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  • Hey, TechLead here,

    嗨,我是TechLead

  • and welcome back to another episode of the ex-Google,

    歡迎回到新的一集

  • ex-Facebook TechLead.

    「前Google、前Facebook工程師 -TechLead」系列

  • We are in New York today.

    我們今天在紐約

  • And I wanted to talk today about some of my learnings in getting fired from Facebook,

    然後我今天想要談一談我被Facebook辭退後所學到的一些東西

  • kind of follow up on my last video and

    跟我上一個影片有點關聯

  • first of all, also, I want to thank everybody for all of your kind words,

    首先,我也想要謝謝大家的安慰

  • you know, I have never been fired in my life before and

    你知道,我人生中從來沒有被開除過

  • I've seen people get fired, throughout my career,

    在我的職涯裡,我有看過他人被開除

  • I've seen people just disappear.

    我有看過人們就那樣消失了

  • And I never quite thought that that would happen to me.

    而我從來沒想過那會發生在我身上

  • So I wanted to kind of explain that if this does ever happen to you,

    所以我想要說明一下,如果這樣的事情發生在你身上

  • and it may,

    因為是有可能的

  • what some of my learnings were and

    分享我所學到的是什麼

  • my takeaways from that.

    還有一些重點

  • You know, first of all, I think that getting fired is more of a mental state.

    首先,我覺得被開除其實造成更多心理層面的影響

  • It is a disgrace,

    它是恥辱

  • it is shameful.

    是很丟臉的

  • In reality, it may not actually be that bad, right?

    事實上,可能不會那麼糟,對嗎?

  • It's kind of like in the military, the difference between just leaving it

    就好像在軍隊裡,差別只是你是自己離開

  • and a dishonorable discharge.

    還是被開除軍籍

  • It's all the same in the end, really,

    最終它們都一樣,真的

  • like the result's about the same.

    像是結果都差不多

  • I could have easily just as well left the company

    我本來可以很簡單的

  • of my own voluntary accord, and

    ˋ自願離職

  • the result would pretty much be the same.

    那樣的結果會差不多

  • It's just that when you get fired,

    只是當你是被開除的時候

  • there's a lot of mental shame and guilt,

    你心裡所感受到的羞恥跟罪惡感會大得多

  • the way your former coworkers may treat you,

    你前同事可能會對待你的方式

  • the way you leave -

    你所離開的方式

  • you don't get to say goodbye to anybody,

    你沒有辦法跟任何人道別

  • you just vanish.

    你就只是消失了

  • That part may kind of be disturbing.

    那個部分可能會有點擾人

  • So why am I talking about this?

    那為什麼我要講這個呢?

  • Because I want to bring some light to this topic,

    因為我想要讓這個主題見點光

  • something we don't talk about much in the tech industry,

    這是我們在科技產業不太常講的事

  • but it happens all the time.

    但它一直在發生

  • You constantly see people disappearing around you.

    你持續看到身邊的人消失

  • And, you know, it could be for a variety of reasons -

    然後,嗯、可能有各式各樣的原因

  • it could just be low performance,

    可能是因為績效差

  • it could be for the stupidest smallest reasons like

    可能會是因為一些愚蠢的小事

  • running a YouTube show, in my case.

    像是我的例子一樣-因為我有一個YouTube節目

  • And also, I'm just trying to monetize my getting fired.

    而且,我只是試著從開除這件事上賺錢

  • Hey, guys, I know that you guys are enjoying this video,

    嗨大家,我知道你們很喜歡這部影片

  • but I just wanted to mention quickly here that this video is brought to you by our friendly sponsor, SkillShare.

    但我想要很快地告訴大家,這部影片是由我們友善的贊助商SkillShare所支持製作的

  • SkillShare is an online learning community with thousands of classes on creative and entrepreneurial skills.

    SkillShare是有著數千堂跟創意、創業家能力相關課程的線上學習社群

  • Explore everything from web development, to entrepreneurship, marketing, productivity, and more.

    探討網頁開發、創業精神、行銷、生產力等等主題

  • Because SkillShare is sponsoring this video,

    因為SkillShare贊助了這部影片

  • I'm getting you all a free two month trial to SkillShare.

