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  • He's good for you, everybody rolling.

  • Wow!

  • Movie magic.

  • Let's make a content, baby.

  • Yeah, let's do it I'm at Hey, what's up?

  • But how's it going?

  • Good.

  • Thanks for having me here for being here.

  • Yeah, inside the Actors studio with our fine wine.

  • I mean, what says finer than mid day on a Wednesday with some warm wine?

  • I love it.

  • Is this a Californian red?

  • A mile back?

  • Email.

  • Better.

  • What's going on, man?

  • Have you been?

  • I think I have been good.

  • It's been very busy, but you always know it's good when someone goes having good.

  • I don't know.

  • I have been called on that recently of like starting my response to that question with a large sign.

  • I don't mean to guess it's kind of wearing them in life right now.

  • What's the Laird sy from?

  • Uh, it's being very good with very busy.

  • It's missing a lot of video games that have also backed up, but I have been able to touch barely monster under Ice Born just came out, and I had power within its like to actually just play.

  • Just play I have to clarify it with us is like are you in it or Yeah.

  • Are you?

  • Yeah, but I actually really like the game, too.

  • Yeah.

  • Um, yeah.

  • I guess the side comes from being pleasantly busy with a lot of projects that I'm proud of.

  • Yeah, but it was, You know, when you're passionate about your work, you work yourself to death.

  • Yeah.

  • So very scary cycle, because it's like, I love this work so much.

  • I want to be in it completely.

  • I want to drown in this, and then you realize I'm and I'm getting burned out.

  • You have to, like, pull away and figure out your limits.

  • And yeah, what works is otherwise you're just gonna end up hating your job.

  • You don't hate something that you were originally super passionate about.

  • Exactly.

  • Weird balance to find.

  • I think I think having the right people around, he helps with that.

  • I'm very fortunate that I have a wife who definitely gives me saying Yeah, and we'll call me on my shit and tell me when to back away, starting to scare me a little for you from the precipice.

  • She's awesome.

  • We I hung out with Matt last year for the first time.

  • We went to two bit circus.

  • Yeah, wife Cristina V way.

  • All just kind of hung out and shot the shit.

  • But you guys were like a riot.

  • Your wife's also so much for She's a black, So bubbly.

  • Oh, yeah, She's also she'll cut a bitch.

  • You know, she did.

  • I've said before.

  • She she defends my honor.

  • Yeah.

  • You know, the two of us.

  • I'm the diplomat.

  • She's the fighter.

  • So she's the one is ready.

  • Just, like, smash a bottle and fucking got someone.

  • And I'm like, Well, it's not a prison.

  • It's a good It's a good balance.

  • It works out well, because you guys work a lot together as well, right?

  • Yeah.

  • Actually, how does that does that ever get in the way?

  • Not to delve into your personal relationship to know, um, the safe space?

  • No.

  • Uh, it's it's great.

  • Um, we work on a lot of things together.

  • Like through a critical role in everything.

  • We do it.

  • That company.

  • She's the creative director of our twist.

  • Transistor develops and produces all the content we do for the channel.

  • And she's just a She's a badass.

  • She is great.

  • A production.

  • She knows what she wants.

  • She's incredibly creative, and she's another hard worker, so we work in a similar space.

  • But we also don't overlap so heavily.

  • Yeah, so it's not like we're stepping on each other's toes when we come home.

  • In the end of the day, we both can talk about the adventures that we had, even though we're in the same space.

  • So it's not too similar.

  • Yeah.

  • Um, what does a work day for you even look like and so much of the week.

  • I guess, um, you seem to be on all the time.

  • It's definitely Well, there's that.

  • I don't have one of those things where you realize that.

  • You starting early subconscious, about like, Oh, God, my song All the time, huh?

  • No, but, uh, yeah, I'm very fortunate.

  • Voiceovers been very, very good.

  • I'm Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays usually are filled with sessions for different cartoons and video games and stuff with little little breaks in between.

  • And then Tuesdays begin awesome.

  • Getting with a personal trainer again, trying to help the older you get, the harder it is to keep yourself functioning.

  • Yeah, especially in this like circle.

  • It's so easy.

  • Just let yourself go.

  • because you work so much.

  • And then it's like shit.

  • I forgot to eat from 12 hours.

  • Yeah, and then you just end up eating shit, and then you look like shit.

  • Six months?

  • Yeah.

  • You know, six months, if you're lucky, I'm, like, three weeks.

  • Uh, yes.

  • Like trying get up early and go to the gym for a bit from their waking up.

  • Seeing what auditions or do that day going to my office and record this auditions set him off, Uh, then go through my e mails and see what sort of business responses need to be responded to a lot of its approvals right now with critical role.

  • Yeah, which those who aren't familiar particles are a DND twitch stream that I started with a bunch of other voice actor friends of mine about almost five years ago.

  • And now we're doing a dark horse comic book series.

  • We're doing art books were doing the animated series of the kick started, and it's just kind of blown up in a way we never expected.

