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So, there's about seven and a half billion of us.
譯者: Lo Hsien Huang 審譯者: Helen Chang
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The World Health Organization tells us that 300 million of us are depressed,
世界上大約有七十五億人口
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and about 800,000 people take their lives every year.
世界衛生組織告訴我們 有三億人有憂鬱症
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A tiny subset of them choose a profoundly nihilistic route,
而且每年有八十萬人自殺
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which is they die in the act of killing as many people as possible.
當中一小群人採取 一種極端虛無主義的路線
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These are some famous recent examples.
就是他們死的時候 也要盡可能殺死愈多人愈好
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And here's a less famous one. It happened about nine weeks ago.
這些是近期知名的案子
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If you don't remember it,
這個案子則比較少人知道 它發生在九個星期前
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it's because there's a lot of this going on.
如果你不記得它
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Wikipedia just last year counted 323 mass shootings
那是因為很多類似的事不斷上演
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in my home country, the United States.
根據維基百科,光是去年 就有 323 起大規模槍擊事件
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Not all of those shooters were suicidal,
發生在我的祖國:美國
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not all of them were maximizing their death tolls,
並非所有兇手都有自殺傾向
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but many, many were.
並非所有兇手都想 把死亡人數衝到最高
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An important question becomes: What limits do these people have?
但許多兇手的確是如此
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Take the Vegas shooter.
關鍵的問題變成是: 這些兇手殺人有沒有限度?
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He slaughtered 58 people.
比如,拉斯維加斯槍擊案兇手
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Did he stop there because he'd had enough?
他屠殺了 58 人
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No, and we know this because he shot and injured another 422 people
他停下來,是因為殺夠了嗎?
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who he surely would have preferred to kill.
我們知道不是如此 因為他還射傷另外 422 人
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We have no reason to think he would have stopped at 4,200.
他當時肯定想殺掉這些人
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In fact, with somebody this nihilistic, he may well have gladly killed us all.
我們沒理由認為 他會在殺了 4200 人時停手
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We don't know.
事實上,這麼虛無主義的人 他可能很樂意殺光我們
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What we do know is this:
我們不知道
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when suicidal murderers really go all in,
我們確實知道一點:
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technology is the force multiplier.
有自殺傾向的兇手賭上一切時
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Here's an example.
科技加強了殺傷力
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Several years back, there was a rash of 10 mass school attacks in China
這裡有個案例
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carried out with things like knives and hammers and cleavers,
幾年前,中國爆發了一連串 共十起大規模學校攻擊事件
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because guns are really hard to get there.
武器包括刀子、鐵槌、切肉刀
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By macabre coincidence, this last attack occurred
因為在中國很難取得槍枝
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just hours before the massacre in Newtown, Connecticut.
恐怖的巧合是 最後一次攻擊的發生時間
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But that one American attack killed roughly the same number of victims
只比康乃狄克州紐敦大屠殺早幾小時
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as the 10 Chinese attacks combined.
但這場美國攻擊事件的受害人數
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So we can fairly say, knife: terrible; gun: way worse.
大約等同那十起中國攻擊事件 受害人數的加總
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And airplane: massively worse,
所以,我們可以公平地說 刀子:很可怕;槍枝:更糟糕
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as pilot Andreas Lubitz showed when he forced 149 people
飛機:糟糕透頂了
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to join him in his suicide,
因為飛行員安德烈亞斯·盧比茨 證明了他可以強迫 149 個人
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smashing a plane into the French Alps.
陪他一起自殺
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And there are other examples of this.
將一架飛機開去撞法國阿爾卑斯山
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And I'm afraid there are far more deadly weapons in our near future than airplanes,
還有像這樣的其他案例
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ones not made of metal.
我擔心不久的將來 還會出現比飛機更致命的武器
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So let's consider the apocalyptic dynamics that will ensue
不是用金屬做的
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if suicidal mass murder hitches a ride on a rapidly advancing field
我們來想一下 如果有自殺傾向的兇手
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that for the most part holds boundless promise for society.
