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  • all right.

  • Before we get started, I just want to say that it feels great to be back.

  • This is now our fourth year at Complex Con in Long Beach.

  • Go ahead, let it go on.

  • It means so much to us that you guys line up and fill up this room year after year.

  • So before he gets started, make another another round of applause for yourself.

  • Let's make some noise, All right.

  • Our guest today is in the middle of one of the hottest runs and hip hop.

  • More than 20 songs or features on the Billboard charts this year as well is the debut release of his studio album, Kirk, which, as you would guess, debuted at number one.

  • Everybody make some noise for the baby.

  • What's up, dude?

  • I'll be on this side.

  • You'll be on this side.

  • You ready to go, baby on, baby.

  • On these wings.

  • All right, all right.

  • So we'll start here at the handle.

  • I got one question.

  • Well, you know, it gets ah gets little spicy over here.

  • Milko, help Cut the heat.

  • I've noticed that you have already set a bowl of ice cream.

  • You're prepared today like I said.

  • All right, we'll start at the handle and we'll go with the Classic.

  • So one of my favorite things about your music and it's got the attention of lots of music critics.

  • But it's like when the beat starts, you'll begin wrapping almost immediately for Start.

  • Do you?

  • Do you study streaming analytics or think about how much time you have to grab someone's attention?

  • Or is that just instinct is really just instinct, even though the attention span is real short.

  • Like when I was long start, I want to grab it immediately.

  • You know, I do the same thing.

  • Great.

  • You just go.

  • And then no one's had a better year and guest features than you.

  • From Liz Oto Mega Stallion Toe Little Nas Ex.

  • How much has your guest feature rate increased the top of 2018 until now, she I want to give away too much information.

  • Let's just say, you know, tremendous tremendous experts exponentially.

  • Yes, And then what do you think is the highlight of your mixtape era?

  • Like if someone's a fan of baby on Baby or Kirk, what mixtape would you suggest?

  • They go back into the archives to get a good idea of where you came from.

  • Um, I will goto project title.

  • Guys work.

  • Guys would.

  • All right.

  • Well, you heard it.

  • Here.

  • First.

  • Go check out God's work.

  • But first things first.

  • More death wings.

  • Let's move on.

  • So you're live shows like totally insane.

  • And I saw this instagram post that you put up recently where literally looked like two fans were having sex while you're performing.

  • Should when you think back on your most recent tour thinking about the times you've looked out into the crowd, What's one of the more bizarre things you've seen to fans out of six?

  • And then you have this habit of jumping out into the crowd?

  • I do.

  • When's the last time that backfired on you yesterday.

  • What happened?

  • Yes, my half as security go up.

  • Big security guards, By the way, some of the biggest humans I've ever seen in my life he let my legs go teeth.

  • Soon I wasn't ready to jump.

  • So I feel trials and tribulations that the trials and tribulations That is what I signed up for this.

  • All right.

  • Are you ready to move on to the next wig?

  • That last one was about to.

  • Well, it might be a long might be a long day here.

  • All right, so this one, we have the pineapple habanero in the three spot.

  • I saw you on your instagram before we started backstage.

  • We gas wings, I think you heard me.

  • That was cool.

  • You show me.

  • Not yet.

  • So in addition to being a prolific emcee, you're also one of hip hop's best marketers.

  • So what I want to do is bounce a few unconventional chess moves that certain artists have pulled over the years on.

  • I'm just curious about your take on them whether they fit into the baby school of guerrilla marketing.

  • Okay, Justin Bieber promising to release an album before Christmas if one of his instagram post gets 20 million likes, why do you think that works?

  • I mean is, you know, you're asking for engagement from your fans and get them involved.

  • It's set in the championship.

  • You just get people talking about the same time.

  • And, man, you know, if you cause enough engagement if they stamp in enough to get the release music to make Already eight and 20 what about 50 cent promising to retire from rap if Kanye West graduation outsold Curtis like, do you remember that they were like that was over of Rolling Stone.

  • It was very heavy Weight.

  • Boxing match?

  • Yeah.

  • What'd you think of that?

  • I like I like I like, you know, it keeps the competition.

  • But then the funny thing about it is graduation did outsell goodness.

  • And then on the obvious, nobody said he should go on Hello.

  • And then what about Ah, Snoop dog Changing his name to Snoop Lion?

  • Or you see that a lot with rappers and even you've done it before.

  • I don't think it affects your ability to be successful if you know how to navigate through it.

  • And then everyone in the world Justice Hart with name changes you.

  • How you doing?

  • All right.

  • With that in mind, are you ready to move on?

  • Number four, Lemon Pip.

  • So I want to take a wing to talk about your music videos which have really separated you from the pack and I think remind me and a lot of fans of this golden era in rap videos that were super funny, like videos from Eminem or Busta Rhymes.

  • How did you build out the treatment for Walker, Texas Ranger, because that's such an interesting reference point for someone under the age of 40 years old.

  • Exactly.

  • That's why I mean, I saw it before from my mom watching, You know what I mean?

  • So I'm just like I should play Walker, Texas Ranger.

  • And I just made a reference to a walker.

  • Texas Ranger in the song, of course, ended up naming the song that way.

  • Just tapped into it with the video tap into the character.

  • So you know it.