  • I think I feel like I should brag about it for you because I feel like you're underselling it this way.

  • Got a kick started.

  • We only ask for 750 k and got like 11.

  • Yeah, got it.

  • Got pretty crazy to get to a point where you're like Oh, fuck.

  • What do we do it all this morning?

  • Yeah, the first day.

  • Like, we're like, we ran into stretch goals in the 1st 24 hours and we're in this weird, numb fugue state of one like, I don't know what's happening way do know.

  • Oh, God, yeah.

  • Um, so it's great.

  • It's great.

  • It's a wonderful problem, tohave It just means you get to make the Siri's that much more amazing.

  • Uh, yes, Like, right now it's going to the email approvals of that.

  • I'm going through our designs and approvals for landscapes and character designs and objects and architecture of the different cities.

  • And because it's a world that I created, that part of my job now is giving notes to all these artists and approving everything.

  • And make sure that it's kind of in the space you want it to be that you're like the creative director that basically is subtly.

  • Yeah, there is the one over on that over which is the entire project.

  • But I'm still, you know, the buck stops with me as far as design approvals that fit with my world.

  • Yeah, which is pretty cool.

  • So it's like going to those emails in the morning.

  • Then, like on a Tuesday, we have our company meeting where all of us meet from different departments and go over what's happened, what we're planning to do.

  • Uh, you know, like our upcoming charity initiatives are becoming projects that are being shot on film than any ideas you want to throw out.

  • Then the rest of the afternoon usually is doing more meetings with the animated series or proving comic book stuff, of course.

  • And then, uh, going home and me and my wife probably getting in our pajamas, she pours a glass of wine, and we our current, is kind of weird.

  • Our current YouTube ritual, we do know is we get home.

  • We turn on Philip Franco to catch up on just general news, um, in that sphere, and then probably veg for about an hour.

  • Just silly.

  • You two videos.

  • And if we follow?

  • Yeah, don't play with our bird bird.

  • We have a bird bird's name, birds, names, day gone day gone?

  • Yeah, partially.

  • She named it partially named off.

  • Uh, like the actual castle Mythos Day gone?

  • Yeah, and maybe even stay.

  • Gone from sky room.

  • Just rewards.

  • That's cool.

  • What kind of bird is it?

  • She's a little green sheet, Konya, which is like a hook build parrot about that Big o is really adorable.

  • She says a few things.

  • She definitely loves my wife a lot more than she loves me.

  • You could detect.

  • Yeah, we're like, we're okay with each other, you know?

  • But she, like, cuddles up on more Isha.

  • And it's like a I love him.

  • I get close to kiss her and she trusted wish between us.

  • And there's, like, mine.

  • Like you have a u t oppose due to start dominance.

  • Todo often that is just stared down that for I'll try that next time, you know how goes from beneath my bloody nose bandage?

  • Um, do you ever get time to switch off then?

  • Yeah, I am.

  • I will say I'm I'm thankful that all the stuff we're doing with critical role for the most part and, uh, I guess getting comfortable with just being myself on the Internet.

  • Yeah, has allowed me a space where I don't have to be on as much.

  • Yeah, that's the secret to it, because it's, I feel like you probably started off in the same way where it's like you're not like putting out like a fake version of yourself.

  • You like your I feel like you're very genuine.

  • You're very honest and humble, and you put out yourself out there for people to see.

  • But it's nothing.

  • It's like it's on the Internet, still performing.

  • In a way, it's me.

  • But you're seeing me at, like my best when I'm doing my thing and I'm in my zone and I'm performing for you to entertain for you.

  • But it's It's that secret that you kind of need to, like, Turn off the light.

  • Okay, that's that's one version of me.

  • Now I need to go back and be the other version of me.

  • Yeah, it's been it's been nice in recent years to be a little more open with some of my challenges.

  • Yeah, you know, like mental health stuff.

  • You know, the things that I had to struggle with because then it gives me permission.

  • I feel to not always have to be at my best time, but it is still an element of feeling.

  • Like you want to be your best for this people.

  • So I guess might turning off honestly is at home with my wife when I get to go out with my friends and, you know, get a margarita and just catch up on life.

  • Good.

  • Margarita is the best thing l.

  • A has taught me you had margaritas.

  • Margaritas in l A pretty great.

  • And, uh, I've learned to be better.

  • My my wife is a kind of sewer.

  • Um, as if you couldn't tell.

  • I follow her lead in a lot of ways.

  • She's much smarter than I am in a lot of ways.

  • Um but, uh, bso turning off his meaning when I'm with friends, uh, and quietly playing a game.

  • This is my I'm a little more not a big social, like go out and party guy go dancing.

  • But you tweeted at something a while back that camera one over there sometime this year that I really related a lot to you said you were out like a parody with all these other like, high end people.

  • And they were all smoothing and rubbing shoulders everything.

  • And I feel like.

  • And like I've been at that party, I know what that's like.

  • Or like, I want to mingle with people.

  • But I just I don't align with you like mentally.

