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  • LAURENCE MORONEY: Hi, everybody, and welcome

  • to TensorFlow World.

  • In this video, I have the privilege

  • to chat with Kemal El Moujahid.

  • KEMAL EL MOUJAHID: Hi.

  • LAURENCE MORONEY: And you are a director here at Google.

  • You've been talking.

  • And the keynote today all about community

  • and some of the great things that

  • are happening in community.

  • And I know you're fresh off, like, a trip around the world

  • right now.

  • KEMAL EL MOUJAHID: Yes.

  • LAURENCE MORONEY: We had a road show going on.

  • Could you tell us a bit about it?

  • KEMAL EL MOUJAHID: Yes, I'm very lucky.

  • This is one of the best part of my job

  • is to actually-- it is work for me to go and go

  • to these amazing places and meet with the community.

  • I had the privilege to go, amongst other places,

  • to Morocco, Ghana, Shanghai, and just

  • meet with the local communities and hear about what they

  • were building using TensorFlow.

  • And it was just incredible to hear the feedback.

  • Both the amazing things that--

  • the amazing use cases that they were coming up with--

  • things that we would have never imagined,

  • which is one of the beauty of working

  • on a platform like TensorFlow-- but also hear the feedback

  • and see how we can help organize the growth

  • because the communities have been growing so much.

  • It's global.

  • And so, how can we best help our community thrive?

  • LAURENCE MORONEY: So it's like, we hit every continent

  • in doing this, right?

  • And it primarily a listening tour.

  • KEMAL EL MOUJAHID: Yeah, so we had 11 events

  • across five continents.

  • And we heard so much feedback, which

  • really helped us think about how can we best help the community.

  • And it came down to three different things.

  • We want to help the community connect and discover

  • the rest of the community and see

  • what other people have been building

  • and share what they have been building.

  • I think also, we really want to help the community learn.

  • There's all these new wave of new developers and learners

  • who are new to ML and can contribute and want

  • to make sure to help them learn about machine

  • learning and TensorFlow.

  • And then we really want to help them contribute.

  • The community really wants to give back,

  • and there's some awesome mechanism to do that.

  • And so, we've been working on enabling those three things.

  • LAURENCE MORONEY: So then, for folks

  • who are watching this video who would really love to connect,

  • what ways can they connect?

  • How can they get involved in the community?

  • KEMAL EL MOUJAHID: Right, so the community has grown a lot.

  • I think now, we have passed 46 million downloads.

  • LAURENCE MORONEY: Wow.

  • KEMAL EL MOUJAHID: --2,100 contributors, and the community

  • is truly global.

  • This is something that we're really proud of.

  • And so, this is the reason why we wanted to organize something

  • like TensorFlow World.

  • We wanted an event that was really about the community

  • so that the community can come connect with each other

  • and discover what they were building.

  • And this process has actually started to happen organically.

  • The TensorFlow user groups, which

  • started appearing seven months ago,

  • and now we have 50 of them--

  • I think the largest one is in Korea with 46,000 users.

  • LAURENCE MORONEY: Wow, really?

  • KEMAL EL MOUJAHID: We have 15 in China.

  • And so, you know, chances are that, you know,

  • if you're watching this video, you

  • might not have a TensorFlow user group near where you live.

  • But there are TensorFlow users.

  • So if you're interested in creating such a user group,

  • we really want to help.

  • So that's one clear way that you can get in the community.

  • LAURENCE MORONEY: So like, one of the things

  • I've personally noticed is that, like, I'm

  • quite visible in the community between YouTube and teaching

  • classes.

  • So lots of people have reached out to me on LinkedIn.

  • And I see all these, like, little communities forming

  • of people helping each other, doing study groups,

  • and all of that kind of thing.

  • And you had mentioned that organic growth.

  • And I find that's really magical.

  • KEMAL EL MOUJAHID: That's really amazing.

  • And that's one of the things that

  • is most exciting about building a community like TensorFlow is,

  • you can see people interested in certain types of use cases

  • that you wouldn't have thought about, connecting with people

  • who are ML specialists.

  • And when that connection happens,

  • those amazing use cases are born.

  • And that's really something that we want to encourage.

  • LAURENCE MORONEY: So as well as individuals,

  • we also hear that businesses want to get involved

  • and enterprises want to get involved and learn

  • how they can use ML.

  • And I know there's some efforts in that space, too.

  • KEMAL EL MOUJAHID: Yeah, so we've

  • heard from businesses that, oh, we have this problem.

  • And we heard that it might be a good problem

  • to solve by with machine learning.