利用一個快速進步的科技 會造成什麼樣的大災難
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Somewhere out there in the world, there's a tiny group of people
而且這個科技還為社會帶來無限前景
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who would attempt, however ineptly,
在世界的某處有一小群人
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to kill us all if they could just figure out how.
不論做法多笨拙,也會嘗試
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The Vegas shooter may or may not have been one of them,
殺光我們所有人 只要他們想出辦法來
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but with seven and a half billion of us,
拉斯維加斯槍擊案兇手 可能是這種人,也可能不是
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this is a nonzero population.
但世界上有七十五億人
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There's plenty of suicidal nihilists out there.
絕對會有這種人存在
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We've already seen that.
外面有不少自殺傾向的虛無主義者
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There's people with severe mood disorders that they can't even control.
我們已經看過了
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There are people who have just suffered deranging traumas, etc. etc.
有些人具有嚴重的情緒失調 他們自己甚至無法控制
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As for the corollary group,
也有人受到精神上的創傷等等
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its size was simply zero forever until the Cold War,
這類的人
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when suddenly, the leaders of two global alliances
在冷戰時期前,人數始終是零
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attained the ability to blow up the world.
突然間,世界兩大聯盟的領導人
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The number of people with actual doomsday buttons
擁有可以炸掉全世界的能力
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has stayed fairly stable since then.
從那之後,擁有末日按鈕的人數
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But I'm afraid it's about to grow,
就一直維持不變
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and not just to three.
但我擔心這個人數要開始成長了
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This is going off the charts.
而且不只從兩人變成三人
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I mean, it's going to look like a tech business plan.
這人數將會爆表
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(Laughter)
看起來像科技公司的商業計畫一樣
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And the reason is,
(笑聲)
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we're in the era of exponential technologies,
而且理由是
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which routinely take eternal impossibilities
我們身處在指數成長的科技時代
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and make them the actual superpowers of one or two living geniuses
這個時代會一直挑戰永遠不可能的事
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and -- this is the big part --
然後把這些事轉變成天才般的超能力
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then diffuse those powers to more or less everybody.
而且,重點是:
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Now, here's a benign example.
接著會將那些超能力 普及到每個人身上
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If you wanted to play checkers with a computer in 1952,
舉一個無害的例子
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you literally had to be that guy,
在 1952 年,如果你想要 用電腦玩西洋跳棋
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then commandeer one of the world's 19 copies of that computer,
你就一定得是那個傢伙
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then used your Nobel-adjacent brain to teach it checkers.
然後一定要使用那種電腦 而世界上僅有十九台
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That was the bar.
再用你聰明絕頂的大腦來教它下棋
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Today, you just need to know someone who knows someone who owns a telephone,
你要面對這些限制
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because computing is an exponential technology.
現今,你只需要認識某個人 而他又認識有手機的人即可
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So is synthetic biology,
因為運算是一種指數成長的科技
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which I'll now refer to as "synbio."
合成生物學也是如此
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And in 2011, a couple of researchers did something every bit as ingenious
接下來我會簡稱為「合生學」
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and unprecedented as the checkers trick
2011 年,幾位研究員 做了一件事情
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with H5N1 flu.
和西洋跳棋的把戲一樣巧妙且空前
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This is a strain that kills up to 60 percent of the people it infects,
但應用在 H5N1 流感上
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more than Ebola.
被這類病毒感染的人 高達六成會死亡
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But it is so uncontagious
致死率比伊波拉還高
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that it's killed fewer than 50 people since 2015.
但它的傳染性不強
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So these researchers edited H5N1's genome
所以從 2015 年之後 死亡人數不到五十個
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and made it every bit as deadly, but also wildly contagious.