  • I can't get in that space.

  • Where am I?

  • I have to get up and talk about business or anything.

  • I just shoot the shit and have fun.

  • Yeah, Um, man, I get it.

  • But I I think I tweeted back to you that that was, like, a good, uh, like balance board for your personality.

  • I think that it shows that because you don't do that, it's like you're just more of yourself.

  • You're not.

  • You can't just flick it on to be a douche when you need to be.

  • Oh, yeah.

  • Although I mean, it doesn't necessarily make for the most successful career in entertainment.

  • Sure, I don't care.

  • You know, I'd rather be moderately or hopefully It's some degree of successful and just be myself and have to turn into something I'm not.

  • Yeah.

  • In order to make it happen.

  • Yeah.

  • Don't get me wrong.

  • I also critic to prove a point.

  • Oh, Chef.

  • But let's compare notes.

  • I'll show you my various marks.

  • Now what do you What do you think then?

  • Cause doing that kind of stuff?

  • That's a lot of pressure, cause I have my own pressures doing what I do.

  • But I feel like I don't have $11 million type of pressure on like you guys think is like turn into such a big phenomenon.

  • It's like the DND thing now.

  • Unexpectedly.

  • Yeah, but you know, Dante was very important to growing up is still very important to me.

  • Like it got me out of my shell as a kid who got me into theater.

  • It went from this really quite artist kid, too, you know, being able to function socially to a certain degree because I would play this game growing up.

  • And so to see it re embraced by society and flourishing in a way it really hasn't in a long time.

  • It's been really cool to be any part of that's been huge, but it is a lot of pressure.

  • Yeah, he's ever make you anxious.

  • Yeah, yeah.

  • Um, because there's expectations around it.

  • Yeah.

  • Plus, whenever anyone is successful in a space, a couple of things happened.

  • One.

  • A lot of people that normally wouldn't give a shit or really care about who you are begin to come out of the woodwork.

  • This is how they can ingratiate themselves or find their way in, and so it can get very defensive and kind of like, you know, circle the wagons and, yeah, hold them off and you get people that get very verbally aggressive about trying to tear you down, because one, it's a way to get attention for themselves.

  • And it's also a way to whenever he whenever you're in the spotlight, there's always a reaction socially to wanna tear down whoever's in the spotlight.

  • Yeah, and some people for valid points and for valid feelings.

  • But it's also very hard when you're just generally sensitive person to put yourself on a very public scale online and open yourself up to that type of negativity.

  • Yeah, it's it's full on because it's a thing Where I'm very involves my community and I love my community, and there's super nice and very communicative, very involved in what I do in the 90% of the time.

  • Everything is great, but it's it's a thing where I'm a huge people pleaser and I really want everyone to be having a good time, which is impossible.

  • Not no one's ever gonna like I could say, I I said that, like, Jesus himself could probably come back today.

  • And some people were like, Fuck you, man.

  • Yeah, like that.

  • You could cure cancer, and they'd be somebody out there being like, No, I don't I don't like it not to say that I'm gonna fucking cure cancer or anything, but we need to do the people be waiting.

  • Oh, that's over, you bitches, then But it's the thing is like when you want to be involved, you can shut out one side of it and just Well, then you end up with an echo chamber.

  • But it's just so hard to like, screen some stuff.

  • And then if you're not in the right head space for a day and then read nice things and then suddenly one person's like man, I didn't like that because it felt like X y Z is like, How did you know?

  • How did you figure it out either?

  • Everything.

  • How did you get me?

  • Yeah.

  • Then it just ruins my whole day and then you have to get back up in the horse and go again the next day.

  • I think I don't even know how people had to verbalize that out to people.

  • Unless you're in that position, you can't really understand it.

  • It's strange, and I don't know.

  • I'm thankful for it in a lot of ways, in a weird way, Um, for having this, you know, community around May.

  • It's taught me a lot of learned from so many different perspectives and tried to be a a positive force as best as I can as well.

  • But, like you said, you can't please everybody and as a person who, well, it's always put himself lowest on the priority list.

  • You know, it's a hard reality to come to the point that anything you do, it's gonna piss somebody off.

  • Yep, and you just I'm learning.

  • I'm trying to learn to be better about that.

  • Just accepted.

  • Let it wash over you, you know, listen to the positive criticism.

  • You know, the people that are honestly tryingto help you improve and be able to distinguish that from what is toxic criticism.

  • Let's move forward.

  • And I think the big big thing I'm learning is not necessarily in engaged or try and defend or try and and verbalize anything like that and just kind of show with your actions.

  • You know, if you really want to be a better person, to be about a good example, to just do better.

  • Yeah, no, it's it's greater voice because that's something that I've always gotten into discussions with people about like, Well, no, I did this because of this.

  • And then they're like, Yeah, but this other thing happen, and then you try and expand The more I've tried to explain, sometimes the worse it gets.

  • Yeah, or I could never get my thoughts across property or my actions.