  • But we don't necessarily know where to start.

  • And on the other hand, we hear from partners who say,

  • well, you know, we're really good at machine learning,

  • and we love TensorFlow.

  • And you know, how you can you connect us with enterprises

  • who have those needs?

  • And so, that's why we launched the Trusted Partner Pilot

  • Program to help connect enterprises who have a business

  • problem that could be resolved with ML and TensorFlow

  • with partners who know how to do that.

  • LAURENCE MORONEY: And it's only just launched,

  • but I hear there's some success already.

  • KEMAL EL MOUJAHID: Yes, it's already just launched.

  • If you go on tensorflow.org, you can learn more about that.

  • But it's been some really interesting use

  • cases in the insurance industry and global met tech industry.

  • And again, if you're a business, and you're

  • interested in getting involved into ML,

  • I think there's this staggering statistic

  • that AI was going to add $13 trillion

  • to the global economy in the next 10 years.

  • LAURENCE MORONEY: Right.

  • KEMAL EL MOUJAHID: And right now, enterprises

  • are just starting their transition to machine learning.

  • So now is a really good time to start investing.

  • And if you need help, then you can reach out

  • to those trusted partners.

  • Also, another side of that, which we're excited about

  • is, if you're a partner yourself and you want to get visibility

  • and you want to help enterprises with their machine

  • learning needs with TensorFlow, then

  • you should totally reach out.

  • LAURENCE MORONEY: Cool.

  • So then, the second thing you mentioned

  • was, like, for people to learn.

  • So there's the folks who would love

  • to be part of these communities, but they're not there yet.

  • They don't-- they're not up to speed,

  • and they don't have the knowledge yet.

  • But we want to make that as easy as possible for them to learn.

  • So what's going on in that space?

  • KEMAL EL MOUJAHID: Right, so we've been investing

  • a lot, as you very well know.

  • LAURENCE MORONEY: A loaded question.

  • KEMAL EL MOUJAHID: Exactly.

  • On education material and especially with deploying

  • AI to just help onboard this new generation of machine learning

  • practitioners and make sure that, you know,

  • regardless of what their prior experience

  • with machine learning, they get to join the community

  • and contribute.

  • So we're really excited to see this new course launching,

  • and thank you, Laurence, for helping with that.

  • And we've really been inspired to see hundreds of thousands

  • of people just completing these courses

  • and then starting to apply machine

  • learning to real-life problems.

  • LAURENCE MORONEY: There's this, to me, this interesting thrust

  • going on, where there's all of this inspiration

  • about these things that you can do on the one hand

  • and then us trying to show people

  • that they can do it, as well.

  • There's no imposter syndrome.

  • People can learn.

  • People can do this for themselves.

  • And then, when these two things come together,

  • communities are formed.

  • Communities grow.

  • And then the magical stuff you've mentioned happens.

  • KEMAL EL MOUJAHID: Exactly.

  • I think there's-- you can get involved regardless of what

  • your prior experience on machine learning is--

  • again, because those tools are becoming so accessible, so

  • easy to use.

  • And there's so much educational content available.

  • We just launched our learn ML web page

  • on the website, which organizes all these educational materials

  • for you.

  • And it's organized by level.

  • So you could start with beginner or advanced right away.

  • And then it's all organized.

  • You can see the videos and the books

  • and the tutorials, which lead you

  • to being able to apply machine learning

  • to solve your use case.

  • LAURENCE MORONEY: And the website you mentioned

  • is tensorflow.org.

  • KEMAL EL MOUJAHID: Tensorflow.org.

  • LAURENCE MORONEY: You should definitely go check it out.

  • KEMAL EL MOUJAHID: Yes, go check tensorflow.org.

  • LAURENCE MORONEY: Now, beyond then-- like,

  • being part of the community and learning,

  • then, there's taking the next step

  • and actually contributing back to the community.

  • And there's lots of great stuff going on there that you

  • spoke about in the keynote.

  • Could you give us a quick summary?

  • KEMAL EL MOUJAHID: Yes, so I would say the first thing to do

  • is to reach out to your local machine learning GD.

  • We have, I think, now 126 GDEs.

  • We really love our GDEs.

  • They're amazing.

  • And they've been organizing so much awesome things happening

  • in the community, one thing being the Doc sprints, which

  • is a new thing this year.

  • We've been hearing those amazing stories

  • of groups organizing to translate documents or update

  • documents for 2.0.

  • They're going through power outages

  • and staying there and just making sure

  • that they finish their Doc sprint,

  • actually translating documents on their phone.