這些研究員編輯 H5N1 基因組
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The news arm of one of the world's top two scientific journals
讓它維持原本的致命性 還能廣泛傳染
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said if this thing got out, it would likely cause a pandemic
世界前兩大科學期刊之一的 新聞部門指出
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with perhaps millions of deaths.
如果這東西流出去 會造成一場大規模流行病疫情
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And Dr. Paul Keim said
可能會有數百萬人死亡
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he could not think of an organism as scary as this,
保羅‧克伊姆博士說
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which is the last thing I personally want to hear
他想不出比這更可怕的有機體
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from the Chairman of the National Science Advisory Board on Biosecurity.
我最不想從國家生物安全科學 顧問委員會主席口中聽到這話
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And by the way, Dr. Keim also said this --
順便一提,克伊姆博士也說過—— 【我不認為炭疽比這更可怕】
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["I don't think anthrax is scary at all compared to this."]
而他也是一位炭疽專家 【我不認為炭疽比這更可怕】
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And he's also one of these.
(笑聲)
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[Anthrax expert] (Laughter)
在 2011 年有關生物駭客的好消息是
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Now, the good news about the 2011 biohack
做這件事的人並不是為了傷害我們
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is that the people who did it didn't mean us any harm.
他們是病毒學家
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They're virologists.
他們相信自己將科學向前推進
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They believed they were advancing science.
壞消息是,這項科技 並沒有適時停下來
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The bad news is that technology does not freeze in place,
而且接下來幾十年
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and over the next few decades,
一般人要做到他們的壯舉 會變得輕而易舉
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their feat will become trivially easy.
事實上,現在就已經容易許多了 因為昨天早上我們得知
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In fact, it's already way easier, because as we learned yesterday morning,
在他們研究兩年後
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just two years after they did their work,
CRISPR 系統就被用來 做基因組編輯
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the CRISPR system was harnessed for genome editing.
這是一項根本性的突破
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This was a radical breakthrough
讓基因編輯變得簡單許多
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that makes gene editing massively easier --
簡單到現在連高中都在教 CRISPR 了
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so easy that CRISPR is now taught in high schools.
這東西的進展速度比電腦運算更快
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And this stuff is moving quicker than computing.
上面那條緩慢下降的白線是什麼?
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That slow, stodgy white line up there?
那是摩爾定律
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That's Moore's law.
它代表電腦運算成本下降有多快
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That shows us how quickly computing is getting cheaper.
而那條誇張陡峭的綠線
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That steep, crazy-fun green line,
代表基因定序成本下降有多快
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that shows us how quickly genetic sequencing is getting cheaper.
基因編輯、合成和定序
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Now, gene editing and synthesis and sequencing,
它們是不同的學科,但它們息息相關
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they're different disciplines, but they're tightly related.
它們都以驚人的速度在發展
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And they're all moving in these headlong rates.
進入這個王國的鑰匙 就是這些極小的資料檔案
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And the keys to the kingdom are these tiny, tiny data files.
這是 H5N1 基因組當中的一段
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That is an excerpt of H5N1's genome.
整個基因組的長度大概會佔幾張頁面
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The whole thing can fit on just a few pages.
別擔心,你回家就可以趕快搜尋一下
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And yeah, don't worry, you can Google this as soon as you get home.
網路上到處都有,對吧?
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It's all over the internet, right?
讓它變成有傳染性的那一部分
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And the part that made it contagious
可以放進一張便利貼
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could well fit on a single Post-it note.
只要有位天才做出一個資料檔案
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And once a genius makes a data file,
任何白痴都能複製它
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any idiot can copy it,
將它發佈到全世界
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distribute it worldwide
或把它列印出來
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or print it.
我指的不僅是印在這上面
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And I don't just mean print it on this,
不用多久,也可以印在這上面
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but soon enough, on this.
我們來假想一個情境
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So let's imagine a scenario.