  • And there's just a lot of world politics that end up happening.

  • So I've definitely been learning more of that to just be like, No, people are going gonna say shit anyway, who really cares?

  • Life life's too short to have these moments where I'm like sitting down.

  • Had it recently with some friends back in Brighton was like sitting down.

  • We're looking at the stars.

  • I was like, and you know, it really doesn't matter what that 12 year old said on the Internet, does it?

  • I really mean nothing in the grand scheme of all of this.

  • Yeah, it's an important perspective.

  • Tohave.

  • Yeah, um, really bring my only ego down to size.

  • And have you read that moment where, like, sometimes you're out, somebody comes up like, hey, air, you, Matt, Can I get a picture?

  • Whatever.

  • And then sometimes something comes up and it's the same kind of cadence.

  • Everything's like, Hey, and you turn around and you're like, Sure, and then they're like, You're in my spot.

  • I had a horse like in line and, like, two people came up and then two more people came up and got pictures in the third person was like, Hey, do you mind if I turn around?

  • Was like, Yeah, and then they're like, Do you mind if I could've had because you kind of got ahead of me and was like, There's reality hitting wet fish in the face.

  • It's an important little little run to be knocked down.

  • Yeah, I think if I that happened, like once or twice, I'm still getting used to it.

  • You're You're much more visual, visually recognizable person, I guess.

  • Um, just because of your media presence, um, I've only in recent years been kind of in that space.

  • One of things I like about voiceover to begin with was that this was an anonymous thing could hide behind it.

  • Nobody really knew much, would would care who I was or what it looked like.

  • It was just about the work that I put out there.

  • That was kind of a weird position to be in the transition to doing more online media and doing a show that ended up kind of in many ways, uh, in many ways eclipsing the stuff I did for voice over and now being recognized in public spaces and gave under the just past weekend in Sweden at one day to actually go and see the city.

  • And I think at least 12 people recognize me out there in the middle of a foreign country damn four of which were in the main palace like the Royal Castle.

  • She is historical landmark, and I'm like, Oh, this is this is a museum No one's gonna for the employees And I was like, This is crazy and it's it's wonderful, you know, And everyone's been very sweet.

  • I'm very thankful that it that our community tends be very respectful, You know?

  • Not like that.

  • There's the guy from the thing.

  • Come over.

  • Yeah.

  • Jimmy, get your camera.

  • Come over.

  • Yeah.

  • We'll take a picture with my kid.

  • Yeah, your face to my kid.

  • Like it's nothing like that.

  • I was been very, very sweet.

  • Um, British.

  • It's very It's very surreal.

  • Shouldn't now begin to realize that I gotta be careful about picking my nose, you know?

  • Oh, yeah, scratching my ass in public because this might be somebody off to the side.

  • It was weird because that's not the picking nose thing, but that the dad with the kid literally happened at two bit circus recently.

  • You didn't really meet my girlfriend, were there were, like, walking around in.

  • A bunch of people came up.

  • We got pictures of everything, and it was great.

  • But then there's one.

  • We sat there like put money just into the machine to, like, do the game.

  • It was like five rounds of it was like that spy game.

  • We have to find someone in the crowd and shooting.

  • And some guy came over right, As you put it in, he was like a get a picture with my kid and I was like, I just started the game.

  • I'm so sorry.

  • And I hate being that guy who's like I'm playing something.

  • I can't be that person even though it's well within my right to be like I just started eating.

  • Yeah, but I'm always a person who's like, Sure, I like white my face and get up and be like my dive crumbs on my face Every time someone recognized me at a restaurant I'm always like How does how does it?

  • How do humans eat?

  • Isn't fortunes?

  • There isn't five.

  • How is how do we eat food?

  • I'm always paranoid about it.

  • Act like a person.

  • It's a robot.

  • It's a weird, unique space to be in, um, especially just being being a person who has, you know, anxiety and in many ways, a lot of self esteem issues to be in the space like that.

  • Um, but, you know, people talk about fame, and you know, I have this attention to be the great thing, and yeah, it's not something I ever wanted.

  • I'm not sure it's something I particularly enjoy, but I'm appreciative that I have a platform where hopefully I can make a difference Yeah, and that's where it's okay, you know, kind of endure it.

  • Yeah, anything I feel like.

  • I think I think we kind of a line with that because it's one of those things that some of the aspects that come with it are hard and difficult to overcome In it, it really does.

  • If you let, it will just change your DNA completely.

  • That's why some people turn out to be assholes when fame gets them.

  • That old adage, Boyd.

  • If I always talked about it being like a prism as well, I feel like if you're a good person before fame hits you, I feel like it'll just exemplify all your good trade because again, now you have a platform to be able to do good things, right?

  • Right.

  • You were the awkward kid playing D and D and back back in those days.

  • DND was not what it is now.

  • Everything's like nerd culture is super cool all of a sudden and comic book movies, they're the biggest thing in the world.

  • It's it's nice to be able to bring people into that circle be like, No, I was just like you.

