet is Saffron Corddry, whose deputy chief executive of N hs providers, the Association for Health Trusts in England and your colleague, the chief executive this morning will have set a lot of alarms going when he used the phrase tsunami of cases with regard to London hospitals.

  • Can you explain what that means?

  • What he was talking about was the fact that we've heard from hospital chief executives in London that they are seeing wave upon wave off, off, seriously ill patients, and I think that that is what he was referring to.

  • So people coming in with stepped in front of us, needing very high levels off care, seeing it on a level that appeared to be unimaginable and in terms of equipments on personal protective equipment.

  • What's the current situation?

  • So what?

  • What trust chief execs are telling us is that they really need some clarity on on the test on the equipment arrangements.

  • What what we are seeing is a change in the guidelines from Public Health England.

  • We need them to explain those changes.

  • They know what may well be the right ones.

  • But staff on the front line need to see those explained.

  • They need to see the evidence behind it so that they can feel safe in terms of the supply off equipment.

  • We think that that's got better.

  • That's certainly the reports that we're hearing.

  • The logistical distribution has improved, its being pushed out to the front line.

  • There are still problems.

  • There are still frustrations, but more of that is coming through.

  • But I think it's this clarity around the safety standards that are being prescribed on the equipment.

  • Where were you up to in terms off the capacity off the vent?

  • Slater's that we have, which we now know is 1000 not the 12,000 at the health secretary spoke about at one time on also whether those ventilators can be used for more than one patient at a time, as some people have suggested.

  • I don't know the full details on the ventilator capacity.

  • I think overall, what we know is that we really need immediately and then over time because we're in this.

  • This is a marathon, not a sprint are so many people have said we need that capacity and we need it on an ongoing basis.

  • So we know that the Nightingale Hospital is due to be up and running.

  • I think next week with 500 beds.

  • But we're not clear yet how the ventilator capacity is going to be filled for that.

  • So we know that that's being nationally procured.

  • That doesn't come locally on that.

  • All of those supplies will go into into that hospital.

  • But I think the important thing here is what's being done by trussed up and down the country to create as much capacity as possible they have done in such a short period of time.

  • Well, what we wouldn't ever have expected them to be able to do.

  • Discharging patients, getting getting bed occupancy levels down to below 80% some some really amazing work being done in order to manage this wave off patients, that is, that is coming, so so much is being done.

  • But we can't predict how this is gonna pan out, and I think in terms of the ventilators, it's just a cz many as we can get as quickly as possible, but I think the picture there isn't clear.

  • But what we do need clarity.

  • Honest is when when the protective equipment will come.

  • And also when testing will be widespread is the earlier earlier speakers in your piece said Yeah, you raised testing.

  • I mean, this is the thing that Energy's staff have been saying all the time.

  • Is it any clearer today when they all going to get access to testing?

  • It's not clear yet.

  • We're asking for clarity by by the end of tomorrow, because it's it's absolutely critical because we've got staff who are off sick with symptoms.

  • They may not be Corona virus symptoms and maybe have to come back to work earlier.

  • We have staff who are self isolating on me that meets on some occasions.

  • They can't come back for two weeks.

  • They are incredibly frustrated.

  • Off duty decade is a threat.

  • We need to see that testing both for patients, it's important we continue to test patients.

  • We need to know what they're sick with, aunt, how they should be treated.

  • But it's also critical that we we understand that staff the testing too, because we've got upwards off 20 to 30% sickness.

  • Rachel Absence rates across the neck.

  • Chesson We were already down 100,000 staff with stuff very tired before this began.

  • So, you know, it's a really urgent situation, and we would just urge the government and the national organizations to come forward with clarity on that testing as soon as possible.

  • I mean, yesterday the scientists were saying that the next two weeks are the period over which this is going to grow.

  • If we are already a 20 to 30% staff absence in hospitals now on, we don't have access to testing for several days.

  • That's gonna get really alarming levels quite quickly, isn't it?

  • We're already concerned about staffing levels, and it yes, it is a concerning picture.

  • I think we have to remember we're doing everything we can trust.

  • Chief executives are doing everything they can in order to soar star from elsewhere.

  • You know, we've had this big national call for retired stuff to come back in.

  • Often they won't be going to front line roles, but there be freeing others who can be redeployed.

  • That's really, really important.

  • 15,000 people have responded to that call.

  • That's that's really encouraging.

  • And we also know that the independent sector capacity is going to be used in order to help this.

  • So lots is being done.

  • But yes, those stuff absence rate.

  • So what we need to tackle with the testing.

  • And that's why the testing can't come soon enough.

  • Saffron Corddry, Thank you very much indeed.

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