  • Don't surprise me at our people gravitated toward Especially like, you know, people who are 40 and over.

  • All right, Are you ready to move on to the halfway mark here?

  • Five spot.

  • We have the headless horse radish from torchbearer.

  • Is it?

  • Like I got mail in fairly shares Mayo free.

  • They've got a look at those ingredients, baby.

  • No e mail.

  • But this definitely is.

  • Ah, a turning point of sorts.

  • All right, The baby.

  • We have a recurring segment on our show called Explain That Graham Burrito A deep dive on our guest Instagram pull interesting pictures that need more context.

  • And I love doing it here.

  • It complex con because we have monitors galore.

  • So let's put up the first instagram picture.

  • You just tell us the back story.

  • It's Becky on that gang.

  • Shit.

  • You must have hundreds of fan interactions every single day.

  • Why did this one stand out?

  • Those running on Beckett was most definitely on that gang.

  • Shit Way was coming out of a restaurant, and I don't know.

  • I think I was just taking pictures, period.

  • I was thinking, like maybe on top of the car.

  • No, it's an anger shaped money out.

  • And I noticed the lady taking a picture of him, and I said, Well, come take it with me And that's order to put a foes a machine.

  • She did it.

  • Shut out the big on.

  • Then a lot of people was comment.

  • I think she's like a math teacher.

  • Really?

  • Well, now the coolest teacher and I gotta be the coolest teacher.

  • Last one.

  • Well, I watched my language because I see a few you don't have don't have to listen Here we are serving some of the hottest wings in the world.

  • If you have to say it, you can say it.

  • Don't worry.

  • Don't worry about it.

  • It's too hot.

  • Well, I have bad news for you.

  • It only gets harder from here.

  • And this one is the adobo loco.

  • Fire!

  • Fire!

  • Fire!

  • Fire!

  • I wasn't playing either when I just moved in one bite.

  • So one thread that I get from your music is this feeling of being underestimated.

  • And I'm talking in particular.

  • I love it.

  • And I'm talking to a particular being underestimated, not the wing.

  • And because you have this great line on the Dream Ville album where you say I just put diamonds on all of my teeth Now they probably think I'm not intelligent.

  • Do you remember when you started to feel that way?

  • Like, is that a feeling that you had as a kid or something that you developed is he started working your way through the record industry?

  • Wait, Go back to the ice cream is way, way?

  • Definitely.

  • Um good.

  • Yeah, definitely.

  • You know, I always felt underestimated.

  • You know, I feel like everybody should and get you going.

  • Motivation That chip on your shoulder.

  • Pass it to me.

  • Well, you know what?

  • A man who feels underestimated like it's him against the world.

  • It's just you two baby versus Four Maur.

  • Scorching hot chicken.

  • This is the part right here.

  • Right over the audience.

  • That's what they came here for.

  • Where's Dom?

  • This is a logistical complication.

  • Here.

  • Dump.

  • Let's make some noise for some hero hot ones.

  • She said, Give us All right.

  • Seven spot alchemy.

  • So I don't got no ransom, No blue cheese way.

  • Got the ice cream.

  • Okay.

  • Fuck it.

  • You're hot.

  • What's the back story on recording?

  • Should I read that?

  • He recorded that in, like, 20 minutes after checking your bank balance.

  • When you signed your record deal.

  • That's the back story.

  • I got it all figured out.

  • I take my cap pulled up, talk about it.

  • What's the most valuable thing you think you've left for your fans?

  • You know, I've seen videos of you at rolling loud throwing bags.

  • We'd I've seen you leave bags of clothing behind.

  • I think we fake.

  • We'd bake weed.

  • I've seen you earlier.

  • Snags.

  • It was rabbit food, rabbit food.

  • We'll talk about that later.

  • I want to give away your hustle.

  • I don't care what he thinks.

  • The most valuable thing you've gifted to your fans.

  • Knowledge.

  • Cool.

  • I was going with a good one.

  • All right.

  • Well, can I quit?

  • We're almost there.

  • This is the bomb beyond any That burgundy shit.

  • That's the color of this one.

  • That's the one that did me in, huh?

  • So everyone knows that you represent Charlotte.

  • You're always putting on for North Carolina.

  • So here have some questions about the Tar Heel State thing that I think you're perfect Answer.

  • Which is the prouder culinary export of North Carolina?

  • Is that Bo jangles Famous chicken and biscuits or the Krispy Kreme doughnut?

  • Krispy Kreme with the high sign off show.

  • If you see that hot sun, you have to pull over, right?

  • Not easy for me, either.

  • We're in this.

  • Who's your favorite Charlotte Hornet of all time?

  • Is it?

  • Rex Chapman?

  • Larry Johnson.

  • Alonzo Mourning.

  • Muggsy Bogues Probably got Toby's.

  • Oh, man.

  • Alonzo Mourning Starting my boy Kimber.

  • Welcome to do you fuck with cheer wine.

  • I don't really drink soda.

  • It's that cherry soda that North Carolina is famous for, right?

  • Yeah.

  • Chair one.

  • Good.

  • When I did like soda on and off, that was definitely one of but that last shit.

  • Listen, we're approaching the finish line.

  • Let's make some thing probably think people be up here acting like this, right?

  • But tell him it's not.

  • There's nothing phony about I don't even drink.