比如 2026 年,隨便挑一年
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Let's say it's 2026, to pick an arbitrary year,
一位優秀的病毒學家希望科學再進步
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and a brilliant virologist, hoping to advance science
為了進一步暸解流行病
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and better understand pandemics,
因此設計了一種新的病菌
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designs a new bug.
它的傳染性不輸給水痘
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It's as contagious as chicken pox,
致命程度和伊波拉一樣
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it's as deadly as Ebola,
它醞釀數個月才會爆發
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and it incubates for months and months before causing an outbreak,
所以,發現任何危險徵兆前 全世界可能已經被感染了
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so the whole world can be infected before the first sign of trouble.
然後,她的大學被駭客入侵
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Then, her university gets hacked.
當然,這不是科幻小說
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And of course, this is not science fiction.
事實上,美國最近有份起訴書
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In fact, just one recent US indictment
記載超過三百間大學被駭客侵入
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documents the hacking of over 300 universities.
附帶病菌基因組的檔案 便散播到網路的黑暗角落
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So that file with the bug's genome on it spreads to the internet's dark corners.
一旦檔案流出去,就再也回不來了
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And once a file is out there, it never comes back --
去問電影或唱片公司的人 他們知道這種事
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just ask anybody who runs a movie studio or a music label.
也許在 2026 年
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So now maybe in 2026,
要像病毒學家這樣的天才
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it would take a true genius like our virologist
才能製造出活生生的異常生物
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to make the actual living critter,
但十五年之後
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but 15 years later,
可能只要使用任何高中都有的 DNA 列印機就可以辦到
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it may just take a DNA printer you can find at any high school.
如果不是這樣?
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And if not?
再過幾十年後仍然會成真
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Give it a couple of decades.
讓我打個岔
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So, a quick aside:
記得這張投影片嗎?
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Remember this slide here?
把注意力放在這兩個字上面:
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Turn your attention to these two words.
【或許】
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If somebody tries this and is only 0.1 percent effective,
如果有人試圖利用這種方式殺人 儘管成功機率只有 0.1%
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eight million people die.
就有八百萬人會死亡
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That's 2,500 9/11s.
等同九一一事件發生兩千五百次
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Civilization would survive,
文明會存活下來
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but it would be permanently disfigured.
但它會受到永久性傷害
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So this means we need to be concerned about anybody
這就表示我們得要擔心
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who has the faintest shot on goal,
任何有一丁點機會 達成這個目標的人
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not just geniuses.
不能只擔心那些天才
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So today, there's a tiny handful of geniuses
現今,只有一小群天才
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who probably could make a doomsday bug
才有可能做出末日病菌
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that's .1-percent effective and maybe even a little bit more.
那大概是 0.1% 的成功機率 或稍微高一點
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They tend to be stable and successful and so not part of this group.
這些通常是穩定且成功的人
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So I guess I'm sorta kinda barely OK-ish with that.
所以不屬於這個族群 【想殺光所有人的一群人】
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But what about after technology improves
所以我還勉強可以接受 【想殺光所有人的一群人】
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and diffuses
但是如果科技進步了
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and thousands of life science grad students are enabled?
而且普及了
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Are every single one of them going to be perfectly stable?
數千名生命科學研究生 都能夠做得到呢?
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Or how about a few years after that,
但是每一個研究生都很穩定嗎?
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where every stress-ridden premed is fully enabled?
如果再過個幾年
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At some point in that time frame,
每個壓力大的醫學院預科生 也都能做到呢?
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these circles are going to intersect,
到時候,某個時間點
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because we're now starting to talk about hundreds of thousands of people
這些圓圈將會有交集
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throughout the world.
因為我們在談的是全世界數十萬人
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And they recently included that guy who dressed up like the Joker
最近,這類人當中 有一位穿著像是小丑
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and shot 12 people to death at a Batman premiere.
在蝙蝠俠首映會上射殺了十二個人
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That was a neuroscience PhD student
他是一位神經科學博士生
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with an NIH grant.