  • LAURENCE MORONEY: Wow.

  • KEMAL EL MOUJAHID: So I mean, this is incredibly inspiring.

  • And we really want to support that.

  • So if-- something that I personally heard when I was

  • in Morocco--

  • like, where's the documentation in Arabic for TensorFlow?

  • Well, you know, if you're interested in translating

  • the documentation, whether it's Arabic

  • or another language that's not available,

  • then you can reach out.

  • And the GDEs can help you organize a Doc sprint.

  • LAURENCE MORONEY: All right.

  • Part of what's great about this is

  • that with TensorFlow generally being open source,

  • there's so many ways that someone can contribute,

  • right-- doc sprints that you've mentioned.

  • People can check-- they can check source

  • code into the product itself.

  • KEMAL EL MOUJAHID: Exactly.

  • LAURENCE MORONEY: There is, like,

  • being able to build models and distribute them

  • via things like TensorFlow Hub.

  • There's just so many ways, right?

  • KEMAL EL MOUJAHID: There's just so many ways.

  • And that's the beauty of open source.

  • And to facilitate contributing code,

  • we've created special interest groups, or SIGs,

  • which focus on specific parts of TensorFlow

  • that users might be more passionate about.

  • And so, we have 11 SIGs now, going from I/O networking

  • to specific languages like CARIS or Swift.

  • So that's one area.

  • Another really exciting way to contribute

  • is actually through competitions.

  • LAURENCE MORONEY: OK.

  • KEMAL EL MOUJAHID: And so, back in the Dev Summit in March,

  • we launched our 2.0 Hackathon on Devpost.

  • LAURENCE MORONEY: OK.

  • KEMAL EL MOUJAHID: And we've had some amazing contributions.

  • And for the grand prize winners, we

  • were going to fly them to TensorFlow World and host them.

  • And so, that's what we did.

  • And we had actually two recipients, Victor and Kyle.

  • LAURENCE MORONEY: OK

  • KEMAL EL MOUJAHID: Victor worked on hand track GIs.

  • And Kyle worked on embodied AI.

  • So it's really nice to see, you know,

  • all this contribution and all these projects

  • and to be able to host the winners here.

  • And one thing we heard--

  • I heard also in listening tour--

  • people were saying, oh, we missed it.

  • We really wanted to do this hackathon 2.0.

  • LAURENCE MORONEY: When's the next one?

  • KEMAL EL MOUJAHID: And we missed it.

  • Well, the next one just started, as you know.

  • And so, we just launched a new hackathon on Devpost.

  • And we are looking forward to see

  • what people are going to build.

  • LAURENCE MORONEY: And I think the one thing

  • is that I would encourage anybody to take part

  • in something like this.

  • You don't have to be an expert yet, right?

  • Get up to speed, learn these things, try out a hackathon.

  • Often, it's the most creative ideas,

  • as opposed to the most skilled people, that actually win.

  • I loved that hand-tracking one that you mentioned.

  • KEMAL EL MOUJAHID: Absolutely.

  • I think looking through what other people have built,

  • getting inspired by your own experience

  • and what you see around yourself and the problems

  • that you're passionate about, and then taking

  • a tool like TensorFlow, and with all the educational resources

  • that are available, is really the magic of the platform.

  • LAURENCE MORONEY: Right.

  • And so, if somebody wants to get started--

  • they've watched this video, they're excited to get involved

  • in some way or another--

  • where would you recommend that they go to check things out?

  • KEMAL EL MOUJAHID: tensorflow.org.

  • LAURENCE MORONEY: OK.

  • I knew you were going to say that.

  • KEMAL EL MOUJAHID: It all starts there.

  • Yes, tensorflow.org.

  • We really organize all the action items

  • that you could take.

  • What I would like to say is, really, there's

  • an ML revolution happening.

  • The community is growing.

  • Join the movement.

  • It doesn't matter whether, you know, you're an ML PhD

  • or you're just getting started or you're

  • a developer with an idea.

  • There's a lot to do for everyone.

  • The community is really growing.

  • So join the machine learning revolution with TensorFlow.

  • LAURENCE MORONEY: There's never been a better time.

  • KEMAL EL MOUJAHID: Never been a better time.

  • LAURENCE MORONEY: So thank you so much, Kemal.

  • And thanks, everybody, for watching this episode.

  • If you have any questions for me or if you

  • have any questions for Kemal, just

  • leave them in the comments below,

  • and we'll be sure to reach out.

  • Thanks again.

  • KEMAL EL MOUJAHID: Thank you.

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