    所以我為你們爭取到使用SkillShare的2個月試用期

  • Check them out, link in the description below.

    去了解他們吧!連結在下面的敘述欄位裡

  • You know, it's funny that I always had this fantasy.

    你知道,我一直有個可笑的幻想

  • And maybe many of you do, too, that

    或許你們很多人也有的那種

  • if you were to ever get fired,

    就是如果哪天你被開除的時候

  • all of your coworkers, your friends would just rally around you

    你所有的同事跟朋友都會集結在你身旁

  • and support you and say that

    支持著你並告訴你

  • if you're being terminated,

    如果你要被辭退了

  • then they're going to quit too voluntarily.

    那他們也會自願離職

  • It just doesn't happen like that.

    但那樣的事並不會發生

  • And you like to think that you've got their backs

    而你覺得你很挺他們

  • and they've got your back

    他們也很挺你

  • and you're all in this together -

    你們是團結在一起的

  • it just doesn't quite work like that.

    但事情是不會這樣發展的

  • Everybody is, in reality, just scrambling to save their own jobs.

    每個人在現實中,只會拼命地確保有工作

  • And the truth is that people value their own jobs over their humanity.

    事實證明人們比起人性來說,更重視他們的工作

  • And that's why firing works.

    這就是為什麼開除這件事情存在

  • That's why people can just rip relationships and friendships apart at workplaces.

    這就是為什麼人們可以在職場上將關係與友誼分開

  • And nobody says a thing about it.

    而沒有人對質疑這件事

  • Nobody questions that.

    沒有人對這點有疑問

  • It's sad, really, right.

    這點很令人感到難過,對吧

  • You know, your coworkers who maybe you saw everyday,

    你可能每天都會看到的同事

  • you had morning conversations with your manager,

    早上一起交流對話的主管

  • who always said that they were supporting you,

    都會說他們一直支持你

  • that they seemed to care about you,

    他們看起來真的很在乎你

  • was all fake,

    這些都是假的

  • was just a pretend show for these people to keep their jobs and maintain their appearances.

    只是讓這些人保有他們的工作,並維持表象的一場戲

  • And you know, who knows,

    然而誰知道呢

  • but my general recommendation has always been to disengage from your coworkers.

    我一直以來的建議是,不要跟你的同事有太深的接觸

  • It's a place of exchange of your time for money,

    這是一個用你的時間換取金錢的地方

  • it can be as simple as that and

    可以就那麼簡單

  • if you were to look for anything deeper than that,

    如果你尋求再更深一層的東西

  • then just be aware that it could be built on a pretty weak foundation there.

    那就要意識到它可能是建築在一個很薄弱的基礎上

  • Nothing wrong with having some light conversations,

    有輕鬆的小交流並沒有錯

  • but to believe that these people would be your family

    但要相信這些人會變成像家人一般的存在

  • and that they've got your back?

    還要那麼挺你嗎?

  • I remember I was once working in a company with my brother,

    我記得有一次我跟我的兄弟在同一家公司工作

  • and we didn't like the environment.

    而我們不是很喜歡那個環境

  • So when I quit, he quit at the same time.

    所以當我辭職的時候,他也同樣跟進

  • That's family, that's people who have your back.

    那才是家人,會挺你到最後的人

  • Now another tip is data management.

    然後另一個訣竅是數據管理

  • If you feel that you may be losing your job soon,

    如果你覺得你可能快要失去你的工作了

  • maybe you're getting picked on that performance improvement plan,

    可能你開始在推進績效進步的計畫上被刁難

  • then you want to be careful about your data.

    那你可能就要多留心你的數據了

  • Make sure that you've downloaded your personal data,

    確保你已經下載所有個人數據

  • that you have backups of that,

    你可能已經有了備份資料

  • and that if you do happen to get called into HR,

    而如果你真的被人資找去

  • before you go to that meeting,

    在去那個會議之前

  • just make a quick backup of all of your data and information.

    趕快快速備份你所有的數據和資訊

  • Because they can take away your laptop at any moment,

    因為他們能夠隨時拿走你的筆電

  • like they did for me and

    像他們對我做的那樣

  • to this day, I still have not gotten back any of the photos that I have left on my work laptop.