拿了國家衛生研究院的獎助金
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OK, plot twist:
好吧,劇情有所翻轉了:
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I think we can actually survive this one if we start focusing on it now.
如果我們現在開始重視這個問題 是有機會安全度過
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And I say this, having spent countless hours
我會這麼說,而且已經花了無數小時
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interviewing global leaders in synbio
訪問全世界的合生學領導人
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and also researching their work for science podcasts I create.
為了我所創立的播客節目 我也去研究他們的成果
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I have come to fear their work, in case I haven't gotten that out there yet --
我開始對研究成果感到擔憂 即便我還沒完全弄懂
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(Laughter)
(笑聲)
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but more than that, to revere its potential.
但不只如此,我更敬畏它的潛力。
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This stuff will cure cancer, heal our environment
這些研究可以治療癌症 改善我們的環境
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and stop our cruel treatment of other creatures.
阻止我們用殘酷的方式對待其他生物
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So how do we get all this without, you know, annihilating ourselves?
我們要如何做到這些成果 同時不要毀滅我們自己?
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First thing: like it or not, synbio is here,
首先:不論你們喜不喜歡 合生學的時代來臨了
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so let's embrace the technology.
所以,我們就擁抱這項科技吧
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If we do a tech ban,
如果我們頒佈科技禁令
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that would only hand the wheel to bad actors.
那只會把掌控權交到壞人手上
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Unlike nuclear programs,
這不像核能計畫
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biology can be practiced invisibly.
生物學可以用看不見的方式進行
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Massive Soviet cheating on bioweapons treaties
蘇聯大量違反生化武器協定 就是很好的證明
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made that very clear, as does every illegal drug lab in the world.
其他的例子還有 世界各地的非法藥品實驗室
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Secondly, enlist the experts.
第二,召募專家
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Let's sign them up and make more of them.
把他們簽下來,愈多愈好
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For every million and one bioengineers we have,
每一百萬零一名生物工程師當中
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at least a million of them are going to be on our side.
至少一百萬名是站在我們這邊的
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I mean, Al Capone would be on our side in this one.
這件事上,連黑幫老大 也會站在我們這邊
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The bar to being a good guy is just so low.
成為好人的標準非常低
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And massive numerical advantages do matter,
在人數上有大量優勢還是很重要
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even when a single bad guy can inflict grievous harm,
即使是只有一個壞蛋 造成巨大傷害的情況下
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because among many other things,
因為其中一個好處
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they allow us to exploit the hell out of this:
就是使我們能夠利用這點:
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we have years and hopefully decades to prepare and prevent.
我們還有數年,希望有數十年 可以做好準備和預防
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The first person to try something awful -- and there will be somebody --
第一個嘗試去做恐怖事的人 將來會做這件事的人
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may not even be born yet.
可能還沒出生
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Next, this needs to be an effort that spans society,
接著,整個社會要一同努力
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and all of you need to be a part of it,
所有人必須要參與
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because we cannot ask a tiny group of experts
因為我們不能要求一小群專家
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to be responsible for both containing and exploiting synthetic biology,
既要負責遏制合成生物學 又要利用合成生物學
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because we already tried that with the financial system,
因為我們對金融體制試過這個做法
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and our stewards became massively corrupted
我們的財務管理者變得非常腐敗
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as they figured out how they could cut corners,
他們想出走捷徑的方式
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inflict massive, massive risks on the rest of us
讓我們其他人承受非常大的風險
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and privatize the gains,
並將利益放進自己的口袋裡
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becoming repulsively wealthy
用令人反感的手段致富
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while they stuck us with the $22 trillion bill.
同時丟給我們 一張 22 兆美元的帳單
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And more recently --
更近期——
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(Applause)
(掌聲)
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Are you the ones who have gotten the thank-you letters?
你們是有收到感謝信的人嗎? 我還在等我的信
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I'm still waiting for mine.
我覺得他們是太忙所以沒空感恩
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I just figured they were too busy to be grateful.
再更近期