Now use your host, Ryan.

Hello and welcome to Isles cast.

My name is Ryan, and today I'm speaking with shack er and isles test taker from Bangladesh Shack.

Er scored a band eight in the speaking section of his exam.

And he's been kind enough to be with me today and share a little bit about his experience and how he managed to score such a high mark.

So high shocker thinks and welcome to isles cast.

Hi, Ram.

How are you?

I'm good things.

It's nice to finally meet you.

We had a We had a few problems getting in touch.

But we finally made it thio together today.

Yes.

Yeah.

Finally I can hear you.

Okay.

S o shocker.

Why don't you just tell us a little bit about yourself?

Tell us about where you're from, where you took the examination and why you took the examination.

Well, I'm sorry, Mama.

Can I live in Bangladesh and my status school Select.

I took us at some s so that I can take my master's in Canada because that's where my elder brother stays.

So I did my better business administration from American International University that's situated on the capital of Bangladesh.

I did, Bebe, That is better for business administration on the last year.

And now I don't want to pursue my master's in Canada, as I said.

So that's why I took my house at some and my requirement That was 6.5.

And thankfully, I met it.

Ah.

So that's why I took that sex.

I'm actually tow rope.

A prudent person.

Master Stevie.

Ok, terrific.

So So you did your studies in Dhaka.

Is that right?

Yes, Exactly.

Okay.

And you took your eyelids in Dhaka, right?

Sorry.

Sorry.

Sorry.

I took my sincere, actually, in my native town, actually.

Oh, I see.

Okay, so you took the examination.

There s you score, band aid and speaking.

And you have intentions to go to Canada to study and whereabouts in Canada.

Are you planning to study?

I'm planning to study in University of British Columbia or Simon Fraser University ports, but some located at encore.

Wonderful.

Very nice.

Yeah.

Thank you, ma'am.

Okay, now let's get into the interview itself.

So we know a bit about your background.

Um, you took the exam recently.

You scored band eight and speaking.

What did you do in your preparation that you feel led you to be able to score Band Aid?

Well, I tell you, I wanted to school as high as possible.

That that was my ambition.

So I started talking in English on last couple of years with my friends and families and a few other colleagues also.

So I started speaking English because I knew that it was my ambition for for such a long time toe pursue my for personal foreign degree from Canada.

So I took preparation by talking English wit, as I said, with my friends, colleagues and family members for last four or five years, And, uh then I Then I went into YouTube, and if some other websites and I I traced down, all die speaking our techniques, which can be handy for me.

So I traced down all of those and I tried to practice those by sitting at home, actually, So it sounds as though, um half of your studying was done with others, and half of your study was done independently.

Would you say that's accurate?

Exactly.

Okay, so now let's talk a little bit Maurin detail about the speaking that you did with friends.

So can you give us a bit of background?

Maybe give us a bit of background about Bangladesh, or are there lots of English speakers there or not?

So many, or, actually they're very few are English speakers, but I did.

I did my undergrad from American International University.

So there I found few good friends who would like to talk in English.

And I found the foreign friend was from Denmark, I think, and I used to talk with him in English a lot, and so that that really improved my skill.

And I feel very good because I think just by practicing English, it really enhanced my skill in talking and chili.

Okay, I see.

What sort of training did you did you do with your friends?

Was it just sort of chit chatter or did you guys have some specific goals to the speaking you were doing together?

It was a concert, Just training or just a teacher is saved.

Yeah, that's exactly like that.

Because I knew that in my future I have to talk in English a lot so on And I really find interesting to drop in English, so actually quite friendly.

All through my life I talked in my native language.

So on last couple of years, I d I talked.

I practiced English a lot with whatever person I can I can I really in front of me.

So I talked with them a lot.

So with friends like to talk with them, they're putting in English, actually encourage them to talk with me in English so that, you know, they can also get benefit out of it.

I see.

I see.

So now let's talk a bit about the independent side of your studying.

So you mentioned that you used websites toe learn speaking techniques.

Can you tell us which websites those were and what the techniques were?

Well, actually, I went into your group and I typed English speaking this sort of key words.

I typed over there and I found a lot off nice videos over there, so I don't wrote it for a few of them and from there on.

I learned some tricks and picks like, How can I get good schools in the house is speaking like in as there are two purse fastest introductory part 2nd 1 is topic or Q curd, and last one is that analytical part.

So I learned a lot of techniques over that before, before browsing into you to actually, I had no idea what what what can be the upcoming questions or the scenario they speaking test over?

I said some, but also yeah, so from YouTube, I I learned a lot from some random beauteous.

I have to admit that, and also at the same time, I purchase some books from my locality in Dhaka, Are you, by the way, I lived in Dakar for last five years, and now I'm in my native town, actually.

So due to my educational prefers, I was intact.

So from their own, I purchase some high quality boots for speaking test.

So I followed goes as much as I can, but I have to admit Dr your website, I mean, it's several us.

It's called the little bit of it as Castor come.

Actually, I don't know, I quite honestly actually I was browsing around in eternity and suddenly through any Well, I found your link and I just clicked over there.