    而直到今天,我還是沒有拿回我留在工作用電腦上的任何一張照片

  • You know all of that property is company property so

    你知道那些都是公司財產

  • having a clear separation of your personal stuff and your work stuff would be great advice.

    所以清楚區分你的私人東西和工作用的東西,是一個很好的建議

  • Health insurance is actually another good one to start thinking about.

    健康保險也是一個可以開始考量的事情

  • When I got terminated, I had a few days left to use up my health insurance.

    當我被辭退時,我還剩下幾天能夠利用我的健康保健

  • So I went ahead and did all of my medical exams and got glasses made,

    所以我就去把所有的健康檢查都做了,還配了眼鏡

  • I actually decided to continue my health insurance on Cobra,

    我其實決定要繼續在Cobra上的健康保險

  • which is $700 to $800 per month. Pretty expensive.

    每個月大概要$700-$800美金,還蠻貴的

  • I wasn't originally going to do that but you know, I just thought

    我其實本來沒有想要那樣做,但是我想說

  • Fine, I'll do it.

    好吧,我就決定這樣做了

  • And I think what this overall does is

    而我認為這整體來說

  • it helps bring some perspective into your life.

    在人生中帶來了一些觀念

  • Don't depend on your paycheck,

    不要依賴薪水

  • the social status,

    社會地位

  • or the workplace friendships you may have had there.

    或是你在職場上可能擁有的友誼

  • Because depending on these things will just make your getting fired all the more terrible for you.

    如果依賴那些東西,只會讓你被開除這件事對你來說更悲慘而已

  • You know, for me, it's not like I was living some upscale life spending 90% of my paycheck every single month,

    你知道我並沒有過著花掉我每個月90%薪水的高檔人生

  • having a bunch of friends and parties with my coworkers because

    或是跟交一大群同事朋友、開派對

  • if I were doing that, it would be pretty bad if I were to suddenly lose all of that.

    因為如果我那樣做了,當我突然失去了所有那些東西,就會非常慘

  • My entire lifestyle would change in that scenario.

    我整個生活方式在那個情境下就會被改變

  • For me, losing a job has almost no impact on my actual day to day life.

    對我來說,失去一份工作幾乎對我日常生活沒有任何的影響

  • Even the social stigma that you may normally feel is not quite there.

    甚至都感受不太到一般會出現的社會污名

  • It's not like I suddenly need to downgrade my lifestyle.

    因為我不會突然降低生活品質

  • It's not like I have to justify what happened to a bunch of people

    或是要向一大群人解釋到底發生什麼事

  • who may be looking down on me.

    何況可能還是一群可能會看低我的人

  • And you know, it's funny, right?

    而你知道,這真的很令人玩味

  • Maybe you thought that you were all on the same team.

    或許你覺得你們一直同在一艘船上

  • One team, one company, one dream.

    一個團隊、一個公司、一個夢想

  • Maybe you actually believed in the company mission,

    你可能真的相信公司的使命

  • shared that dream,

    共享那個夢想

  • put in those all nighters,

    熬了超多夜

  • gave up some of your personal life, your family life...

    放棄你的私人生活、家庭生活...

  • Maybe you sacrificed your own health,

    或許你犧牲了自己的健康

  • didn't go to the gym,

    沒有去健身房

  • let yourself get fat.

    還讓你自己變胖

  • So at times like this, it's good to just remind yourself -

    所以在這種時候,要提醒自己

  • a job is that exchange of your time for money. Nothing more.

    工作只是用你的時間換取金錢而已,沒有其他的了

  • Don't give anything more than that.

    不要給予超出這以上的東西

  • I know a lot of people actually who have been laid off.

    我知道有很多被辭退的人

  • Maybe they get fired, maybe they voluntarily quit.

    可能是被開除了,或是他們自願離職

  • And you want to make sure that whatever you have left at the end of the day

    而你想要確保最終你所留下的東西

  • is still something worthwhile that was a fair trade.

    是值得的,算是一場公平的交易

  • I think getting fired was sort of a social stigma that came up from the old days

    我想被開除會被社會污名化,是因為在以前的年代

  • when people used to hold on to their jobs for 10, 20, 30 years.