  • That's why I like doing these talks as well, because it really humanizes people.

  • It strips down to facade, and it's just like, yeah, we're just people who like the thing.

  • And then we ended up doing it for awhile, and yeah, people listened.

  • And now we're here doing this.

  • Well, it kinda helps.

  • Do This is kind of a casual outdoor space, too.

  • Yeah, like studio lights air.

  • You know Mike Flynn.

  • Stick to your face.

  • Yeah, for producers in the back.

  • Like hushing.

  • Like we take that again.

  • Yeah.

  • Different side makeup.

  • You know, bring it up on the screen.

  • Right?

  • Exactly.

  • Uh, so, talking about your net worth, that's the funniest thing is to look up net worth of different celebrities.

  • Yeah, like I think.

  • Was it someone looked it up?

  • It's like, Oh, my God, I'm so proud of you for for, you know, making this.

  • And I looked it up.

  • It was like, like, millions of dollars, like, Oh, this is really wrong, guys.

  • Yeah, I'm flattered, but none of those networth calculators of are all accurate.

  • And, you know, I always find it funny because there was one last year of, like, the top 10 earning youtubers.

  • I think I ranked eight or nine on it, and then they were like he made $16 million in 2018 and I was like, No, I didn't.

  • I wish I made $60 million in one year.

  • Your lawyer's on the phone and audit.

  • Some people chase, but they take it from like, Well, he has this clothing company.

  • And then he also has his own merchant.

  • That makes X y Z, And I was like, But I don't make any money off my merch because it all goes to charity.

  • They're just throws the whole thing out of whack.

  • Yeah, you way off?

  • Weird.

  • But then I I find it funny because there's some people who will do that, who are like it didn't and the others who were like, Yes, yes, I did.

  • I got $400 million.

  • That is kind of kind of showing, too.

  • I guess you know your cards on the table.

  • Depending on how you reacted, that sort of a prison go up to somebody and be like you made $10 million last year.

  • Like, thank you.

  • Oh, man.

  • But not every time I talk about this stuff makes me sound like I'm ungrateful for because I always talked about the weird parents of it, right?

  • Right.

  • But for the most part, it's fantastic.

  • Like we get to do these things.

  • I get to meet awesome people like, you know, I know point.

  • Do I want anyone?

  • Never think that I'm not grateful for any of this.

  • Yes, I'm I'm still dumbfounded by it, to be perfectly honest, you know, to stumble into this weird career path, but it, But I'm very thankful.

  • I'm just also also very aware of my mental health through the process.

  • World wind.

  • Yeah, on anybody who's out there who's starting off doing anything like this, who ends up getting any sort of flake foothold in like mental health is first because it's so easy to just get absorbed by it.

  • And then what I realize is that for years, and I was doing it, everything's going great.

  • Everything's booming, everything is growing.

  • But then, like three or four years in, you realize that all of that stuff has kind of changed you without your realizing it's changed you.

  • And then you react to certain things different ways and you don't you don't get used to a certain level of like when I go out, I'm expecting people to know who I am.

  • You don't turn into that guy.

  • Yeah, or let it get to a point where you just don't know who you are anymore.

  • But I don't think you have to worry about that.

  • I think you're very grounded in very home boot.

  • Hopefully, for now, we'll see how the years take on me.

  • But I'll tell you one thing, um, me and my wife should definitely try not to go out.

  • And you know it.

  • 10 p.m. To pick up Boston market in our pajamas.

  • Because that's every time we do that, that's we run into people that want to get a We're just, like, greasy, just like a home, you know, home body monstrosity.

  • Just like just trying to go out there and pick up some chicken, you know, and some things like we get a picture like that.

  • What?

  • Okay, Sure.

  • It's, uh I don't I don't person Well, e don't mouth good.

  • Know something?

  • Something I always like asking people because every everyone you always get the questions was like, How did you start voice acting?

  • And it's always like stay with me is like everyone to know how you started YouTube because they're hoping that one time you say it will be something in there that you add extras like That's what it wants, right?

  • Instead of being like, No, I just like doing it and I did it a lot, and then I got better at it and I worked my ass off a little bit lucky doing it.

  • But for what I like, asking people is like, What's what keeps you going while you do it?

  • What's what's the phone in it for you?

  • Like, what's the What's the goal and the objective, and what keeps you taken part of it for for Veal, for me is that I grew up loving video games and cartoons, and that form of kind of storytelling to me just had a huge impact on me and, uh, to be a part of that engine to be just a part of that tapestry for these stories.

  • It's very exciting for me, the idea and in some cases, franchises I grew up with, you know, games that defined me, you know, uh, to be to be even small, small part in that is really, really cool honor and like a nerd, full circle for myself.

  • Yeah, um, so that's part of it.

  • A second is just I really enjoy stepping into the shoes of somebody I'm not.

  • Sometimes I don't know.

  • It sounded like a discomfort for myself or because there's a new excitement and interest in other people.

  • Maybe a little calm, a little calling B.

