You know, just event after event.

Ah, to think that the Tonkin Gulf resolution had only two senators voting against it in the summer of 1965 and yet subsequent about that event shows it was, uh, up, up.

You know, it was a manufactured occasion.

It was just a And yet, you know, a, uh how many senators?

98 senators voted for it.

And some good men, not just reflexive anti communist cold warriors.

I think that shows you know how badly people could be gold.

They didn't realize that the government would systematically deceive and twist, misinform and questions reached reached an art under Kissinger and Nixon.

And with Agnew, it became not just that, but actually bullying the press, trying to attack the press.

And the next administration is a counter attack on the press.

Ah, which, of course, just steel.

The resolve off of depressed to tell more.

Nixon was hated.

Bye bye.

People in the in the media and he hated them.

And it was, ah, really sinister relationship with Johnson.

At least I think, uh, the vestigial liberalism of reporters and editors kept them with one hand behind their back.

But with with Nixon, it was just open season.

Um, and I think it's for better and worse.

The better is clear.

The worse is of course, uh, just the way in which the press can undermine ah president's authority because you say the president undermined it.

Well, President can give them hostage hostages to fortune sometimes.

But I feel that what President Carter, he was really just Yes, there a lot of lot of foul ups there, but that just that press atmosphere was so unrelentingly negative.

And, uh, it almost made him seem an illegitimate claimant to the White House.

And and, uh, and as we look back with by the comparison of the Reagan years wth e mult affair is scandals and and and absurdity of the Reagan years in Carter, there wasn't so much there that was so terrible.

But the quest, the press went at it with a vengeance.

So I think we have this permanently subversive force.

We have to recognize its potentially subversive the press, which has a great habit of just taking even a small story.

A Hamilton Jordan.

A name We don't even know who the hell was he?

But, I mean, how they would come back to that off Bert Lance, You know, I mean, they just worry it, worry it and worry it.

Uh, and ah, and ah, and also the press.

I mean, something been going on there to, um the, uh, status of reporters and journalists improved and their sense of their own importance improved.

And their senses of people of being the fourth Estate really quite grew and and in some in some institutions, I think it became a kind of vanity.

You know, a vanity of press power.

We're the ones who determine whether you're gonna be a president or not.

Ah, and you see this enacted now in these ridiculous television shows with a journalist shouted each other, you know, give out that they're over to dictators if there stretching their ignorance to meet the limits of the show.

I mean, that's just that's just press arrogance.