    人們都常會做一份工作長達10、20、30幾年

  • But these days in the tech industry, people are moving jobs like every two to three years anyway.

    但在現今的科技產業,人們本來就兩到三年就換工作

  • And that's largely because you still have your skills, that experience.

    而最主要是因為你還有技能跟經驗

  • And so thanks to everybody from the last video who reminded me that

    所以很感謝在上部影片提醒我的大家

  • it's true, I have not hit rock bottom.

    沒錯,我並沒有跌落谷底

  • I still have all of my skills.

    我仍然有我全部的技能

  • Right, right. Yeah.

    嗯嗯,沒錯

  • I mean, that's great and all

    我覺得那些都很棒

  • but for an affordable premium membership at less than $10 per month,

    但負擔得起、不到10塊美金的每月頂級會員費

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    讓你在SkillShare可以無限次的上來自各領域專家所開的高品質課程

  • to teach you their knowledge and help you live your best life.

    傳授他們知識並幫助你過更好的生活

  • You can explore classes in freelancing and entrepreneurship, web development, graphic design, UI, creative writing, and productivity.

    你可以探索像是自由接案者、創業家精神、網頁開發、平面設計、介面、創意寫作和生產力等等的課程

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    我特別推薦資深Microsoft開發者Christian Hellman ,所開的JavaScript開發套件訓練課程

  • in which he will teach you how to become a JavaScript expert with an in-depth guide.

    他會深度指導你如何變成一個JavaScript專家

  • So check them out - SkillShare, link in the description below, get two months free.

    所以去了解他們吧!SkillShare連結在下面的敘述欄,兩個月免費

  • Okay, so it seems like I didn't make it to 10 minutes so let's do some quick Q&A just to fill up the time,

    好,看起來我沒有拍到10分鐘,所以我們來進行一些問答來填滿時間吧

  • and I will show you some scenes of New York City while I'm here.

    我還會分享一些紐約的影像

  • So someone asks if I was actually fired because of the prior video about women in the workplace?

    有人問,我是否因為之前談論到職場女性的影片,所以才被開除的

  • No, I was not.

    不,並不是

  • I knew actually, that video was probably a little bit risky and

    我其實知道那部影片可能有點冒險

  • even though I had that concept in mind, I did not release it until after I was terminated.

    雖然我是這樣想啦,我直到被開除之後才發佈它

  • So I felt safe to just go ahead and push that one out.

    所以我覺得直接放出來也沒什麼關係

  • Some people actually wonder if this is related to the tech interview pro course that I run,

    有些人還想說是不是跟我教的科技面試課程有關

  • which by the way, check it out if you're interested in landing a job at

    剛好如果你有興趣要在

  • Facebook, Google, any of these top tier tech companies.

    Facebook、Google這些高端科技公司工作的話

  • I will help fast track your career,

    我會幫你快速檢視你的職涯

  • level that playing field for you such that you have as much information as anybody else

    為你公平賽局,讓你跟其他想要進去這些科技公司的人

  • trying to get a job in these tech companies.

    有著同樣充沛的資訊

  • And I think that if you know the skills,

    我想只要你懂這些技能

  • if you know your data structures and algorithms,

    你了解資訊架構跟演算法

  • if you can answer those questions,

    如果你能夠回答那些問題

  • and you know the behavior tips,

    並知道一些行為上的秘訣

  • then you should be good.

    那你應該沒問題

  • But that aside, HR actually asked me for a list of names of all the other tech YouTubers that I knew.

    順便一提,人資其實有問我,其他我所認識的科技YouTuber名單

  • I did not give that up.

    我並沒有給他

  • And that's a very scary thing.

    因為那是件很恐怖的事

  • But thereafter, anybody who is currently running a YouTube show, blog, podcast.

    但給任何有經營YouTube頻道、部落格、podcast的人,作為之後的參考

  • You know, it's just a classic case of HR being HR.

    你知道這只是身為人資常做的一件案例

  • And let me mention a little something here -

    讓我特別提出一件小事

  • I don't believe that being a YouTuber is anything special.

    我不認為當YouTuber有什麼特別的

  • I believe it's the future, I believe that, you know, I'm just a normal person.