I have found I 18 or 19.

What?

Your clips over there.

So I just downloaded all of those and that those nineties helped me totally right All through my house preparation not only sticking also in reading, writing and listening also.

So your website ask us to come also helped me a lot.

I have to admit that.

And so actually, basically, I have to say that true you to some good books.

Office speaking, your blocks.

And also there were a few other websites I can't recall at this moment.

I want to overdoes, I think another upset, Maybe I can't recall it.

Feel it this long answer for that.

But yeah, those few of us were really handy.

I have to.

I appreciate all of those.

Okay.

Do you remember any of these specific techniques that you learned from those websites?

So I don't know if if they focused on linking your sentences together or if they focused on training you to speak at length, can you recall any of the specific techniques that she learned it at those websites.

Definitely.

I would love to share some handle tricks that I've learned from all those sources.

1st 1 I have to admit that I have seen somewhere that while talking with Examiner, I have to keep a keep and eye contact with.

We take some enough.

That's one thing number then.

Another thing is that in the our topic, Kurt section, that is that is called a second part.

I had to keep on talking until they examine any stops me.

That's another technique I can recall.

Then, in the analytical part, I have to keep down, sir, by using all my intelligence and all my capability to keep most sensible and sell it as much as possible.

Well, another technique is that it?

That was very crucial taking.

I have to admit that topic card section that should be no stopping from my corner.

That's one thing I've learned, and another part is that I have to keep detailed answer off off both the second and third part.

That's what I've learned from them.

And also I can recall that I have to, uh I mean, I have to be confident in front of the examiner so that I don't I feel myself a CZ, you know, a school as good and as cheerful on that examination hall s O.

That zone is for my benefit.

And another thing is that I should not get panic.

If I can't understand anything properly, there's another trick.

And then I also have toe.

I mean, I'm so deliberately.

Yeah.

So if you're taking some also there, So basically, in speaking test room, I have to be very much relaxed.

And one more technique is it is that I have to be very much, I mean, friendly with them.

Examiner, I think that this sort of techniques have learned from those sources Chili.

Okay, great.

That several very good tips there.

Now, you mentioned the importance of presenting yourself with confidence.

What are some of the strategies?

May be that the mind tricks that you use to to make yourself feel confident in a situation where you might feel nervous.

Okay, right before my my examination.

In speaking, I have drank a glass of water.

That's what I can record.

Okay.

And I strongly believed in myself that I will be able to get the maximum out of it.

I believed in myself is strong that I had this very strong from belief that okay, I will do my best on this is speaking, Burke, Uh, that was my one strategy.

And another thing is that I was mentally prepared That I know some summons us may not be good, but I have to I have to act like it's nothing.

So this sort of mental mentality I groom adopted within myself?

Uh, just by using mental power chili.

Okay.

Okay.

Terrific.

Now, did you do any mock test?

A CZ for a speaking is concerned before.

Yeah, I did a few informal mock tests.

Actually, I want my friend usedto live with me.

I told him to take an interview up as a speaking test.

I I gave, I gave him If you are a few questions for class and he took an informal interview off, he took a couple of interviews.

Okay, so it sounds like you guys did Did some role playing.

Yeah.

Exactly.

And And you said that you recorded this?

Yes.

Yes, yes.

And so were you recording it a video or was it recorded audio I actually recorded through video, actually threw a cell phone.

So now let's talk about that for a second because you're the first student to share the specific technique with me.

I've heard of students that recording the audio and listen to the audio.

The video is important, though, as you pointed out, because you point out that it's important to have eye contact with your examiner.

So you seem to stress the importance of presentation.

So when you saw yourself in the video in those practice videos, what were some of the things as faras body language is concerned as faras, the image of confidence is concerned.

What were some of the things that that you changed when you after you watch the video?

Well, actually, it is very important to have an eye contact because if I don't have any eye contact, it indicates that I'm feeling shy or I'm not feeling comfortable in front of examine.

It indicates that it actually I learned that in my university life, one of my teacher at best meet this while I was really presentation at the time.

So yeah, I mean, I contact is very important, and confidence is also another vital issue.

Well, actually ran.

I just missed the point.

What have you are still chilly?

No, I was just asking when you saw yourself in the video.

Was there anything regarding your your body language that you wanted to change?

Well, did you know recording is very, very crucial?

Because because, you know, through the video, I can see that.

How do we look?

Like, How does how will I appear in front of the Examiner?

Doesn't very significant in the indication, actually.

So while in the video recording, I can see that my body get by my body Guests I not sterile.

Chill.

I can preserve that.

My body is not a stable is moving around, so I can I can rectify that toe watching that when I did it, you did actually, on some of the things like my how do I contact with the Examiner?

How my lips and the body actually x at the time I can I also of those, actually try toe be much smarter?

Okay, that's interesting at you.

That's a very interesting tip that I hadn't heard before.

And I think that's a very valid to focus on the image, the complete image that you're presenting, the way that you look the way that you act, the way that you're moving your head, the eye contact, all of that, I think is very important.