  • But there's something about putting yourself in the mindset of somebody that's very different from you and living in that space that you learned something about yourself.

  • And also, hopefully, have other people learn a little bit about that person's perspective, villain or hero or anywhere in between.

  • Yeah, you know, even the most archetypal games that you know have the most defined of black and white good versus evil scenario.

  • There's still an option or inability to empathize with a certain part of the story and gonna learn about a person you want to be.

  • And I know growing up there were numerous video games and video game characters that I looked up to where I wanted to be more like and subconsciously modeled my own morality and sends himself off, you know, now I get to go to these conventions and get to meet all these young kids who are playing these games and are going, you know, I love this character, you know, I really appreciate them.

  • I imagine myself wanting to be like them, and so getting to be kind of the next wave of that cycle is really cool.

  • And I think I think that's what gets me going more than anything.

  • I love the artistry of it.

  • I love the performing, Um, but I also love the fact that I get to to bring these stories to life for those kids, those gamers.

  • For those people that might take the same importance from it that I did growing up.

  • Do you?

  • Do you have a favorite character?

  • Well, maybe it's a different answer for both, but do you have, Ah, a favorite character that you've done?

  • And do you have a character who is most like you?

  • Sometimes it's not always the same answer.

  • No, definitely not the same.

  • Answer the cure to this most like me.

  • I would say Bobbie Leon Kennedy, Oh, resident evil just cause both kind of Boy Scout e and like you know, you always wanted to do the right thing, even was not the smartest thing.

  • Um, uh, he's a lot cooler than I am, but this far is just like that That need Thio Do what it takes to help others.

  • Yeah, I very much resonate with and you don't get that protagonist type very often these days, people like Thio one arm or in the anti hero, The star key things that way.

  • Occasionally you get a couple of good guys out there like true good guys.

  • Yeah, Um, my favorite character.

  • It's a you're gonna break a lot of people's hurt.

  • I know.

  • I know.

  • It's tough.

  • It's a diplomatic.

  • I'm gonna go.

  • Oh, man, There are so many game characters that I appreciate like their games like Overwatch that were just so huge.

  • And McCree was so great.

  • But like for me personally, their their their narrative story and where they went.

  • There's an anime and years ago called Faith 00 that's based on the feet.

  • The fate state Siri's and, uh, my care during that could eat.

  • Samia is just a phenomenally strange and morally ruined individual.

  • In a lot of ways.

  • He's this assassin character who's the protagonist, Siri's.

  • There was not a good guy by any means.

  • Yeah, very much an ends justify the means type for the best of humanity from his perspective, then learned through his story that maybe even that's not the right way to do things.

  • Yeah, and he's just He's cutthroat.

  • He's calculating.

  • He seems to have a heart, and he acts seemingly from that position.

  • But then you question it often throughout and just being able to toe work through that narrative and work through his personal journey and having everything fall apart around him and how that affects him and how he tries to salvage his impact in the world through it.

  • Yeah, just, I don't know.

  • That show left an impact on me as a performer.

  • Yeah, and, uh, to this day, I'm still super proud of it.

  • That's awesome.

  • Do you think you learned a lot from doing that kind of character about yourself?

  • I think I did.

  • I think I learned a lot about what it means to be a hero, which mean s not does not necessarily mean being like him, you know, a lot of times I enjoy these roles as a contrast as well.

  • You know, that's why I love playing villains.

  • Yeah, in a lot of projects is it's always interesting and delicious and different.

  • But also for this immense, my ability to feel good about not being that, you know, you're like, man, you know, finish the session and feel icky.

  • You have to take a shower afterward and be like I'm glad I feel uncomfortable.

  • Netscape.

  • Yeah, and I think I mean, I if I I've done very tiny voice acting kind of stuff, but it's always like the stuff that you you're not.

  • That's always the most fun for me to do.

  • Yeah, because, like you said, it's like stepping into someone else's skin and being like, I could just be cartoony with this and I can go ham and I can just be ridiculous.

  • Whereas other stuff that's more like me, I get self conscious because I'm like, um, I really like this.

  • I have to say that that's if I could just howl at the moon and let it go when that was the same.

  • Like doing the dead pool thing at Pax.

  • I think it's just putting on a mask, but I still like walk the same.

  • I'm still me underneath everything, but it's still just an excuse to go around and be like Hey, dickhead, because that pool would say that, Yeah, I called a group of guys versions on They all load that knows that man.

  • That's for I want to do more of that.

  • My wife actually co wrote a show that talked about dentals, a character kind of what he means in Web media.

  • And the the analysis think they came to was the dead Pool.

  • The reason.

  • It's such an interesting character, the popular one isn't some lens that much.

  • Like you said, Fame does really accentuates who you are.

  • You know where you can still be playful and still be kind of a weird dick.

  • But people that love deadpool because he's an asshole, probably assholes.

  • People don't like him because he's strange, breaks the fourth wall and kind of you know, bends the medium and looks for the other alternative means of him.