    我相信這是未來趨勢,我相信我只是個普通的人

  • I'm just a normal software engineer.

    我只是一個普通的軟體工程師

  • I don't consider myself a YouTuber.

    我不覺得自己是一個YouTuber

  • I believe that in the future, in a few years,

    我相信在未來幾年之內

  • everybody will have a YouTube presence.

    大家都會在YouTube上出現

  • Right? It's just the direction of the digital space.

    對吧?這就是數位空間的方向

  • Video is becoming more prevalent,

    影片將會越來越普遍

  • just like how everybody may have a LinkedIn profile.

    就像是每個人可能都會有LinkedIn檔案一樣

  • It wouldn't be weird, if everybody were to have a YouTube profile as well,

    就算每個人都有YouTube檔案也不算奇怪吧

  • where they just upload their thoughts and ideas on whatever they're interested in.

    他們只是會上傳跟自身感興趣事物有關的一些想法跟點子

  • Having a company like Facebook fault you on that, I believe,

    像Facebook那樣的公司要因為這種事將你定罪

  • is just backwards and outdated thinking.

    我認為是一種退步的、不合時宜的想法

  • Some people wonder if my salary was actually 500K? And yeah, it was -

    有些人想問我的薪水是不是年薪500K美金?嗯,是的

  • it was even higher than that, actually.

    其實還更高

  • You know, you take a look at the base salary 220K,

    如果你看基本起薪220K

  • and then you add on all the other equity and bonuses,

    然後加上其他那些股票跟獎金

  • and you get to that level or even higher.

    你就會到達那個階層或更高

  • And I know that it sounds very high.

    我知道這聽起來超遙不可及

  • But this is why I recommend that everybody try to get into famous companies,

    但這就是為什麼我推薦大家嘗試進入有名的公司

  • because they can get your bills paid.

    因為他們可以提供很好的薪水

  • The compensation in these top tier tech companies is just higher than what,

    這些高端科技公司能夠給你的薪水

  • say, like a startup may pay you.

    比起像是新創能夠給你的,可是高多了

  • Primarily I think, because they have that equity portion,

    主要是因為他們有股票的比例

  • and also because they're Silicon Valley based where talent is very competitive, right,

    也因為他們在人才濟濟的矽谷

  • you're not going to get this sort of income if you're in like the Midwest or something like that,

    你不會在中西部那樣的地方獲得這樣的收入

  • which is why I recommend software engineers migrate to one of these tech hubs -

    這也就是我建議軟體工程師移居到那些科技據點

  • Silicon Valley, New York, Seattle, any of these large cities,

    矽谷、紐約、西雅圖,任何其中一個大城市

  • and then make it a long term goal to get into one of these top tier tech companies.

    然後將進入高端科技公司視為一個長期的目標

  • It may not happen overnight, but you know,

    它可能不是一夜之間的事情,但你知道

  • you can check out my program techinterviewpro.com

    你可以在techinterviewpro.com上參考我的課程

  • Some people wonder if I was fired, actually, because my performance was no good.

    有些人會想我是不是因為表現不好被開除的

  • And I don't think so, at least.

    至少我不這麼認為

  • My last half, I had the meets all for my level E6, which is pretty hard to do actually.

    我最後一段時間我需要達到E6的程度,事實上真的很不容易

  • The expectations are pretty high there.

    期望值是很高的

  • And you know, there's been a lot of churn, at least in my organization.

    而在我的組織裡有很多人陸陸續續離開

  • I moved teams at least like four times during the time I was there.

    我還在那裡的時候,我至少換了四次團隊

  • So it hasn't been the smoothest sailing. And, you know,

    所以不是很順,而且你知道

  • if I was really like, a stellar performer,

    如果我真的是什麼星級績效員工

  • then I would have named myself the senior tech lead or the director, which I'm not.

    我就會叫我自己資深技術長或是總監啦,而我不是

  • I'm just TechLead.

    我只是TechLead

  • Did we reach 10 minutes?

    我們有講到10分鐘了嗎?

  • I think we did.

    喔,好像有喔

  • Alright, see you next time then.

    好的,下次見囉

  • Bye.

    拜拜!

Hey, TechLead here,

嗨,我是TechLead

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