  • They're fun.

  • They're a little more that way as well.

  • Yeah, it's an interesting is one of those characters that the reason that somebody really enjoys it sometimes can be a reflection of of who they are, Yeah, on the inside.

  • So, like that is fun because you get to explore an aspect of yourself that you don't get to normally.

  • But in a way that's still fun.

  • And, you know, in the space of people that can appreciate it, Yeah, yeah, cause talking, talking about that like relatability factor and everything.

  • I think that's a Spider Man's my favorite.

  • He's He's always been the superhero that I could most relate to.

  • I think a lot of people can.

  • No one knows what it's like to be a billionaire detective who lost their parents or from a different planet, and you're allergic to green or anything like that.

  • But Spider Man's like he's just a kid who got powers and then you have to deal with it.

  • He lost someone, and yeah, it's always fascinating to me, and I think Deadpool like that as well.

  • I was like, because it's all it's like cancer, destroying his brain rebuilding.

  • And he's going slightly crazy and mad and whatnot.

  • But it's still that, like mental health struggle, where you're like battling your own mind all the time, he slashes out.

  • He makes fun of things because he's uncomfortable, and I think everyone can kind of relate to that aspect themselves known.

  • Then Let's Spiderman's active talking thing for people debate like remains a bully and kind of like the second set of Sony's Spider Man films.

  • I didn't appreciate so much because Spiderman Garfield Garfield Yeah, because I mean, the Spider Man was okay.

  • But like it sometimes it felt a little bullish.

  • Yeah, to me, Um, if you read the comics, he better man talks out of nervousness.

  • You know, it's almost like the more tense something is, the more he begins to jabber because just his reaction to that nervous energy.

  • Yeah, that's why I think Tom Holland really gets well in more recent films.

  • Yeah, yeah, those Spider Man movies really rubbed me the wrong way because there's no relatability to with them when he's like he's just a dick kind of just the second day and and I get hurt.

  • Our bill is a fine actor, but Peter Parker was, too.

  • Yeah, you know, like there's nothing really to lose.

  • There's no I wasn't cool when I was a teenager.

  • I like I like being goofy.

  • That's why that the Spiderman game was Yuri doing the voice.

  • Oh, and that it was like there's, like, a scene where he texts M.

  • J.

  • But he says the wrong thing or something.

  • Oh, no.

  • And he's like, stop Web swinging to correct his text to a girl.

  • And I was like, Man has the most relatable a superhero has been to me.

  • I remember being a teenager and sending the wrong text.

  • Me.

  • I'm never gonna get to kiss that girl.

  • Yeah, something like that.

  • Letterman's pretty relatable.

  • I I think the one that I related to most was nightcrawler.

  • I calls it a good one was my He was my favorite, I think, because he was somebody who looked so different from everyone around him.

  • And everyone immediately judged him based on that one immediately ostracised or yelled at or was aggressive with him because he looked like a demon.

  • Yeah, and in spite of that, he was still a very, very good person, you know?

  • He could have left it to find him.

  • He could love that experience.

  • Turn him into you haven't embrace what he looks like.

  • Yeah, instead, he was just a very good dude, you know, he stuck to his faith.

  • And he was there for his friends.

  • And he was happy go lucky and fun.

  • But he was kind of one of the stronger moral compass is of the X Men too.

  • Yeah.

  • And, uh, well, I myself don't you describe Thio Religious faith I really respected kind of him being such a faith based figure and what religion meant to him in the series to me, help me understand better.

  • What importance is between faith and religion in that difference there.

  • No.

  • I see faith is such a very important thing for a lot of people.

  • In a wonderful thing, religion as a structure is a societal structure.

  • Is consecrates a lot of social problem.

  • Yeah, but it ain't night car was No one cares That always spoke to me to that degree.

  • And I think one of the hardest times have cried in recent years was discovering that they had killed him in the comics, like seven years ago.

  • He's back in because it's more of old, ah, character forever.

  • But, um, I remember finding that out.

  • And for whatever reason, I don't know if I was just feeling raw that day or I don't know, but like a soon as I found out I wouldn't grab the comic and read the pages and then, just, like, broke down a grown man just like solving over a fictional comic character.

  • But you know what, David?

  • That's who I am.

  • Yeah, no shame in that at all.

  • No, I play video games on my channel.

  • I cried over a giant feathered chicken dog and last guardian, I cried over Leah, the walking dead at the end of the first seizure like man.

  • But that's that's the beauty of it.

  • That's why you shouted with Colossus my favorite game of all time because it was the first game that made me cry.

  • The ending of that was like the ambiguity of it in the moral, like questioning.

  • I was like, I was was I had Dick was either about every boss kill.

  • Yeah, there's something deep inside you, something that was very tribally human going.

  • Why am I doing?

  • I was like, It's a video game supposed to climb it and kill it.

  • That's what I'm supposed to do.

  • It's a level I gotta I gotta defeated.

  • And then halfway through, you're like, Oh, feel good, Mr Stark, I need Thio.

  • Just sit down and I was like, 15 16 years old because I I did it in my life show as well, Like people got up and played it with me.

  • Yeah, just to have that thing.

  • And we named the Colossus after because I talked about Let's talk about my show or anything, but he's in the middle of the whole show was talking about, like childhood, teenage hood and adulthood and the different phases and childhood was all about Pokemon because I was the first game on my game, Boy that I had people get up and played that and they fought Gary and had, like, six Pokemon that were called Laziness and boredom and fear overcome those.

  • But then my teenage years were my darkest time because I just know I WASI was trying to figure shit out.

  • And then that game came to me and I had no idea what it was.

  • I found that in game stop, and I just played it.

  • I was like, I like giant monsters.

  • I'll play this game.

  • I brought it home and it floored me.

  • I I didn't even realize because it's that thing where you the whole time of today is like a video game.

  • You have a level, you beat it, you're done.

  • You move on.

  • But then this time I played and I was like, Holy fuck, I'm sad.

  • This made me feel terrible.

  • I cried playing this game, and I don't know what the ending was and what it all meant and just fascinated me.

  • And that's whenever people like video games are curtain, which, thankfully, is going away now.

  • But it's those types of things like video games cause violence and shit, like maybe crying.

  • My bedroom is a 16 year old.

  • Yeah, Klaus violent for parenting causes by Yeah, parenting and behavioral patterns and accessibility to certain things.

  • That's what's fucking things up.

  • But that was the thing we're like completely changed my concept of what games were, and I think that's where I think that's the linchpin of why I do what I do now.

  • I do games and wanted to reach out, see if other people like games as much as I did, because back then it was like, Yeah, Penny came for a week, and then I won't play games for a year kind of thing.

  • But that sucked me in and never let go.

  • Yeah, it's always been my favorite game ever since it's a good it's a good choice on that one.

  • That one.

  • That one hasn't still with me.

  • The fear of any game that gives me an animal.

  • Yeah, like I'm like, Okay, okay.

  • You're you're gonna shout of the classes.

  • Me on this coming up the cliff.

  • No, no, no.

  • You see your horse in the game Not say I remember.

  • Yeah, it's true.

  • But that point to, um I'm a big proponent for storytelling in the power of storytelling.

  • Yeah, regardless of media.

  • But video games interactive medium is so important.

  • Bites I think it's so popular.

  • Has continued to grow is it's supposed to a story that's presented that you get to experience.

  • It's one that you get to help, that it becomes your own experience and that it's a different degrees, depending on the genre.

  • Yeah, but I think the video games that strive to be art the ones that can ask you questions like that.

  • Like, are you the good guy?

  • You know?

  • Are this breaking the genre and going?

  • Maybe you need to reconsider what it means to be a hero in a world.

  • Yeah, even if you should be a hero in general, if there even is a hero, there even is a hero.

  • Yeah, you know, or in the case of Kojima, sometimes just copy.

  • Yes.

  • Sometimes you just gotta bring a baby somewhere.

  • Yeah, be all over the place.

  • But like, But But to that degree, I as as it becomes more respected as an art form as people begin to realize that not every successful game has to be a triple A blockbuster $100 million budget plus, yeah, you know, I think a lot of indie games have really proven that you can tell evocative, important stories on profoundly affect people.

  • Yeah, and be successful.

  • I think we're going to start seeing more and more people that push the boundaries of what games conduce Farrah storytelling and it involved people on that excites me to no end.

  • I'm so stoked to see this this new generation of kids that grew up with, like, under tail, you know, as as their inspiration point to then go into school for game development and story writing and come out here and start really telling fucking great unique new stories.

  • Yeah, yeah, because what you were saying that, like Celeste came to mind?

  • Because that's not only a mechanically flawless game, it might not be for everybody might not be your cup of tea, but like, you can't fault the game for what it is.

  • But it also tells a great story about mental health and struggles and overcoming your obstacles and things like that.

  • And that's that's an indie game and was made by a very small t.

  • Yeah, and then they won awards out of it.

  • Then you're something like Battlefield five, which is, like, liquid shit that it has a huge budget on.

  • No one likes, you know, and I don't talk so much shit because occasionally I make a paycheck off games like that.

  • But But those air making a paycheck?

  • Where you going?

  • Battlefield five.

  • But I've definitely been a number of those those extended multi sequel over the years, and I've screamed my way raw and many a call of duty.

  • Game.

  • Yeah, and some of them are great.

  • Some of them are another call of duty game.

  • Yeah, you know, and I Yeah, I hope.

  • I hope that is we start seeing more indie games, succeed and win awards and be successful 11 part means, like, Well, I hope the bigger publishers will begin to notice that their heart means, like, I like the idea that we're moving away from a model where we don't even published.

  • Yeah, they can keep making their giant triple A games, and that's great.

  • Yeah, but, uh, the more and more that we continue and realize that model doesn't work for most of the really good stories to make their way to the market, we have no steam has been supporting an

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